(Poll) Would you want a Spyderco neck knife?

Discuss Spyderco's products and history.

Would you want this kind of knife?

Yes
74
52%
No
46
32%
Indifferent
22
15%
 
Total votes: 142

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That's a cool concept / design. I like it.
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I like to EDC a small fixed blade like this in a hip pocket sheath not around the neck so I would like to see one from Spyderco. If it was made in Golden or Japan I'd buy it. There are already enough Chinese neckers to choose from.
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i voted no . i dont wear anything on my neck. but its cool for those who like it.
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Th design of the kydex sheath might be able to accept a g-glip or tec-lock.for belt carry
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sixheads wrote:i voted no . i dont wear anything on my neck. but its cool for those who like it.
I don't actually care for neck carry as well, but I loves me some neck carry-sized knives. :D
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27x40 wrote:I like to EDC a small fixed blade like this in a hip pocket sheath not around the neck so I would like to see one from Spyderco. If it was made in Golden or Japan I'd buy it. There are already enough Chinese neckers to choose from.
I would love to see one in 5/32 VG10 like the Street Beat. I think it's time to revive the Spyderco-Japan alliance on this one. :cool:

I'm sure that Mr. Janich could come up with a relatively quick and easy design for a sub-3" fixed blade with some G10 scales and the ability to be used in both standard and inverted edge methods fairly well. The Shivworks Clinch Pick/Disciple sells out incredibly fast (even the trainers!) when Mr. Rinaldi makes a new batch despite the premium pricing and I keep running into sold out websites for the P'kal. There is obviously a demand there for IE blades and Spyderco has the reputation and pricing to make even a slightly less purpose-driven IE-capable knife sell very well.
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I'd buy a nice H1 neck knife, sure.
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I think the Manix 2 shape(just smaller) would be just perfect for a neck-knife design. Make sure to keep the FFG, lanyard hole, and proud jimping.

Come to think of it, my above idea would be great for a new Mule Team design. Sorry, I just don't find the current Mule Teams to be attractive at all.
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PureSeventyNine wrote:I think the Manix 2 shape(just smaller) would be just perfect for a neck-knife design. Make sure to keep the FFG, lanyard hole, and proud jimping.

Come to think of it, my above idea would be great for a new Mule Team design. Sorry, I just don't find the current Mule Teams to be attractive at all.
The Native blade shape would also be a good example to give a go with. Nice front/back neutral handle with a rounded pommel and good spine jimping for the modified Filipino guys while still giving Hammer Grip guys like myself something to get our mitts around.
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Here's a CADD rendering of the blade shape I was trying to get at with H1 Steel. I can't do a FFG version, as it's too much of a hassle to do.

It's not absolutely perfect, but it's better than the drawing.
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I voted no since I already have a neck sheath for my Swick 2. Unless its for self defense, I dont see the utility. It does provide easy access, but it also requires 2 hands to put it back in. This kinda kills neck carry for my mundane fishing/hiking tasks. Id rather have total one hand Spydie clipit or hip sheath fixed blade. Im not knocking neck carry, but I would like to hear other folks thoughts on this. Im always open to being shown the light of anohter path (to allow me to buy more Spydies...)
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I think a lot of y'all are just voting no because you don't want to wear it around your neck. Just because it is called a neck knife doesn't require you to carry it on your neck. I have a "neck knife" but I carry it on my belt with a clip. Like I stated earlier, if Spyderco did come out with a knife like this, I would absolutely buy it, but it would never come in contact with my neck.
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Pneumothorax wrote:I voted no since I already have a neck sheath for my Swick 2. Unless its for self defense, I dont see the utility. It does provide easy access, but it also requires 2 hands to put it back in. This kinda kills neck carry for my mundane fishing/hiking tasks. Id rather have total one hand Spydie clipit or hip sheath fixed blade. Im not knocking neck carry, but I would like to hear other folks thoughts on this. Im always open to being shown the light of anohter path (to allow me to buy more Spydies...)
I think it could be possible to position the eyelets to accept a G-clip or a Tek-lok or just some cord in the sheath.

As stated before, I'd like to see Sal or Eric weigh in, though I don't think this thread has enough momentum, or lack of "Yes" votes.
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I think the Swick/Swick 2 kind of fill this need, but I would be interested potentially in one like this as well. I think the cad rendering shows handles that are maybe a little too thin and prone to breakage in hard use but that is just my impression and I could be wrong. Overall I like the idea.
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Frapiscide wrote:Here's a CADD rendering of the blade shape I was trying to get at with H1 Steel. I can't do a FFG version, as it's too much of a hassle to do.

It's not absolutely perfect, but it's better than the drawing.
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Looks good! You might flatten the spine and round the end of the handle on top just a bit so the FMA kids can use the Modified Filipino grip more comfortably, but it looks really good for the first go. I design knives all of the time on paper but lack the tools to even make trainers of them to see how they feel. Kind of a bummer, but that's what happens when you have to live in an apartment.

I like the scandi grind ever since I saw the Ray Mears sharpening video on youtube. You can literally just tilt the blade until the grind is flat on the stone and sharpen from there. No angles to worry about at all. :cool:
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defenestrate wrote:I think the Swick/Swick 2 kind of fill this need, but I would be interested potentially in one like this as well. I think the cad rendering shows handles that are maybe a little too thin and prone to breakage in hard use but that is just my impression and I could be wrong. Overall I like the idea.
My issue with the Swicks (and I love mine to bits so don't get me wrong) is that they're just different enough to make them incompatible with a lot of knife methods. You can't use them reverse grip very well with standard techniques (but kerambit-type techniques are just dandy), and you certainly can't use them IE forward or trailing blade. The small size is fantastic but I would like a more standard-handle option with approximately the same blade shape and overall size.

I'm seeing a pretty strong market response to smaller fixed blades over the last few years. The folder is still king in the overall market share but the realities of fumbling around with a folder are getting more and more face time in training seminars and self-defense forums. The recent addition of the TDI training and it's associated videos demonstrating that their slowest fixed deployment is at least twice as fast as their fastest folder deployment after minimal contact with the new tool speaks in a manner that you don't see in many martial arts classes. "Reality Martial Arts" might be a flavor-of-the-month buzzword (like "Ninja" and "Muay Thai" before it) but the TDI seminars, Shivworks, and a bunch of other folks are finally getting listened to about the speed and utility of these small fixed blades by a pretty wide audience.
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defenestrate wrote:I think the cad rendering shows handles that are maybe a little too thin and prone to breakage in hard use but that is just my impression and I could be wrong.
Updated the model with a thicker handle truer to the drawing. Also added 1mm fillet to the handle edges for more comfort.

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psychophipps wrote:You might flatten the spine and round the end of the handle on top just a bit so the FMA kids can use the Modified Filipino grip more comfortably, but it looks really good for the first go.
I'm keeping the spine rounded for more in line of the Manix 2's blade shape and I don't think it needs a super sharp tip, as it would contribute to a weaker tip.

Also, with A2 Steel (The closest and only recognizable steel) it only weights 1.12 oz!
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allory wrote:Did you make your sheath or buy it. I picked up a Swick 2, but haven't decided what to do with it yet.
Had them made for me (I dont have the time or skills to do it myself + my wife says I dont need another hobby). Got both neck and belt sheath made so I can carry how ever I want. I can get you names of who made them if you want. Just gotta look it up.
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Frapiscide wrote:I think it could be possible to position the eyelets to accept a G-clip or a Tek-lok or just some cord in the sheath.
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Probably. I just had both version made. Im sure you could get it done that way. I just wasnt savvy enough to ask or require it.
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jwingfie wrote:I think a lot of y'all are just voting no because you don't want to wear it around your neck. Just because it is called a neck knife doesn't require you to carry it on your neck. I have a "neck knife" but I carry it on my belt with a clip. Like I stated earlier, if Spyderco did come out with a knife like this, I would absolutely buy it, but it would never come in contact with my neck.
Agreed. Maybe it would or might be better posted: "Would anyone want a small Spyderco fixed blade that could be carried neck or belt?". Might get more people interested? I do agree that the negative angle of the Swick 2 limits its overall utility. You might also have to qualify the length of the blade as smaller than the Mule since you dont want folks saying that a small fixed blade 'already exists - its called the Mule'.
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