If you do not own a Leafstorm, do not read.

meng · #1

Today I used my Leafstorm to cut something. I used alot of power, alot. I used my fist, so no thumb on top of the knife. After doing that, the lockup changed dramatically. At first the lockup was about 40/50% and after my heavy use it went to 80/90% lockup. What happened??? I heard therLeafstorm has a adjustable lockup but no success. I tried to adjust it but after using alot of force again the lockup was again 80/90%????

Is there anyone who tried this? If you own one, please try and let me know.
Do not know what to do now.

By the way, I own 2 Leafstorms and they both act like this after using some force.

SmoothOne25 · #2

i heard of similar probs like that from someone i know who has it. another reason, other than appearance, why i never picked it up. cant help you but i know quite a few people here have the leafstrom and will be happy to help. deacon has been very helpful and informative. he'll know.
btw the two tone on the handle... not for me. at least not in this peticular model.

gull wing · #3

I think I know your position, I think. ???

I have several Ti framelocks, some do it, some don't.

It's not a problem IF when you close and then open again and it returns to the original position. I have Sebenza's that do that with no ill effect. A framelock's good feature is when you squeze tight it forces the lock lug in, keeping it locked up.

Not sure if this is your issue but I hope it helps.

meng · #4

The problem is, it does not jump back to the original position. Lockup goes from 40% to 80 or 90% and stays that way even after closing and re-opening the knife! It is now (almost) touching the G-10 scale.

gull wing · #5

A problem! You should contact Warranty & Repair.

Wish you happy results.

araneae · #6

You raised the same thread on BF:
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showt ... p?t=681800

Pics of the situation would be still be nice.

Clawhammer · #7

I don't own a Leafstorm....but I read this anyway!...I'm not bound by your 'RULES' :)

cosmo7809 · #8

Clawhammer wrote:I don't own a Leafstorm....but I read this anyway!...I'm not bound by your 'RULES' :)

+1 :cool:

Chris_H · #9

I don't see it being a problem necessarily, unless it is failing to lock up tightly at the new position. As stated by another poster, the lock is designed to move across the tang as wear occurs.

I have a large Wegner with a Walker liner lock that goes all the way across the tang. However, the blade still has no play in it.

markg · #10

If as described, I bet your issue is the stop pin not the lock. Sounds like under pressure you flexed the whole system and allowed the lock to move across the face of the tang. If you have done nothing to wear the lock (which I assume you have not) then the issue would be with the stop pin. If the pin is able to be rotated, then rotate the pin and see of the lock returns to the original position.

All things being equal, a lot of lock placement issues can be resolved with pivot tightening and/or stop pin rotation.

Also keep in mind, that the locking "bar" of a frame lock has significally greater area than that of a liner lock. So if the forward face of the lock is on the inside part of the tang, then the rear face of the lock is more than likely in the middle. The RIL just has a lot more bearing surface than the liner lock, so many of the rules we play with, with liner locks may or may not apply at the same degree with the RIL.

DJ · #11

I have two Leafstorms ...... I would like to hear the finally of this problem .....
Did it get fixed ?? ..........thanks dj

meng · #12

The issue I have is going to Sal. There is another tread going on on Bladeforum.com. Please read that too.

araneae · #13

I am unsure what your issue is having read your two threads on BF and this one. You admit to at least causing this issue on your first knife by disassembling it and compromising the pivot, screws, and lockup. Then it sounds like you over stressed the handle which made the problem worse. Then you apparently tried the same thing to a new Leafstorm and had the same issue. :confused:

jujigatame · #14

meng wrote:
Is there anyone who tried this? If you own one, please try and let me know.
Do not know what to do now.

By the way, I own 2 Leafstorms and they both act like this after using some force.

Not for nothing but why would you ask anyone else to do what you did to their knife? Another person's knife isn't your test subject for something like unnecessarily altering the lockup.

Firebat · #15

I must be pretty tired, or perhaps its the handful of beers I drank earlier, but neither this thread nor the one on BF makes any sense to me. :confused:

Perhaps if the OP slowed down a bit and tried to explain the issue very clearly we'd be able to help. Pictures would be good, as would full and honest disclosure about whether or not the knife has been disassembled previously.

SamMaxRay · #16

I'm so naughty, I read it anyway.

Pneumothorax · #17

Im interested in the final resolution to this - is it a Leafstorm issue? Is it an RIL issue? Is it a pivot issue? Is it a stop pin issue? Outside of this mystery, I will never likely use my Leafstorm in the way described, so Im not worried about it for me...

RJNC · #18

Oh no Clawhammer I don't own a Leafstorm and I read it too!...

nathan310 · #19

clawhammer wrote:i don't own a leafstorm....but i read this anyway!...i'm not bound by your 'rules' :)

hahah!!!

The Deacon · #20

SmoothOne25 wrote:i heard of similar probs like that from someone i know who has it. another reason, other than appearance, why i never picked it up. cant help you but i know quite a few people here have the leafstrom and will be happy to help. deacon has been very helpful and informative. he'll know.
btw the two tone on the handle... not for me. at least not in this peticular model.

Deacon does not own a Leafstorm. To the best of my recollection, I've never even handled one. So, I suspect like most of the close to 600 people who've read this thread, I'm breaking the OP's "rule" just by being here.

I did respond to the OP's initial post over on BF where the issue was screws he messed up trying to take a Leafstorm apart. He did not mention any other issues until after it was suggested that he contact W&R.

Beyond that, and the observation that the Leafstorm appears to have a most remarkable capacity for inducing dyslexia, I'll keep my opinions on this one to myself.