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What do you we know about 9Cr18Mo, and any idea why it was chosen for the next mule?
Marion
The Steel for the Next Mule - 9Cr18Mo - What is it's claim to fame?
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Marion David Poff
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The Steel for the Next Mule - 9Cr18Mo - What is it's claim to fame?
Marion David Poff
One obvious reason is that it is a Chinese steel that is considered an upgrade over 8Cr...... The Tenacious was a success for the Chinese manufacturer(s), but to take the next step they would want to use something other than the Byrd steel.
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- William James, from The Will to Believe, a guest lecture at Yale University in 1897
- William James, from The Will to Believe, a guest lecture at Yale University in 1897
A couple of the Mules to date have used steels that Spyderco had already used in folders, and they've learned interesting things from the different demands and stresses of a fixed blade -- especially with ZDP-189. Why should 8Cr be any different?Sequimite wrote:One obvious reason is that it is a Chinese steel that is considered an upgrade over 8Cr...... The Tenacious was a success for the Chinese manufacturer(s), but to take the next step they would want to use something other than the Byrd steel.
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Sal's statement on this forum:
Sal. You mentioned the Mule coming in 2009 with 9Cr18Mo. I assume this is a Chinese steel. If well received might we see this in future Byrds?
“that's the plan.
sal”
“The first attraction to the Tenacious is the value at the price. The best steel that was readily available was the 8Cr13MoV. We're experimenting with 9Cr18Mo and should have a "Mule Team" piece later this year. It is more difficult to work with so it's still experimental. . . .
sal”
Sal. You mentioned the Mule coming in 2009 with 9Cr18Mo. I assume this is a Chinese steel. If well received might we see this in future Byrds?
“that's the plan.
sal”
“The first attraction to the Tenacious is the value at the price. The best steel that was readily available was the 8Cr13MoV. We're experimenting with 9Cr18Mo and should have a "Mule Team" piece later this year. It is more difficult to work with so it's still experimental. . . .
sal”
Our reason is quite satisfied, in 999 cases out of every 1000 of us, if we can find a few arguments that will do to recite in case our credulity is criticized by someone else. Our faith is faith in someone else's faith, and in the greatest matters this is most the case.
- William James, from The Will to Believe, a guest lecture at Yale University in 1897
- William James, from The Will to Believe, a guest lecture at Yale University in 1897
If it's available at a reasonable price, I may bite but as it stands, there are too many folders on my wish list.LorenzoL wrote:Another Mule I won't be buying...
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I am excited for this mule. It's a new steel and I have high hopes that it will be a good steel at a bargain price (related to its origin). I am sure that Sal will see that they get the best out of the steel. I have been happy with 8Cr so if this is any better I will be satisfied.
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The "Spirit" of the design does not come through unless used. -Sal
An upgraded Byrd line and Tenacious/Persistence would be nice. I like my Byrds but they hardly see the light of day due to my Spydies.
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Taz just posted that it's going for $20 a pop. And this:
About 9Cr18Mo:
9Cr18Mo is a premium ingot high-carbon steel. In our experience it’s the best knife steel being produced in China today. The name is derived from its component elements: .9% carbon, 18% chromium and 1% molybdenum. With controlled heat treat and tempering it reaches a HRc of 58-62. Before its entrée into the knife industry it was widely used for high-end Chinese barbering scissors, roller bearings and surgical tools due to its corrosion resistance and high processing quality. The application of 9Cr18Mo to knife manufacturing opens up another steel option for high-end knife manufacturers and their high-end knife enthusiasts alike. The addition of a 9Cr18Mo Spyderco Mule fleshes out the series further by offering users the opportunity to evaluate and test drive a high-performance steel from yet another country.
About 9Cr18Mo:
9Cr18Mo is a premium ingot high-carbon steel. In our experience it’s the best knife steel being produced in China today. The name is derived from its component elements: .9% carbon, 18% chromium and 1% molybdenum. With controlled heat treat and tempering it reaches a HRc of 58-62. Before its entrée into the knife industry it was widely used for high-end Chinese barbering scissors, roller bearings and surgical tools due to its corrosion resistance and high processing quality. The application of 9Cr18Mo to knife manufacturing opens up another steel option for high-end knife manufacturers and their high-end knife enthusiasts alike. The addition of a 9Cr18Mo Spyderco Mule fleshes out the series further by offering users the opportunity to evaluate and test drive a high-performance steel from yet another country.
Our reason is quite satisfied, in 999 cases out of every 1000 of us, if we can find a few arguments that will do to recite in case our credulity is criticized by someone else. Our faith is faith in someone else's faith, and in the greatest matters this is most the case.
- William James, from The Will to Believe, a guest lecture at Yale University in 1897
- William James, from The Will to Believe, a guest lecture at Yale University in 1897
A little bit of google shows that it is used in china for bearings where a high corrosion resistance is required. And it is "equivalent" to 440C in the USA and Japan. So this is what china was supposed to use in the Byrd line originally. Again this was a little bit of searching.
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They are bad enough that CPM stopped making the steel and bad enough for Phil Wilson to give up making knives out of the stock he had.VashHash wrote:I'll buy one i'm sure it can't be that much but i still say 110V please not sure what the specs for 125V are but they can't be that bad
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