H1 Scratching

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H1 Scratching

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Has anyone else noticed that their blades made with H1 scratch easier than other steels? I have used mine very lightly on the same items as my paramilitary and Delica but the Salt has a lot of fine scratches and the others do not.

Not a complaint or worry, was just curious as to why.
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Yes.If you do a search you will find other threads.
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rycen wrote:Yes.If you do a search you will find other threads.
So I guess this is common with this knife. I didn't know. What a great little slicer it is. Thanks for the comment. :D
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I think that was probably noticed within 24 hours of the first Salt I being sold. The way I understand it, that's because H-1 is a work hardened steel which makes the edge is considerably harder than the flats of the blade.
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Salts scratch up very easily and my daily companion Tasman Salt has lots of these character marks. My Rock Salt also bears many many scratches both from lots of use as well as unsheathing and resheathing with a mucked up blade and/or sheath. To me, it just shows that you actually use the knife, which is what the Salt line, like all other :spyder: 's, is meant to do. :)
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My Salt I looks like a dog's breakfast ! My incoming Rock Salt will also lok the same I reckon after a few uses on my neighbours palm tree, conifers and gum tree :p
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Noticed the same thing with my new SE Spyderhawk. I found a very small chip on the small plain edge section near the tip. I stropped the edge a little to clean it up and the strop left some abrasion marks on the flat of the blade. On the other hand, it made the edge near the tip razor sharp. :D I can accept that trade-off.
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I think stonewashing would be the answer.
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IIRC the entire blade is hardened at the factory (during the rolling process) up to 56 Rc. In theory some of the softer steel types out there should scratch just as easily.
My bet is H-1 is even easier to scratch because it doesn't have any carbides, where any true "steel" at least has the carbon carbides to increase wear resistance.
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I've sent a Tasman into Golden for a sharpening (its edge was destroyed--embarrassing). When it came back all sharp and buffed, I noticed that while it still scratched, the scratches weren't nearly as deep. Perhaps you could send it to Golden with a note asking for a buffing only.
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Yep, I have found the same scratches on my Salt 1 after EDC'ing it for a while. They aren't that deep and that's what counts, IMO. I also like the "battle scars." :)
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I agree with the above comment...stonewashed H-1 would make these blades so great!

My ladybug gets put in the pocket with my keys, I guess I am "ghetto stonewashing" it as we speak.

Spyderco can have another 100 bucks if I find a stonewashed pac-salt (FFG would be preferred) on my doorstep :D
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Does anyone have one of the black bladed Pac Salts? I wonder how those are holding up in comparison to the "bare-bladed" salts?
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Yes I did the stonwash on mine.
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gull wing wrote:Yes I did the stonwash on mine.
Wow! What method did you use to achieve that beautiful knife? rock tumbler, company, etc?

Did you tumble the pocket clip as well? :D

I have wanted to do this the longest time.
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gull wing wrote:Yes I did the stonwash on mine.
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Looks like you also changed the tip and the jimping. ;)

How did you get a torx pivot screw in there?
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Billy wrote:Does anyone have one of the black bladed Pac Salts? I wonder how those are holding up in comparison to the "bare-bladed" salts?
Got one, but haven't used it much. When I reach for my Pac Salt, it's the yellow one with the bumpy blade. :D If I need a plain edge, I tend to go for a Millie or Sage I or...
But, if I ever need to slip into my ninja suit... ;)
To be honest, I'm not much of a fan of coated blades but the black Pac just spoke to me.
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D1omedes wrote: How did you get a torx pivot screw in there?
It looks like you reused the original black washer from the pin job on the left side. Details please. Did you have to enlarge the hole in the blade?
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My Tasman SE has seen a thousand thousands (my Mom told me a million times not to exaggerate) of cardboard slicings and it is right scratched up... but it makes me want to use it more and not baby it, and it looks cool :cool: . I hate the first scratch on a knife like there's no tomorrow, but after that I feel better. And to answer your question, the H1 does scratch quite easily.

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h1 does scratch very easily. it is also easy polish the scratches out with braso or something like that.

i find that h1 takes a really nice edge if i am patient with the sharp maker and the ultrafine stones.
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