2009 Forum Native - Second Run

[The Deacon]

They do need to do a better job of this. A list you can add your name to in advance to secure your purchase, and a limit of one, or two to keep the opportunists from buying a bunch to re-sell.

The way this went down was very upsetting for me personally, and I am sure countless others who support the company.

Anyway from a 21 year customer...thanks for nothing.

And with that sir, you've managed to earn a spot on my ignore list. :rolleyes:

[Murdoc]

Toad, you should try to calm down a little. There's no need of getting personal, and this last post was just a hair away from it.

As I said before, such comments are constantly devalueing the whole idea and the knife itself, which is contraproductive and bad style to boot. I get your point perfectly, but so did everybody else DAYS ago as there were more than enough posts about it. Nobody FORCED Sal and crew to go out of their way and do that for us, and in view of all the negative and even aggressive comments of the past days, if I were them I would hesitate to make another one next year altogether. I feel we should finally stop stirring the pot over and over again, instead start looking forward to a possible next year's Forum knife and maybe start to come up with suggestions for it. That would, for a change, be a) positive and b) constructive.

What about a black bladed Forum FRN US(!)PK with a special handle color, for example?

Dennis

[Sherpa]

They do need to do a better job of this. A list you can add your name to in advance to secure your purchase, and a limit of one, or two to keep the opportunists from buying a bunch to re-sell.

The way this went down was very upsetting for me personally, and I am sure countless others who support the company.

Anyway from a 21 year customer...thanks for nothing.

Nice attitude!

When I was a child, and prone to crying when I wasn't able to gratify my every desire, right when I wanted it gratified and the way I wanted it gratified. My mother used to sing to me a song by the rolling stones. The memory is slightly fuzzy and blocked out due to the INTENSE pain of the situation. Something like... " You can't always get what you want. "

My mother used humor to show me when I was being silly. It worked. I am trying to use some to help this forum right now.

Take it easy people, it's just a little knife. With the way so many of the people here are acting about this knife right now, I just about don't want the thing anymore.

My mother also taught me that life is not always fair. You catch more flies with honey than vinegar. Knowing rules like this makes the road of life smoother.

Heck if I were a lottery winner I would commission a run of knives from Spyderco just like the forum knives. With another hole next to the first one. To look like eyes, with tears etched on the blade instead of the web. To give away to those unfortunate people who don't get every single knife they want.

lol

[PSU]

Heck if I were a lottery winner I would commission a run of knives from Spyderco just like the forum knives. With another hole next to the first one. To look like eyes, with tears etched on the blade instead of the web. To give away to those unfortunate people who don't get every single knife they want.

LOL, classic! :D

I mean no offense to the people upset in this thread, but that's just funny.

[Axlis]

Anyway from a 21 year customer...thanks for nothing.

Wow, I didn't know it was possible for someone to be that much of an ***, great job!

[hoshyoto]

So, has anyone else tried the jalapeño-raspberry jam with peanut butter yet?

[Lockback]

Let's all take a deep breath.

When I posed this question, I hoped to ascertain the demand for more 2009 Forum Natives (since Spyderco hit such a home run with them in terms of design), and politely demonstrate that unmet demand to anyone who might be in the position of having more produced.

I think the tone of this thread has gotten away from its original intent, but the strong responses are still indicative of the disappointment people feel who did not have the opportunity to purchase one.

Spyderco does not owe anyone on this forum (especially me) anything. I'm sure the production of a forum knofe is a headache that they could very easily do without. I realize that the forum knife is a special piece that obviously was much more popular than anticipated. The last thing Spyderco wanted, I'm sure, is to produce 300, sell 75, and close out the remaining ones in six months below cost. That's just good business sense. However, knowing that the demand exists for a Golden-made model that could be produced in-house, which may have more flexibility than some of the overseas suppliers, would it also be good business sense to make more, which would have the serendipitous benefit of providing more to forum members who, for various reasons, did not purchase a forum knife?

I don't think anyone here is asking to be "given" anything, except a second chance at purchasing a model that is special in terms of materials and features, but also has the intangible quality of being produced as a "thank you" to the folks on the forum. Whether that occurs or not, it is my sincere hope that everyone at Spyderco takes pride in having produced such an incredibly popular model that it has created such a stir.

[Diamondback]

It's not as if Spyderco made just 300 forum knives to disappoint on purpose. They did the best they could based upon their calculations. The LAST thing Spyderco would do is to purposefully alienate it's loyal customer base.

Ya win some....ya lose some. Learn from life, and move on. :)

- regards

[MaxStatic]

I simply don't get where the sense of entitlement some of you are displaying comes from. If circumstances came up and you lucked out, I'm sorry for your loss. Slamming the company only serves to insure they never do something like this again. You find me another knife company that shows interest enough to make a forum knife these days. I've been begging BM to do another one for years and all we hear is silence.

One more thing, I'm not seeing too many of them pop up on the second hand market for flipping. I don't think that's what happened i.e. people buying 20 of them for resale. Sure a couple here on eBay and what not. It's not like the recent BM 806 M4 release. The things were showing up on the bay and on BM's own forum for nearly twice what they sold for the very same day. They are still being listed as such.

I think most that got them got a couple and it was a popular configuration. Popular to the point that it sold out in 8 hours.

I am happy that I scored and sad that others didn't. Big thanks to Spyderco for making this happen! It could be worse, we could have nothing to talk about.

[spyderknut]

I had not missed a forum knife since I joined the forum until this one. I have collected most of the older forum knives. I would really love to see another run and would not mind the engraving being modified to denote a second run if necessary. If the original run had been 500 or I'd had a less difficult day at work, I would have three in my collection now!

[Blerv]

They do need to do a better job of this. A list you can add your name to in advance to secure your purchase, and a limit of one, or two to keep the opportunists from buying a bunch to re-sell.

The way this went down was very upsetting for me personally, and I am sure countless others who support the company.

Anyway from a 21 year customer...thanks for nothing.

Yes, thank you for stating the blatantly obvious. I think they figured this out already (humanity = mistakes).

Besides running an upstanding company and pushing out 5-10 new models per year with a staff of less than 50 people, they seem to do a great job.

Here's a useful link for next time:

http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/

Edit: Once again I wanted to mention (as it's been nailed into the coffin 100 times already), the sell out took 8 HOURS!.

Taylor Swift tickets sold out in 15 minutes and there were still thousands of happy/deranged adolescents.

[demtek9]

I had not missed a forum knife since I joined the forum until this one. I have collected most of the older forum knives. I would really love to see another run and would not mind the engraving being modified to denote a second run if necessary. If the original run had been 500 or I'd had a less difficult day at work, I would have three in my collection now!

Well they have had issues in the past with selling all 500, so thats probably the reason for 300. due to the cost, I heard only 200 or 250 of the original 2000 forum Millie were actually made vice the 1 of 500 etching. I personally have not gotten a forum model until this Native. The last one before that was the Centofante. All steel construction does nothing for me.

[The Deacon]

Well they have had issues in the past with selling all 500, so thats probably the reason for 300. due to the cost, I heard only 200 or 250 of the original 2000 forum Millie were actually made vice the 1 of 500 etching. I personally have not gotten a forum model until this Native. The last one before that was the Centofante. All steel construction does nothing for me.

Honestly, I'd be very surprised if were are more than 100 or so of the Forum Military in existence. AFAIK, up until this year, the best selling Forum knife Spyderco made sold less than 200 pieces. Based on past performance, making 300 was a risk for them, especially when some folks were expressing their unwillingness to buy it because of the color choice or because it had "too much" engraving on the blade. So I can see where making any more than what they did would have been an unacceptably high risk for them.

My gut says we'll see a glut of these on eBay in the near future. A few of the scalpers will get lucky and sell one or two for a premium, the rest will either close for less than what was paid for them, or have a high starting price and languish with no bids Maybe that's just wishful thinking on my part, but I hope that's the way it turns out.

[Fozzy]

I'd like to see a second run. I missed out on the existing run due to work committments. That's life. I'll hunt one down eventually.

Past forum runs have proven to be a big cash drain for Spyderco. I'm happy to see that this one was so successful that this thread even exists.

My thanks and appreciation to Sal, Kristi and the rest of the folks at Spyderco. Step back and think about how many companies would do this- Especially when it's been a financial drain in the past.

[redyps04]

Its over.... As I said in my other post

" I understand everyones point of view here... But you also have to say that only 300 of them were made and NOT everyone who wanted one will get one its as simple as that... And yes maybe if some people did not buy an extra 2 or 3(for their cousins daughters aunt who is only 6) it would have made members who were not able to score one have more of a chance....I got home late last night too where they were sold out. But Monday night I copied down the phone #, discount code and all that good stuff so if I felt for what ever reason I could not make it home in time atleast I can call it in. And I did(took about 5 minutes).

I do however think it should have been limited to one per person for say 24 hours then if still some remaining how ever many you want.

But you know what, we dont have ANY reason to fault spyderco, I do not see any other knife brand go out of their way for customers like they do. Where can you post a question and get an answer from the heads of the company within a few hours....? Who continues to make a forum knife each year? Who actually wants the customers opinions?

Spyderco you did a fine job once again, and the people that want the knife well... As my dad says, you snooze you loose(might sound harsh but hey... thats reality). But I do wish that either spyderco makes more of these(will defeat the whole "limited" thing) or you are able to find them on the secondary market. )"

I have to agree with cosmo here. I don't exactly think it was right for some of you to get extras as presents for familiy members. Especially if those family members are not even avid forums members. There are other knives for that purpose- i.e. a regular production run Pink Native which goes for breast cancer for example. I think this forum knife is supposed to be a special keepsake for all of us here who have been avid supporters of not just Spyderco, but the forums.

Of course, it's totally up to the individual here, but I just believe whoever got more than one here should consider finding someone here who lost out on them and working something out. Not to me, I don't really want one. I'm just speaking up for the other forum members and future forum knives.

In the future, Taz really should make a limited "one order person person" stipulation.

[Axlis]

I got distracted by "The Toad" earlier, but my feelings are against another run of the forum knife. Spyderco didn't have to give us the first one, but they did because they appreciate our input and they appreciate our business. It is a rarity for a company to give anything back, just one reason I choose spyderco. I myself did not get to order a forum knife, but it is not the end of the world. I've been a member here for four years, and I have yet to buy one forum knife. It would have been nice for 2009 to have been my first, but life goes on, and so does my passion for spyderco. In fact, I'm glad all of them sold out, because spyderco has had to "eat" forum knives in the past.

I missed out but I still want to say:

THANK YOU SPYDERCREW FOR THE 2009 FORUM KNIFE!

[AnimalHousePA]

I don't think there should be another run. TazKristi gave more than enough notice about the date and time these would go on sale. I couldn't get online to order so I brought the SFO number with me to work and "excused" myself for a bit so I could order. I'm just thankful that Spyderco made these Natives because they are really nice. :) I look forward to the 2010 Forum Knife! :spyder:

[Bluntrauma]

I pretty much agree with not having another one. I was very late to the show and actually bought number 297 according to the site and I was lucky to get one at all considering I put a note in my pocket and then forgot about it. I have been on this site for a few years and this is the first forum knife I have ever owned.

I am very grateful to Spyderco for expending the time and energy into producing one for members. It is a shame that some did not get one but there will be others. I just hope next year I remember the note in my pocket.

[LorenzoL]

I do not understand why some are whining about not getting this knife, there are plenty available on eBay, one went for 68$, a couple more for 80$ and there are still a few around both on eBay and Blade Forums... Sometimes the whole fun about collecting knives is to find discontinued or sold-out models.

[JNewell]

Man, if I were Taz or Sal (and I'm not, which is a good thing for all of us), I'd say to myself..."geez, all this did was stir up hard feeligs...no more of these forum knife ideas, please." I am sure they're cruising above that, but it would drive me slightly crazy.