If the Urban had a lock, it would be perfect.

[kgriggs8]

I saw the orange Urban today and almost said it was perfect until I saw there was no lock. It would be the perfect EDC for me if it just had some sort of lock. Even a compression lock would be fine.

[vivi]

Is there anything in specific you wouldn't use the knife for as it is? I EDC a UKPK often and carried it as my only knife for over half a year and never ran into any problems with the lack of a lock. The design prevents it from being an issue except for the more extreme of cases.

[cobrajoe]

Just out of curiousity, why do you feel you need a lock?

I often carry my Tmag, and even though the "lock" is rather weak, I trust it to do just about everything that I need a knife for. I do wish it was flat ground instead of hollow, if it were I probably would carry it more often.

[spyderHS08]

Im guessing the urban is just about the same as my ukpk, and it is my favorite current spydie, I love that thing. And am thinking about a FG urban. Also the ukpk has that second stop right before it closes which can save your finger in some weird case it may come partially closed while in use. From what I have read the urban has all the same characteristics as a ukpk so theres really no need for a lock..
just my $.02

[kgriggs8]

It is just a safety thing. For 99% of the things I use a knife for, I really don't have to have a lock. It is just that I have become used to a lock and I fear I might use the knife in a way that might cut me without thinking.

I have given up all my non-locking knives and now I guess I have become dependant on locks. I have also given up all knives that had questionable locks. I use my locking knives in a way that cause me to lose a finger if I used a slip joint. I often pivot the blade into the lock to cut things like zip ties. If the lock ever failed, I would get cut.

I have used my BM 921 Switchback to cut zip ties at work for years and it never fails me. I put the tip into the ring of the zip tie and lever the edge towards the tie until it shears it off. It works like a pair of scissors more than a knife and I feel it is safer than just slicing it because I use less force and there is no danger of the blade cutting through the tie and then someone else when it breaks free.

I have just grown used to using my knives in certain ways. I only use Warncliff blades for work and more and more for everything. I am not going to stop using a knife the way I want to, I look for tools to fit me, not the other way around.

[spyderHS08]

Hey no problem then, you want safety first so if the knife isnt for you, you dont want to try an change that. If you do your right, things may get bloody..lol. But yes you want a knife that fits you and your duties and if the lock is what your used to and what you need you simply cannot change that.

[amen74]

An Urban with a backlock would be cool. I've been thinking how cool it would be if the UKPK was offered with a backlock, it would feel like a baby Manix. The Caly 3 is essentially the same design, but it's made with different materials. Golden made would be nice. I still love my UKPK just the way it is. :)

[catamount]

You're not alone, I'd also like to see a version with a lock.

http://spyderco.com/forums/showthread.php?t=36962

It's a great little knife, though, and I don't miss a lock using it for small routine tasks.

[MLR]

one thing overlooked is that a lock allows for slick opening, which is something i missed so much in my ukpk that i ultimately sold it. the smooth action is why i love spydies, and the reality is the non-locking versions require much more force to open.

[Netsquash]

I would also like to see a lock. The blade seems like a great EDC (like to see some stainless steel handles though) except for the lock. I know this knife was specifically designed for a certain market but to open it up to a North American lock friendly group would be nice.

I also use my knife in ways that make a lock essential. I really only trust the locks backs like you see in the Enduras, Delicas, Dragonflys, and others. I have a Spin with a line lock, and it seems great for the size of the knife because you won't be using it for big cutting tasks. In my opinion, the bigger the knife, the bigger the lock. That may go against the military fans out there, but I can understand why there is a liner lock with all that sand.

I hurt myself enough as it is, I'm pretty hard on myself saving myself from a cut 1/10 times I use a knife stops my hands from looking like Freddy Kruger's face.

I don't advocate a change in the Urban, just a new knife with a lock that is similar.

[gull wing]

I have one and....
If it came first with a lock, ok. Of course there is the PRICE monkey, :eek: (I went into sticker shock)
For now, I would not buy a locking Urban, it's small enough to not need one. As long as I remember which side the cutting edge is on. :)

[Pneumothorax]

one thing overlooked is that a lock allows for slick opening, which is something i missed so much in my ukpk that i ultimately sold it. the smooth action is why i love spydies, and the reality is the non-locking versions require much more force to open.

Im considering the Urban Wharnie Orange for its size/blade/color, but this is the first Ive hear of the opening characteristics. Is there big difference in how the slipits open? My local stores dont carry them, so I can't test them out. How would you describe the differences in opening from a regular lockback? Any more insight appreciated.

[Medic]

I saw the orange Urban today and almost said it was perfect until I saw there was no lock. It would be the perfect EDC for me if it just had some sort of lock. Even a compression lock would be fine.

I 110% agree! spyderco needs more 2.5in blades for those of us who live in not so "knife friendly" states. I flip flop back and forth on if i can give u my 2 year old caly3 EDC for a FG urban without a lock ... if it had a lock back, i would be sold. if it was made in golden, i'll take 2 - but i wont get picky :P

[Halfneck]

Im considering the Urban Wharnie Orange for its size/blade/color, but this is the first Ive hear of the opening characteristics. Is there big difference in how the slipits open? My local stores dont carry them, so I can't test them out. How would you describe the differences in opening from a regular lockback? Any more insight appreciated.

There is resistance pretty much the whole opening arc. Not enough to where you need to use 2-hands, but you can't just flick it open. I was surprised by this too when I first handled one. Of course it only makes sense as it is basically just new twist on slipjoints. If there was not any resistance it could flip open or closed at the wrong time.

[GeorgeMaggos]

Hey kgriggs8,

If the Urban had a lock, it would not be the Urban then

It is made for people who live or work in cities States or even Countries with stricter knife laws about blade size & locks it is needed in more & more places everyday.

But the great thing is Spyderco makes so many different knives there is something good for everone & every task.

Each model has a own purpose why it was built & most cover general purpose but there are so many models to choose from there is a right one for everyone.

If you need a small bladed lockback check out the DragonFly :)

~George

[catamount]

It never hurts to ask for what you want. I believe the Caly 3 was the result of people asking for a locking version of the UKPK.

[araneae]

My Caly 3 has been a lonely fellow since my UKPK came along. The lack of a lock is no consideration for 90% of my cutting needs. I can't wait until I have the cash to get myself an Urban. :rolleyes:

[Spydiman]

Isn't Sal and Company tooling up for a G-10 Dragonfly production run? That would be a nice substitute.

[Pneumothorax]

Ive heard of the G10 Dragonfly and that is a definite, but the Urban has a blade length between D'fly and Caly. Its a nice in between size knife. Dfly cutting edge is 1 7/8", Urban is 2 1/4" and Caly/UKPK is 2 5/8".

[catamount]

Isn't Sal and Company tooling up for a G-10 Dragonfly production run? That would be a nice substitute.

I don't see the two as being equivalent at all. The Dragonfly's handle is too small to get a good four finger grip, and the ergonomics are not nearly as good as the Urban's; not to mention the blade is smaller. That's not to say the Dragonfly isn't nice for what it is.

IMO, the Urban is just right; not too big, and not too small. Another great design by Sal.