To anyone w/relevant experience (esp. military, law-enforcement, and other security personnel):
It's often said "If you're in a knife fight, you can count on being cut". But most martial arts instructors leave it at that (or maybe tell you to give 'em the back of your forearm instead of the front).
How are those of you in higher-risk occupations trained to handle the PSYCHOLOGICAL effect of being slashed or stabbed in the midst of a physical conflict?
(yeah, Mr. J, your Porkman demo definitely made an impression. . .& not just on him! May he rest in pieces.)
Thank y'all,
Vince
". . .the strength of the pack is the wolf, and the strength of the wolf is the pack."
--R. Kipling
Edited by - mr. v on 2/13/2002 9:13:03 AM
coping w/being opened
Would apply to any trauma situation; gun-shot, knife wound, empty handed assault, accident, etc... Do not give up, keep going, go, go, go...Pachucks (note for the scumbags and wackos that scan these boards: this will not work for you, its genetic, its been scientifically proven; just lay down, give up, its over)
Primary goal. When confronted with a situation where you are wounded, are under fire, or otherwise in serious trouble - think primary goal. For the most part primary goal is always the same: stay alive. Do whatever to takes to stay alive. As Pachuko says - go, go, go... Keep your focus and keep your head. Eliminate your immediate threat and control the situation, deal with any immediate life-threatening wounds. Call for back-up, call for medical help. Maintain your awareness until help arrives. Bottom line remains - primary focus: stay alive. You cannot think about dying, about how badly you are injured, or what you cannot do. You must focus on DOING and surviving.
As on of my intructors used to say: "Feel the pain later"...
Sirius
Edited by - Sirius on 2/14/2002 3:53:06 AM
As on of my intructors used to say: "Feel the pain later"...
Sirius
Edited by - Sirius on 2/14/2002 3:53:06 AM
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Dear Mr. V and others:
Understanding anatomy is another important means of working through a cut. If you are thoroughly familiar with how your body works, where things are, what happens to them when they get cut, and how to assess the damage, you can deal with getting cut much more effectively. Often it's not knowing how bad it is that is the scariest.
Last year one of my private students accidentally started a training drill with a live Delica. When I felt a "drag" rather than a "slide" on the back of my right wrist, I looked down and saw that I had suffered a cut about 1-1/4 inches long and 1/2-inch deep in the back of my right wrist. My actions, in order, were to:
1) Break contact to prevent any further damage.
2) Tightly grip my knife to mentally register the fact that the flexor action of my hand - which allows me to grip things - had not been damaged. This also convinced me that I could have continued to fight with that wound if I had to.
3) Switch the knife to my other hand and extend my fingers fully to test the extensor action of the tendons.
4) Put the knife away, apply pressure, and elevated the limb above my heart.
5) Seek medical attention.
6) Seek a distilled, single-malt beverage.
By knowing how things should work, it is possible to quickly assess their actual function and/or the potential damage done. While it may not change the result, it allows you to understand and deal with the situation much more rationally.
Stay safe,
mike j
Understanding anatomy is another important means of working through a cut. If you are thoroughly familiar with how your body works, where things are, what happens to them when they get cut, and how to assess the damage, you can deal with getting cut much more effectively. Often it's not knowing how bad it is that is the scariest.
Last year one of my private students accidentally started a training drill with a live Delica. When I felt a "drag" rather than a "slide" on the back of my right wrist, I looked down and saw that I had suffered a cut about 1-1/4 inches long and 1/2-inch deep in the back of my right wrist. My actions, in order, were to:
1) Break contact to prevent any further damage.
2) Tightly grip my knife to mentally register the fact that the flexor action of my hand - which allows me to grip things - had not been damaged. This also convinced me that I could have continued to fight with that wound if I had to.
3) Switch the knife to my other hand and extend my fingers fully to test the extensor action of the tendons.
4) Put the knife away, apply pressure, and elevated the limb above my heart.
5) Seek medical attention.
6) Seek a distilled, single-malt beverage.
By knowing how things should work, it is possible to quickly assess their actual function and/or the potential damage done. While it may not change the result, it allows you to understand and deal with the situation much more rationally.
Stay safe,
mike j
I would like to fully support Mike's post. Understanding anatomy is important not only for wounding your attacker, but for understanding your own injuries. I believe everyone should have at least a basic undertanding of anatomy and first aid - more if possible. Consider that if you are attacked you may not be able to reach professional help, or even any help for that matter. Always be prepared to help yourself...
The one thing I would debate about Mik'e comments...is where he prioritises
"seek[ing] a distilled, single-malt beverage"...Now I might put that higher on the list...
Sirius
The one thing I would debate about Mik'e comments...is where he prioritises
"seek[ing] a distilled, single-malt beverage"...Now I might put that higher on the list...
Sirius