UKPK and Urban Trainer models?

[Jedi Knife]

Hi,

I am a huge proponent of the UKPK and upcoming Urban models, but I'd like to offer a suggestion: How about making "trainer" models for these knives, like the Delica and Endura trainers? I think these would be great for practicing safe knife techniques with these knives, and give us carriers a better understanding of what we can do with these knives.

[Fred Sanford]

Wouldn't it be sort of counter productive to make trainers for these knives?

First off, they don't have locks. I'm not saying that you cannot do damage with a lock less knife. I'm just saying that if you plan to carry for SD get a locking knife.

Second, don't you think that any knife that has a "trainer" would be looked at by a court or jury as a "weapon"? I do.

I would rather the UKPK and the Urban stay "nice little slippits". :)

[ClockWork]

I tend to agree...

The only knife I would want a Trainer is for my SD knife...

and whenever I carry a big knife, I will always carry a Cricket or Subcom to use so i dont have to whip out a giant scary knife and get Maced or any thing...... and i think that the Urban would fall into the smaller/nicer knife catagory.

Although I don;t have one, I would like to see a Civilian trainer...

-Clock

[cockroach]

David,
I agree - the only reason the UKPK exists is that it is NOT a weapon, and it was made to comply with restrictive laws (and the same will apply to the Urban). If a self defence trainer existed, that would completely go against the whole concept.

[Ian UK]

What about a live blade in red G10 or a Burgundy one, as a collector of coloured Spydies and their variants, I would like to see another colour avalible in the UKPK. :)

[telemeister]

What about a live blade in red G10 or a Burgundy one, as a collector of coloured Spydies and their variants, I would like to see another colour avalible in the UKPK. :)

Absolutely!! I'm a huge fan of the UKPK (and the Caly, and no doubt the Urban) and would love to see more colours (except pink )

[VultureParade]

I do think that a trainer for the Urban or UKPK in regards to self-defense is a bit counter-productive and may even hurt the image of the knives that Spyderco is trying to obtain.

However, I do think there's something to be said about trainers for educating the public about knives and how these new Slipit models by Spyderco provide a useful alternative to knives with locks.

I think the idea of trainers for knives is glued to the self-defense section of the knife world, but a blunt version of a model could just as easily be used to teach children or other groups of people unfamiliar with knives how to handle the live blade safely.

But then the question becomes one of who will pay retail price for a dull version of a knife who isn't involved in self-defense?

I doubt knife education seminars exist, when, if you think about it, is kind of silly due to how much the human race has relied on the edge of a blade throughout civilization.

[Fozzy]

As to the feasibility of a UKPK trainer from a corporate standpoint, I can't say that I see the practicality.

That said though, I have to respectfully disagree that it a trainer for these models is counterproductive.

Every knife I carry, whether fixed or folder, I carry with the knowledge that I may have to use that knife in any number of ways including for self defense. I think that the UKPK has some practical applications for self defense. The UKPK has a characteristic that most other MBC blades lack: The blade doesn't lock. To me, this makes a training blade practical.

I love the new colors and I would love to see other colors as well... Including pink! :D

[Gibsoniam]

with regard to a dulled trainer, i believe sal has indicated a blunt tipped 'safety' blade is one of the four intended blade styles. while not a dull blade, i think this would be an excellent starter knife. i hope the blade tip is like the snub nosed assist. i believe that feature is a spyderco patent.