Fake Karambit on eBay??
Fake Karambit on eBay??
Hi all:
I just saw this knife on eBay:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Spyderco-C84P-Karam ... otohosting
I looked at it and it looked WRONG, so I grabbed my own Karambit and compared. The seller's eBay handle is CUDARED, for those who may be interested. Now, this could be a prototype, an early model, or a fake. There are a range of aspects that look quite different from my own real Karambit. It looks like this one has Spyderco and Warrent Thomas Design on the blade, but mine says VG-10 and this looks like it says 440 (maybe?). Anyway, I would love to have feedback on whether people think this is a prototype, etc. or a fake.
I just saw this knife on eBay:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Spyderco-C84P-Karam ... otohosting
I looked at it and it looked WRONG, so I grabbed my own Karambit and compared. The seller's eBay handle is CUDARED, for those who may be interested. Now, this could be a prototype, an early model, or a fake. There are a range of aspects that look quite different from my own real Karambit. It looks like this one has Spyderco and Warrent Thomas Design on the blade, but mine says VG-10 and this looks like it says 440 (maybe?). Anyway, I would love to have feedback on whether people think this is a prototype, etc. or a fake.
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That is curious. I highly doubt a prototype would be sold without something bragging about it in the description, not to mention that it's started at a low price.
EDIT: It looks like this seller has actually bought the blade on ebay:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 0062331905
EDIT: It looks like this seller has actually bought the blade on ebay:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 0062331905
Oh man--that is a cheesy fake
Okay--those pictures are obviously a cheesy fake--and its the same knife. That is embarassingly bad.
I don't know if it's as bad as this one:Qboy wrote:Okay--those pictures are obviously a cheesy fake--and its the same knife. That is embarassingly bad.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Spyderco-seki-japan ... dZViewItem
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Hi:
It is worth noting that the seller of the other knockoff Karambit is called collectible666. This seller has a 100% approval rating. Cudared has a very high approval rating too. This just goes to show that a high approval rating if far from a guarantee.
It is worth noting that the seller of the other knockoff Karambit is called collectible666. This seller has a 100% approval rating. Cudared has a very high approval rating too. This just goes to show that a high approval rating if far from a guarantee.
That's doubly offensive as it not only is a fake Spyder but also a fake Warren Thomas knife.
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Wonder if Sal & company are aware of this knockoff.
Just did the "ask the seller a question" bit with this:
How can you, in good conscience, list a cheap Chinese knockoff that your recently purchased as a genuine Spyderco C84?
Just did the "ask the seller a question" bit with this:
How can you, in good conscience, list a cheap Chinese knockoff that your recently purchased as a genuine Spyderco C84?
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Ebay has reporting services to report items, unfortunately they only allow for putting the item number in alot of them, so you cannot advise what is wrong, and the ebay people certainly don't know squat about knives!
I recently reported THIS :spyder:, can you figure out why?
Funny thing is, if you look at the enlarged version of the 3rd picture, what do you see?
Incidentally, the Karambit seller ended his listing, so someone on this forum must have had an impact!
I recently reported THIS :spyder:, can you figure out why?
Funny thing is, if you look at the enlarged version of the 3rd picture, what do you see?
Incidentally, the Karambit seller ended his listing, so someone on this forum must have had an impact!
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The Kbit is a fake sh!t !!! :eek:
Same as the Gunting with liner lock which the australian guy was showing us time back.
I dont believe the if it were a prototype - someone would sell it for a 19.99 USD starting bid!
Looks like to many fakes starting to be out there, IMO.
Found this on the chinese ebay!
Or this one... :eek:
Same as the Gunting with liner lock which the australian guy was showing us time back.
I dont believe the if it were a prototype - someone would sell it for a 19.99 USD starting bid!
Looks like to many fakes starting to be out there, IMO.
Found this on the chinese ebay!
Or this one... :eek:
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Guess the seller with the Goddard thought just because it was burgundy it must be ZDP. :D Although, at the price they had it listed for, I doubt anyone would bite. :eek:Darkfin wrote:Ebay has reporting services to report items, unfortunately they only allow for putting the item number in alot of them, so you cannot advise what is wrong, and the ebay people certainly don't know squat about knives!
I recently reported THIS :spyder:, can you figure out why?
Funny thing is, if you look at the enlarged version of the 3rd picture, what do you see?
Incidentally, the Karambit seller ended his listing, so someone on this forum must have had an impact!
As for the K'bit, got this back from the seller in response to my question:
Felt like sending her a gift - a crying towel and a recording of the worlds smallest violin playing "Hearts and Flowers".Hi, I am sorry for any inconvience this listing may have caused you. Yes,I purchased this knife on ebay as a gift to my husband. The knife blade says Spyderco 440 Warren Thomas Design on it. Up until about 3 hrs. ago we both thought that this knife was an original. We were notified by another ebay member that it could possibly be a knock off. At that time we researched and found out that it probably is. We notified the opening bidder and were waiting for an email from him letting us know if he wanted to continue with the auction or not.For all I know the opening bidder could still want the knife. After cheking my email again, and seeing the rather abrupt e-mail from you, my husband and I decided to end the auction. Again my being taken in by another ebayer and then trying to resell my item because my husband did't like it has brought you any unneccessary inconvience.
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The Deacon wrote:Felt like sending her a gift - a crying towel and a recording of the worlds smallest violin playing "Hearts and Flowers".
I hope you just settled for "Thanks for replying, and no I was not inconvenienced." ...unless of course you WERE? :)
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Yep, that's about what I responded.Darkfin wrote:I hope you just settled for "Thanks for replying, and no I was not inconvenienced." ...unless of course you WERE? :)
Paul
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Good, cause I wanna buy that Hearts & Flowers recording off ya!
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Fake Knives and EBay
I was the person who notified the seller before Deacon that this knife looked like a fake. The seller has a high rating and has sold a lot of stuff, so I'd bet that this was a real mistake rather than an attempt at fraud. You don't get a rating that high selling under false pretenses. I buy a lot of knives on eBay, so I think I have a pretty good feel.
That said, the seller's response kind of misses the point when she says they were waiting to see if the bidder still wanted it!! The listing should have been pulled. Selling knockoffs that violate trademark and intellectual property is just plain wrong. I hope that the seller can grasp this concept.
That said, the seller's response kind of misses the point when she says they were waiting to see if the bidder still wanted it!! The listing should have been pulled. Selling knockoffs that violate trademark and intellectual property is just plain wrong. I hope that the seller can grasp this concept.