Okay, so I've never been a gun person, especially since I have 3 kids (4,11 & 13). But I couldn't resist buying the GLOCK when I got the Endura Armorer's Tool. I know there are a lot of GLOCKERS out there, any advice would be helpful.
Having a handgun around kind of brings a whole new meaning to the word...'SpyderBites.' :eek:
I Found a Use for My GLOCK TOOL...
I Found a Use for My GLOCK TOOL...
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Joe Talmadge
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You bought a Spyderco glock tool, and because of that, you went out to get a Glock to go with it? You're a guy who has his priorities straight! :) :)
I have the Glock book by Kasler (just search "Glock" on amazon.com, it's in the top 5 hits), which gives details on how to completely break down the glock. Note you don't need the tool to field strip the Glock, just to break it down further.
Joe
I have the Glock book by Kasler (just search "Glock" on amazon.com, it's in the top 5 hits), which gives details on how to completely break down the glock. Note you don't need the tool to field strip the Glock, just to break it down further.
Joe
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para-force
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It's a Glock, so there's really no advice to give! The things are pretty **** indestructable.
IMO, having kids is an even greater incentive to own a gun. Not only do you have your life to protect, but the lives of your children as well. Invest in a quality locking safe that you can have quick accessability to and you should be good to go.
IMO, having kids is an even greater incentive to own a gun. Not only do you have your life to protect, but the lives of your children as well. Invest in a quality locking safe that you can have quick accessability to and you should be good to go.
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My advice is to take the kids and the Glock to the range. Show them how it works, what it does, even let at least the older two shoot it. Remove all the mystery from it, satisfy their curiosity about it. That way they will be able to resist the temptation to play with it, especially when you aren't around. Education is the first step to avoiding tragedy, and a step which is too often ignored. I'd probably have a few less scars if I had been taught as much about knives as early as I was about guns. :o
I don't believe in safe queens, only in pre-need replacements.
Sell it and buy a SIG. :pJspyEDC wrote:I know there are a lot of GLOCKERS out there, any advice would be helpful.:
Seriously though, is this your first firearm? Either way, the best advice I can give is to always practice good safety: http://www.nrahq.org/education/guide.asp
The NRA has a lot of other good information on the website. Familiarise yourself with the operation of the weapon, how to field strip and clean it, its safety features, etc.
You'll most likely find that you've stumbled onto another rewarding hobby.
Make sure you have a safe & secure way to store your Glock when it is not on you.
Lots of Training & Range time. Possibly get a .22lr conversion for your Glock so you can practice inexpensively.
Teach your children the foundations of firearm safety and get them instruction as soon as they are old enough.
Enjoy.
Lots of Training & Range time. Possibly get a .22lr conversion for your Glock so you can practice inexpensively.
Teach your children the foundations of firearm safety and get them instruction as soon as they are old enough.
Enjoy.
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I recommend a safe called the Gunvault. You can get one for around $75 to 150. It has the finger buttons you can program or key lock. I have 4 kids also, and have had no problems with it. I programed in a pretty difficult combination to stumble upon.
I have a rule I never break, the gun is on me or in the safe. NEVER anywhere else (unless it being cleaned, etc.)
Also, reinforce to you children that gun ownership is information that is a "need to know" basis. What I mean is... Your 15 year old daughter tells a few friends, who tell a few friends, who are friends with some kids on the wrong side of the law who now see you as a target for a break in and theft of firearms. I am pretty sticky about this rule also.
I have two Glocks (26 and 30) and both have served me well.
I have a rule I never break, the gun is on me or in the safe. NEVER anywhere else (unless it being cleaned, etc.)
Also, reinforce to you children that gun ownership is information that is a "need to know" basis. What I mean is... Your 15 year old daughter tells a few friends, who tell a few friends, who are friends with some kids on the wrong side of the law who now see you as a target for a break in and theft of firearms. I am pretty sticky about this rule also.
I have two Glocks (26 and 30) and both have served me well.
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Please don't hide it from your kids,thats how most of the shootings by children happen.A child that finds a hidden gun that has not been taught about it is where the problem is.
Take them with you when shooting and teach them,you will not have any problem with them wanting to play with it.
Take them with you when shooting and teach them,you will not have any problem with them wanting to play with it.
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Congrats on the gun and Knife combo...I'm old enough to remember when the first Glocks came out....they were green... the same color as that foliage green Delica...and the orginal Glock Knife was also Green.........now everything is in Black...Gun and Knife...I miss the Green old days...........Doc :D
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Congrats Jspy!!
I agree about the gunsafe with the finger combo/key option. My godson's mom has her glock in one, and has never had a problem. My godson is 6 and crazy smart! If he can't get to it and hasn't bothered it, you're kids will be fine! :D
I also strongly urge edgeucation for your kids! I was raised around guns from an infant and I always knew what to do around them and no accidents!!
God bless and enjoy! Let this be something that can bring your family closer together!
Tim :D
I agree about the gunsafe with the finger combo/key option. My godson's mom has her glock in one, and has never had a problem. My godson is 6 and crazy smart! If he can't get to it and hasn't bothered it, you're kids will be fine! :D
I also strongly urge edgeucation for your kids! I was raised around guns from an infant and I always knew what to do around them and no accidents!!
God bless and enjoy! Let this be something that can bring your family closer together!
Tim :D
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Congrats on the new toy! err, umm deadly, dangerous, maiming, injury inflicting weapon. Sorry, don't want the kids to misunderstand :D
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Pretty good assembly/disassembly video here:
http://www.chartingnature.com/books.cfm?book=B12477
A pair of bent nosed pliers will make your life easier.
Qship
http://www.chartingnature.com/books.cfm?book=B12477
A pair of bent nosed pliers will make your life easier.
Qship
Since you obviously enjoy webforums, be sure to check out Glocktalk.com. There's a wealth of information available there. Enjoy!
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They are great guns and really easy to break apart and clean. I know a guy who puts his in the dishwasher and has had it for years...not that I recommend it, but my point is it can be done :p Now you have inspired me to buy a Spyderco Glock knife.
As far as cleaning and lube (you only use the smallest amount on your gun), I will simply say everyone will have their own preferences and you will find yours quickly.
If you plan to keep the gun chambered for home defense, it is worth knowing that (although you likely know all of this):
1) A Glock is a defensive gun first and foremost. It is not a 'legal' piece. By that I mean it will fire if there is a round chambered but a magazine is not present (I realize this sounds stupid but an X gf's mother bought a G21 and they were used to the S&Ws which do not fire when chambered and a mag is not in the gun...luckily when she realized this with her Glock, the gun did fire but no one was shot...definitely not safe usage). Also, when the trigger is pulled, the gun will fire. There is no external safety other than the trigger on the trigger of the Safe Action system. If this trigger on the trigger is not engaged, simply said the gun will not fire. This is completely safe if the gun is dropped or even thrown as the Glock Safe Action System is designed to fire when and only when the trigger is pulled. Given that there is no trigger lock and the civilian version is only a 5.5 lb trigger pull (IIRC LEOs are 12lbs), if you shoot with anyone, be absolutely CERTAIN they do not have their finger on the trigger unless they are ready to fire. This is crucial as some 'gun guys' are yet to understand how Glocks work differently from other guns and I see safety errors way too often. I have seen people have their finger on the trigger when they should not have. Overall, the safety system is very simple and Glocks to not accidentally fire...human error is where people get hurt.
2) The Golden Saber Bonded are one of the better home defense bullets (they have a nice damage as far as a ballistics report or whatever it is called) and probably the best buy for the money (or I should say, bang for the buck aha I made a funny). A classic round is the Federal HydraShok although this is an older, but proven, performer.
3) If you do chamber, alternate your rounds in your mag and keep track of which ones are chambered how often. After a bullet has been chambered and unchambered about 3-4 times, either fire it or dispose of it as altering the pressure in that round can actually cause the barrel to explode because of a bullet malfunction because of how Glocks chamber. Because of the high pressure of .40 and 357 SIG, these rounds are most at risk for this occurrence.
As far as cleaning and lube (you only use the smallest amount on your gun), I will simply say everyone will have their own preferences and you will find yours quickly.
If you plan to keep the gun chambered for home defense, it is worth knowing that (although you likely know all of this):
1) A Glock is a defensive gun first and foremost. It is not a 'legal' piece. By that I mean it will fire if there is a round chambered but a magazine is not present (I realize this sounds stupid but an X gf's mother bought a G21 and they were used to the S&Ws which do not fire when chambered and a mag is not in the gun...luckily when she realized this with her Glock, the gun did fire but no one was shot...definitely not safe usage). Also, when the trigger is pulled, the gun will fire. There is no external safety other than the trigger on the trigger of the Safe Action system. If this trigger on the trigger is not engaged, simply said the gun will not fire. This is completely safe if the gun is dropped or even thrown as the Glock Safe Action System is designed to fire when and only when the trigger is pulled. Given that there is no trigger lock and the civilian version is only a 5.5 lb trigger pull (IIRC LEOs are 12lbs), if you shoot with anyone, be absolutely CERTAIN they do not have their finger on the trigger unless they are ready to fire. This is crucial as some 'gun guys' are yet to understand how Glocks work differently from other guns and I see safety errors way too often. I have seen people have their finger on the trigger when they should not have. Overall, the safety system is very simple and Glocks to not accidentally fire...human error is where people get hurt.
2) The Golden Saber Bonded are one of the better home defense bullets (they have a nice damage as far as a ballistics report or whatever it is called) and probably the best buy for the money (or I should say, bang for the buck aha I made a funny). A classic round is the Federal HydraShok although this is an older, but proven, performer.
3) If you do chamber, alternate your rounds in your mag and keep track of which ones are chambered how often. After a bullet has been chambered and unchambered about 3-4 times, either fire it or dispose of it as altering the pressure in that round can actually cause the barrel to explode because of a bullet malfunction because of how Glocks chamber. Because of the high pressure of .40 and 357 SIG, these rounds are most at risk for this occurrence.
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Thanks to all for such great info. I found a really good buy on a handgun safe on eBay, and I took my oldest son to the range for the first time. Handguns are definately less glamarous for him now! Also made him read and study the Glock Safety book which came with my 23. He Aced the quiz afterward. Great ideas people!!
Again thanks VERY MUCH to all of you...:JoeT,para,yablan,padewan,halfneck,markg, brian,j smith,pj, slatts, dr. snub, puyall,ff880, qship!!!!
Again thanks VERY MUCH to all of you...:JoeT,para,yablan,padewan,halfneck,markg, brian,j smith,pj, slatts, dr. snub, puyall,ff880, qship!!!!
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Thanks!
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No I did not, and I very much appreciate the info, especially re: firing w/o the magazine. I owned a S&W 9mm 15 years ago, never would have thought that. Good information!!
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No I did not, and I very much appreciate the info, especially re: firing w/o the magazine. I owned a S&W 9mm 15 years ago, never would have thought that. Good information!!
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When taking your kids to the range (which is an excellent idea, only way for them to truly learn safety) MAKE SURE THEY KEEP THEIR THUMB BELOW THE SLIDE WHEN FIRING. I was 11 years old the first time I fired a semi-auto pistol and nearly sheared my right thumb off! Congrats on the "Spyderco of pistols", it will never fail you.