Any offical word from Spyderco?!?!?!?!?!

[Big-Target]

Simona;
between your dog(Fluffy-the destof worlds) your rifle, :spyder: 's, and other toys,,,,,,no wonder I like you!!!!! :)

[TK]

Please forgive my ignorance but I don't know what it is either... :o

+1. Can anyone help? :o

[florijn]

+1. Can anyone help? :o

Sehe dich mal den Erotic seite von der Otto catalog an,
Schone :spyder: grusse aus Holland.
PM send with explanation.

[steve andrews]

Are these forums moderated?

Obviously not.
I'm sure that the Spyderco crew will be proud of their fanboys - and girls.

Oh well, "When In Rome"....
In my opinion the creature on the "item" that Simona posted looks much more like a bee than a butterfly.
I think that this looks very much more butterfly-like:



:rolleyes:

[FullerH]

Simona - 9mm Luger is just a holdover name from back when the 9mm was chambered in the German Luger. The 9mm Parabellum just became associated with Luger pistols, thus people started calling it a 9mm Luger like a nickname.

Same concept applies when someone says they own a .45. ?? Excuse me, what kind? Glock 21? CZ 97? Sig Sauer 220? They just assume you know that when they say ".45" that it's a 1911.

Still have yet to figure out why people call it a .45 "Long" Colt. It's .45 Colt, not Long - There never was a .45 Short Colt.

By the way, what are Mozart kugeln?

People call it the ".45 Long Colt" to distinguish it from the .45 ACP round which is rather shorther. As you know, the .45 Long Colt was initally designed for the Colt Model 1873 Single Action Army Revolver, the famed "Peacemaker" of the Old West. Back in black powder days, they made the cartridge longer so that they could fit in lager powder loadings for more power. That is not needed with the more powerful smokeless powders, hence the shorter case on the more modern .45ACP round.

[J Smith]

Are these forums moderated?

Obviously not.
I'm sure that the Spyderco crew will be proud of their fanboys - and girls.

Oh well, "When In Rome"....
In my opinion the creature on the "item" that Simona posted looks much more like a bee than a butterfly.
I think that this looks very much more butterfly-like:



:rolleyes:

It would be nice to hear something from Spyderco,doesn't look like that will happen.TazKristi was just online reading the thread.

[Bodieism]

Are these forums moderated?

Obviously not.

You can't be serious can you? Its pretty low to start attacking the Spyderco crew who work hard to keep this forum going. You should know that they can't possibly read every post in this forum and if you have a "real" problem with a post you should report it by clicking on the icon beside the post number.... you'll get results much quicker that way.

[J Smith]

Kristi was reading the thread.
I would guess that they can not give any details.

[yablanowitz]

Random thought for the day to all you Benchmade fans who see nothing wrong with what they did.

Try marketing a Mickey Mouse watch without asking Disney's permission, and see what happens.

The only difference is the relative amount of money between the parties. Disney would take you to court in a heartbeat (judging from past cases) because:
A) Mickey Mouse is a registered trademark of Disney
B) They have a LOT more money than you, so they can afford it.
Would your 10,000 unauthorized Mickey Mouse watches hurt the Disney corporation? Not a chance. Would that stop them from coming after you? Again, not a chance.
That mouse is their property, and they will defend it.

So why will this probably not go to court? Given the track record of our legal system, my bet for the outcome would be TWO bankrupt knife companies and a bunch of wealthy lawyers. While I wouldn't mind losing Benchmade, I'd like to see Spyderco stay in business.

Why all the anger directed at Benchmade? Wake up and smell the coffee! They violated the Spyderco trademark. Period. Full stop. I don't care WHY they did it, any more than I would care WHY someone stole my truck. That they did it is enough to set me off.

[Simple Man]

I don't know, yablanowitz, I don't see anything recognizable in these three circles, why should one circle be any different?

[steve andrews]

You can't be serious can you? Its pretty low to start attacking the Spyderco crew who work hard to keep this forum going. You should know that they can't possibly read every post in this forum and if you have a "real" problem with a post you should report it by clicking on the icon beside the post number.... you'll get results much quicker that way.

That was not an attack on Spyderco's employees as, to be honest, I overlooked the fact that as this is Spyderco's own forum, they would be the only people who could remove an offensive post. Most of the forums that I frequent are moderated by the members and that sort of post would have been jumped on quickly.
However, it does seem that the same post got promptly moderated at the Benchmade Forum , and the poster banned... What a surprise.

[smcfalls13]

This thread is no longer even remotely close to productive, and it's only barely still civil.

I applaud Simona for her attempt to derail it with some humor(even if it might have been a little much), but apparently we're all too concerned with proving who's right. These threads always seem to make lawyers out of all of us.

I've stayed out of it for the most part, but I've got some sarcastic comments that need to be made. So please, open up your sense of humor for once.

-Simona's thread got shut down on Benchmades forum quickly, because Benchmade has much more time to moderate the forum simply because they're not making their own designs, but taking others' ideas.

-The round hole has already been issued as a trademark, NOT A PATENT. Any hole can be used for function, but the round hole is synonymous with Spyderco. That's not debateable. You see a round hole, you think Spyderco, THAT is why the trademark was issued, and it was rightly issued. A trademark is something that is associated with a company, nothing in the knife world is as recognizably Spyderco as the round hole. You have a problem with that? Tough s***.

-Spyderco will not likely respond to this thread, and rightly so. Why should they? We all seem to have the answers, and we've got everything figured out. Who needs good lawyers when we've got knife fans

-That doctored picture of Papa Sal in barbarian garb? Sure it was someone else's picture first, but noone is trying to make any money off of it, and that's the difference between that picture and the hole in the Vex. That hole screams Spyderco. Putting the Spyderco hole on a red class BM undermines the hole. The hole means Spyderco quality, and by putting on a knife with abysmal fit and finish like a BM red class, it's going to give the Spyderhole a bad name. BM is trying to make money off the Spyderco look while at the same discrediting the hole. Conspiracy theory? Absolutely

-I could go on, I've got plenty more of this, but I think this is more than enough sarcasm to go around. Be advised these are intended as backhanded jokes. I'm half serious on most of these, but I've embellished what I originally wanted to say, to make these comments completely outrageous. If you take offense to any of these, you really need to lighten up.

-Zen, we need some kittens in this thread, I don't think my Aardvark is going to cut it this time.

[Simona]

Here is only one man who know the answer!



Do not forget! The First rule of Chuck Norris is: you do not talk about benchmade.

[smcfalls13]

Norman could take Chuck Norris, and he doesn't even have hands. :p



And for the record, if I were given the proper amount of the greatest beverage in the world, I'm fairly confident I could roundhouse kick Chuck Norris into the next galaxy, I just need a little of this...

[zenheretic]

Scott I dub thy Delta Ki nickname as Gasoline, here take a pledge pin.

[smcfalls13]

Scott I dub thy Delta Ki nickname as Gasoline, here take a pledge pin.

Why thank you sir.

By the way, your new avatar fricking rocks. :D

[zenheretic]

Why thank you sir.

By the way, your new avatar fricking rocks. :D

Yeah I stole it...er the creator and I came to an agreement on its use. I can't talk about it, but you can expect some great Avatar's from me in the future. :D

[smcfalls13]

Yeah I stole it...er the creator and I came to an agreement on its use. I can't talk about it, but you can expect some great Avatar's from me in the future. :D

LOL... :D

"Agreement" huh? :p

This thread is going to get real interesting, real quickly. :cool:

[zenheretic]

LOL... :D

"Agreement" huh? :p

This thread is going to get real interesting, real quickly. :cool:

I don't see how. If you compile the majority of what those who support Benchmade in this vexing endeavor have stated: we stalwart Spyderco sympathsizers: have no life outside of the internet, are raving madmen frothing at the mouth in a huge tizzy, behaving in a manner that reflects poorly on Spyderco, and generally shouldn't care about two business in the act of business.

I find all this rather humorous. At best, the vast majority of us, camp here in the Spyderco forums, the place were we spend most of our internet time, and say something like "no Benchmade for me." Why this would bother someone on the "outside" is rather puzzling. We didn't all scamper on over to Benchmade forums, sign up just yesterday, or choose to suddenly start voicing our opinions and scream our case. We don't realy make a big deal on the generic blade forums I frequent. We voice our opinions on it and try to move on, all in a calm manner at Spyderco.com/forums. Others come here and tell us we are wrong, disregard that seemingly slippery concept known as "doing the right thing", and ignore all the logic and case examples we provide.

How could any of this be interesting? :cool: :spyder:

[Jordan]

I once got up in arms about something somewhat similiar to this... a cheap, off brand ripoff of the spyderfly that was so minimally altered as to be insulting... Sal, of course, had wisdom to impart in that situation... not to say that this monkey business is the same (after all, BM does kind of share the same market as Spyderco... present company excluded). If I may, I would like to quote his response to my rant from that thread (entitled "What a bunch of thieves")

Hi Jordan,

"It takes all kinds of animals to make a forest. Without the mosquitos and the leeches, one does not appreciate the hawk and the deer".

sal