Most sheeple friendly knife?

[Robert Martin]

I was wondering what is the Spyderco knife that people thought most politicaly correct?



Edited by - robert martin on 6/2/2001 12:36:04 AM

[sam the man..]

Toad. Its so cute! <img src="smile.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle>

Sam

have spydies will travel

[Clay Kesting]

I've recently had the opportunity to handle a stainless steel Dragonfly for the first time <img src="smile.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle><img src="smile.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle><img src="smile.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle><img src="smile.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle>. I think it is the nicest small knife around and I can't imagine anyone taking offence to it.

Clay

Don't worry that the world might end tomorrow, in Australia it's tomorrow already.

[Sheeple]

I love Spydercos, but truth to tell none of my knives seem to pass the sheeple test. My "legal" Delica gets the bug eyes. Same goes for Dragonfly and even Ladybugs I and II. The teeth seem to get most, the one hand open and "snick!" of the lock gets to the others.

I'm thinking of getting a plain edge Dragonfly, but would still prefer something a bit smaller with a flat ground blade. For some reason the lack of sexy grind lines makes a Dragonfly sized (and under) blade seem more utilitarian, more pocketknifey than "tactical."

I think "sexy grind lines" approaches that fine line between sex and violence, if you know what I mean. If you know what I mean, I'm not sure I want to know you...

Anyway, in the few posts that I have on these boards, I have been lobbying for flat grind small Spydercos, not just for sheeple-friendliness, but for pure cutting utility.

I think the Kershaw people are on the right track with their traditional looking locking pocketknives (e.g. the Double Cross), nice traditional flat ground pocketknife blades wiht a cool liner lock. I was thinking of getting it but I want to save my $$$ for a new Spyderco. Call it brand loyalty, but I love Spyderhole opening!

[vampyrewolf]

For sheeple that know me, they are comfortable around my Cricket. The snick-click gets to some people...

For use on the bus or other largly sheeple setting, I don't have any heads turn with my Ladybug(50/50).

[ftkinney]

i agree with what people have been posting. and if Klay says the dragonfly is a nice knife i'm sure it is, i took his advice and purchaced a bob lum chinese folder and it just fantastic. i have to say that it might be a great "sheeple" knife: i think that Sheeple is right that a flat grind with a less sexy or i would say less "tachical" blade shape, the broad leaf shape over the pionty shape of the endura or delica, anthor key is handle color once ajain think about the swiss army knife bright red less military more utiliy . steel, aluminum, titaium and non-black handles read less like wepons. the rescue in bright yellow or orange would be fine, the rescue's or the lady bug new sheep's foot blade even serated still screams utility. i just read about spyderco re-relesing blue handled enduras and i've even seen a pink handled delica at www.bladeart.com any of these you might what to check out. the dyad has a sertan clean polished look in the glossy black, with two blades give it a tradional pocket knife feel and you can get a way with a pointy blade and a serated one at the same time. samo and vampyerwolf are right in that a smaller knife looks less threating i am a larger size guy (5'10" 265#) with big hands so a toad looks so small it become cute just like samo says. you could go down the "full tool" way and get the spydertool that would be great. most people perseve that as a tool like a leatherman or gerber multi-tool. the serded edge might have a more sinister apperance expecialy in a large fully serated version such as the endura or the military there is a few threads about airlines that might be real helpfull expcialy if you fly. it is very subjective but some how fineding a knife that fits your personality and becomeing cofotable with it helps make the knife seem to be right. due to my size and coming from texas i could probly get away with wereing a chinook and justt get the occasional ripping. if nothing else you could always look at the thread about movies avoid thouse used by the "villian" and in this instance hannable lecture counts as a villian (that harpy fits his personaly and the scene to a "t" along with the beutifull hat and suit).

hope all this long windedness helps.

FTK

[Michael G73]

I know, of all my knives, the one that gets the least "negative" reaction is my little Swiss Army keychain knife. <img src="smile.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle>

That said, of my Spyderco's, the Dragonfly seems the most well-received. I get lots of comments on its serrated blade- but when I carry my plain edge one, it usually gets oohs and ahhs for its small size, but rarely concerns or complaints.

I agree that for those who need something less "dangerous" or "mean" looking, a brigher colored handle and a slightly different shaped blade on the Dragonfly might be a good idea. How about orange or bight green?

-Michael

PS: Oh yeah, BTW, the Cricket is pretty friendly, too!

Edited by - TheMacGuy on 6/2/2001 12:55:19 PM

[The Stare]

Guess everything is relative. I'm going to have to work my way down to the small knives, I guess. Of those I now own, the Calypso Jr. is easily the most sheeple friendly one. I agree that the clean look of the flat grind and no teeth helps it a lot.

I do agree that handle color is probably a real factor. In addition to the 3 Spydercos I just got, I got a CRKT S-2. I think it would be less offensive to the sheeple types than the Apache which I just started carrying. Mostly because of that gray look, instead of the black.

Fairly high on my list is a blue Delica, or whatever color I can get. And, the Lum Chinese really appeals to me, and looks so different, I'd think that sheeple might not be so goofy about it.

Someday I'll work down to Dragonflys and Ladybugs.

Stare

[ftkinney]

i thought about this and themacguy has a point on a key ring obousely it is the tiny swiss army knife. but any knife on a key ring i think looks more like a utily item maybe even a knive like the cricket or copiolet ( i don't think the toad has a hole in the end).

FTK

[ftkinney]

sorry that multiple post thing.

Edited by - ftkinney on 6/3/2001 12:19:02 AM

[GronK]

It seems to me there are three aspects of knives that affect sheeples' perception of locking folders; size, color, and blade shape (not necessarily in that order). If it's small, colorful, shiny, and with standard clip-point or flat ground blade no one notices. If it's large and black with a hook shaped serrated edge, people stop and stare. Method of presentation also makes a difference. If you whip it out, "snap" the blade out, and assume your favorite fighting stance (you know, the one you've practiced in front of the mirror <img src="smile.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle>) someone just might take offense. On the other hand if you ease the knife out, thumb it open, do the cutting task at hand, fold it gently and put it away there's little chance it'll be noticed.

[Sheeple]

Amen to the above post!

I want (speaking as a sheeple) a
Ladybug: Brightly colored (blue, orange, red Barney-purple or Kelly-green), flat ground, plain-edged.

Dearest and Beloved Spyderco, is that too much to ask for?

[Clay Kesting]

I can't work out the way non-knife people are likely to respond to particular knives. Like Stare I thought the shape and colour of my Chinese Folder would make it unlikely to cause offence but the first time I used it in front of friends, the reaction was, "Ohmygod, is that thing legal." The strangest reaction happened when I had some friends to my house for a BBQ . They were all admiring my micarta Calypso Jr. which was open on the bench beside me doing cooking duties. That was until I closed it, when it suddenly turned into a "flick knife" and I became a knife carrying hooligan. Go figure <img src="smile.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle>.

Clay

Don't worry that the world might end tomorrow, in Australia it's tomorrow already.

[ftkinney]

Clay--that is real intresting i have the chinese folder and think the same thing. i thought "down under" was simar to a very big texas and carring a "skicker" on ones side was about as standard as a cowboy hat in dallas.



FTK

Edited by - ftkinney on 6/4/2001 4:24:43 PM

[scolby]

Recently, I was having appetizers with a client from the US Army Corps of Engineers and an a consulting engineer (I am an architect). Since there was very poor service at this particular restaurant and we needed a knife to split the order, I pulled out my plain edge Dragonfly to do the cuttin and my client asked me how I felt about carrying a concealed weapon! It is clear to me that here in California that among the professional crowd that ONLY a Swiss-Army knife is considered acceptable. Any knife with the following features are considered "weapons": 1) anything with a lock (the click scares people), 2) any serration of any kind, 3)anything other than a flat grind. I think that an Opinel small folder is about the only other acceptable knife to this crowd. I usually ask them if they have ever used a kitchen knife with a black handle. Not surprisingly, they all have. I remind them that more harm is done to people with very large kitchen knives than by all the small folders ever dreamed up. Usually, that helps put the issue in perspective. If someone knows of a statistical study that was done on that issue, I would be interested in hearing about it.

Looking forward to the Commemorative Worker and the Salsa.

[sal]

Hi Scolby. Welcome to the Spyderco forum.

sal

[ftkinney]

scholby--i'm suprided that an army engeener would say somthing like that but i guess army guys can be "rule guys". next time you could use your i'm an architect and being an artist we play by a diffent set of rules. besides frank gerry carries an autum folder.

FTK

[Mancer]

Definately the Civilian or Matriarch *Evil Sick Grin*, hehehehehe
hmmmm ok suppose I have to be serious now, guess I cant say the Chin as much as Id love to so Ill have to settle with the Native.

Happy Hunting

MaNcEr

It's Time To Kick @$$ 'N Chew Bubble Gum

[Clay Kesting]

FTK,

Not really all that surprising. As much as we like to portray ourselves as sun bronzed outdoorsmen living in the wide open Outback, we are actually one of the most urbanised western nations. Most of the population live in the cities on the eastern seaboard. I'm sure there are places where a knife doesn't surprise anybody but it certainly isn't amongst urban professionals <img src="smile.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle>.

Clay

Don't worry that the world might end tomorrow, in Australia it's tomorrow already.

[ftkinney]

i thought i might share this piece of "sheeple" information: i was at a outdoor hunting a sporting goods store and a costomer was thinking that the clip on the knife made it more a "weapon for easy access" than a utility knife i suggested you could always take the clip off? the woman at the counter produced a small philps screwdriver and did just that. he then bought the native he was looking at. i guess it destoyed the idea behind the "clip-it aspect" of a "clip-it" but to each his own. if the clip is a factor make sure people know they come off: more knives in "sheeple's" pockets. i personaly think the chinese folder would look beutifull as a "loose change" type knife if you wanted that type of knife.

clay i see that paul hogan has a new movie out show casing the outback aussie with a knife! this time in l.a. maybe next time he will use a chinook?

FTK