CHINOOK the Keating folding Bowie...

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Thanx all, as was said, JAK is very (Very) leery (gun shy) of any type of forum these days. It's 4/20/01..just peeking in. Very nice site. Preparing to attend the Eugene, OR show. Again, thank you all for the kind words and support. And watch for the new ROS tapes from Paladin. They are keepers 4 sure !
Sincerely, JAK
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Well, here's an unexpected honor/pleasure: getting to be the first one to respond to MAAJAK and welcome him to these Forums.

Consider yourself responded to and welcomed!

I understand the gun-shyness; I was a witness to the debacles for both you and Bram with your respective Forums. I hope civility and mutual respect will hold here. Drop in when you can, please, although what with COMTECH and MAAJAK WORLD (semi-shameless plugs) I suspect your time is strained.

I took the liberty of forwarding Greg's review of the Gunting seminar to Bram.

Hope to Riddle with you before one of us is too old for it. My best to Robert L. and the rest of the gang.

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Sigh...more training....
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Welcome JAK, Glad you found our forum...
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Whooooohooooo Yeah, JAK you are the king, been checking out ya knives online, what beutiful blades, very fond of the "Hornet" I think its called.

Welcome to the forum, I reckon you wont have the probs you had at the other forums here, the guys here seem to stickup for their own.
And if probs do occur Id simply suggest a ban on the offending IP for life.

Seeya guys, and once again welcome JAK
Seeya

Your #1 fan and #679 Chinook holder,lol

MaNcEr

It's Time To Kick @$$ 'N Chew Bubble Gum

Edited by - MaNcEr on 4/23/2001 12:38:53 AM
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Thanx everyone: The Eugene was big and a success (I think). The demo we did came off well, the audience was attentive and asked reasonable questions. Mr. Glesser, Peter and Joyce were in attendance too. Thanx for being there guys ! It was great speaking w/ you on the safety and liability issues that we are tackling together. It will make the entire industry better once we have set the precedences that are needed. This stuff goes much farther/deeper than hack and slash...many factors which a true professional must figure in to the picture.
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The Chinook is a GREAT knife. Yes, some have been negative regarding it's size etc...but those people are in the minority, 98% of the consumers are tickled silly with the Chinook.
After speaking with knifemakers for years I felt the design was fairly sound and decided to go with it. Ken Onion (The one and only) made the first, it is now in the hands of good brother Gary Mah. I settled on a later version made. Then along came a Spyder....and sat down beside her (the Chinook)..and here we are today. Muchos Gracias SG and crew for being you.
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EARLY THOUGHTS while fishing for Chinooks:
* Versatility
* Work oriented, deep belly
* Specific defensive duties
* I worked off of my initial design called a "Savannah Bowie"...a more radical, dramatic folder. (All tactical, no utilitarian value) and respun it into a Chinook.
* Defensively speaking the Chinook is designed around ONE primary function (In it's fullest capacity which is eight segments). That package is supported by five sub-actions. All in all, a simple, effective and highly DECEPTIVE defensive array that is easy to learn and apply.
* Chinook can work in reverse grip or standard grip.
* The lock must be able to withstand the forces we put a knife under..The current lock does that...
* The weight should compliment the stroke.
The weight and stroke must compliment the grip (it does)..these aspects compliment the path to victory.
* I once entertained the idea of wanting a small, light folding guard like some PUMAS have and some of the old stilletto type knives had. It would be useful, a one pin, pivoting type set up. but that one thing could spell trouble for those unfamiliar with it. So maybe another time..I still like..figure to make something like that..just not proper for a Chinook at this juncture.
* While not too dramatic in itself..Bowie is an old design afterall (Falchion, Scimitars, etc)..it's the KNOWLEDGE of how this type of knife is played which is the kicker here. Your skill/knowledge plays off the design. Many other designs have YOU playing off them..hmmm. (Remember, there is a difference between sinking and diving..to a person watching, they look identical. Except, one is unwanted (sink), the other is deliberate (dive)....one must remember the goal, the priz d'fer..and set their eyes upon the horizon. Obstacles are just what you see when you take your eyes off the goal.
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Thanx again all..hope this helps clarify some areas. Sincerely, JAK (TGK)
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TGK?
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The Giant Killer
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JAK: great to have you on board!...glad to hear that the demo went well..I had lunch with Poppa Spyder upon his return from Eugene where you guys were together and then left for Eugene..
Yes I know the shows over..
I'm checking out my brother...
Great descripition of the Chinooks developmental thoughts!!!

Hello to the gang!!

Hmmm a pivoting guard..very cool idea..
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JAK: Good to see you back online. It's been too long since the debacle at KF.

I USED TO BE DISGUSTED, BUT NOW I'M JUST AMUSED
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JAK,
An honor to have you here.We promise you the highest level of respect.
I love the chinook and carry it daily.Will there be a trainer,as with the gunting?Although formidable with it,I feel one is required to match weight and size,I can't seem to get it right with a homemade aluminum version re:Knifecraft/Reversgrip flow/flip and spin drills.That and it's way to sharp to play around with.
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we're working on training DRONES for the MBC knives as we speak..The CHINOOK is a top priority...
Without a functional DRONE how can we train properly!!!!!
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Hi James. thanx for visitin'.

I thought the demo went very well in Eugene. A fresh intelligent approach.

We're still refining the Chinook. Still a few things to work out before we make the drone.

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CHINOOK ~ 608

I am a young and clueless beginner. Just got my Chinook when I turned 21 on January 20, 2001. I got it for my disperse camping trips in the wilderness. I am glad to hear that it is an exceptionally good tactical weapon also.
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YEEESSS!!! JAK's back! Good to see your presence on the forums again Jim. MAAJAK world is kickin' some serious posterior...talk about "El Mundo de Comtech!" (Yeah, I have an XLR8TR or two laying around...)
The Chinook's come a long way since the line drawing we saw in FK back in '95, and it's just a classic, my daily carry piece..

Hope to get up to your neck of the woods sometime this year...

Ryan
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just read vancooks article and i couldnt agree with him more. i love the chinook. does anyone know of any more articles on the chinook?
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Hi MaNcEr, hi fellows,
my Chinook is #143V (plain edge), probably the
first one bought in Croatia.
Regards,

Franco G
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ive got chinook #469, cant stop talking about how much i love this knife. cant wait to get a gunting and a ayoob. looking forward to seeing whats next. does anyone know of any filipino martial arts schools in n.m.? any help would be appreciated.
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just rereading the forum and noticed jak. hope your back on soon, i love your knife. can you reccomend any special tapes or books to use it defensivly?
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