Culling time - need opinions

[Doc]

Sad to see Spydies go, but I guess we need room for new ones.
Here is my list
Police stainless
Harpy stainless
Snap-it
Remote Release
Native stainless
Delica trainer
Endura stainless
Toad
Massad Ayoob
Police tie clip
I was surprised to see so many votes for the Pro-Grip and the Shabaria.
Two of my favorites.

The winning is not the point.
It's the loving of the game.

[dsvirsky]

5. Endura Stainless handle
8. Delica stainless handle
17. Snap it
29. Calypso Jr. stainless handle
33. Bob Lum Tanto
35. Peter Herbst
40. Eduar Bradichansky Shabaria
41. Massad Ayoob
50. Police model necklace
51. Police model tie clip

[lokelani]

In no particular order.........

~1. Remote Release (keep Snap-It)
~2. Toad
~3. Dragonfly
~4. Zowada
~5. Rescue Jr.....black (keep the orange)
~6. Police Tie Clip
~7. Dyad Jr....black (keep the colors)
~8. ProGrip...serrated/lightweight (keep
the plainedge)
~9. J.D. Smith
~10. Police...lightweight (keep ss)

Aloha~
Patti

[Mr Blonde]

Here’s my list. Mostly based on what I like in a Spyderco. And on what my non-knifeknut friends seem to like on a knife.

- G10 Police: I feel that it is a ‘Militarized’ Police, ergo, a compromise. And the Military seems like a better vehicle for G10 and a full flat grind on a 4 inch blade. The SS police is a classic, and I suspect that sales for this model should still be acceptable, so keep it.

- Catherman (FRN): I don’t fish and it appears to specialized for anything else but fishing.

- Toad: I don’t ‘toad’ either <img src="wink.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle> . Seriously though, it looks ugly to me. For pure functionality and performance, the Mouse looks better to me.

- Endura SS: like was said before this thread, SS handles to me, work better for medium to small knives that look ‘pretty’. For that reason, I definitely would like to see the SS Dragonfly be kept in production.

- SS Harpy: for this model and the cutting action that it demands, I’d think that the SS may be too slippery. The FRN or G10 version seem to offer better and more reliable performance

- Pro-grip: SS & kraton, in a hunting knife seem, like a relatively poor compromise when compared to the Wegner.

- Co-pilot, I think that there are many other small knives in the line-up that can perform better and look better too. For example: SS Dragonfly, FRN Dragonfly, and Navigator.

- Ladybug 2: love the full serrations but hate the sheepsfoot point on this model. A fully serrated ladybug with a point is actually a pretty good idea, so is a full plain edge on these little wonders!

- Starmate: for pure function I would prefer the Military, but the Starmate is very pretty. How about taking that one step further? Starmate jr. with a G10 handle and a titanium bolster?

- Shabaria: a bit too extreme for me. I don’t see the functionality in this model, and I don’t think it’s nice to look at.

- Native 2: Neither pretty or more functional than the FRN Native.

- Tim Zowada: I think I’d prefer a Native with G10 handles to this one. The swedge seems a bit too extreme, taking away from the edge geometry of the primary grind.

I hope that we on the forum get a message when the final decisions on the culling are made? That way, we can quickly ‘stock up’ on our favorites before the dealers don’t have them anymore.

Thanks,

Wouter

[Jeff/1911]

Sal,

I would like to request that once you have made your decision, you let us know right away about the results. That way, I can quickly decide which of the discontinued models I simply "must" have and buy them before they're gone.

Thanks, Jeff/1911.

[Blades]

Ladybug II FRN handle (sheepfoot)
Native stainless handle
Native black FRN handle
Navigator
Police model necklace
Police model tie clip
Endura Stainless handle
Delica stainless handle
Massad Ayoob
Tim Zowada


Blades

[ceg]

5. Endura Stainless handle
7. Endura Trainer (red FRN)
10. Delica trainer (red FRN)
13. Pro Grip FRN/Kraton handle
16. Rescue Jr. black or orange FRN handle
17. Snap it
18. Remote Release
20. Dragonfly FRN handle
23. Ladybug II FRN handle (sheepfoot)
25. Dyad Micarta handle
26. Dyad jr FRN handle
27. Native stainless handle
29. Calypso Jr. stainless handle
37. Tim Zowada
38. D'Holder Toad
39. JD Smith
40. Eduar Bradichansky Shabaria
41. Massad Ayoob
42. James Keating Chinook
44. Frank Centofante Vesuvious
50. Police model necklace
51. Police model tie clip

[Mike V.]

My cull list.

1. police tie clip
2. police necklace
3. E. B. Spydercard
4. delica trainer
5. endura trainer
6. harpy stainless
7. d holder toad
8. E.B. Shabaria
9. Tim Zowada
10. Rescue Jr.

[Michael G73]

Hi Sal!

Just curious if you might have some information as to how our lists have shaped Spyderco's decisions for the year's lineup.

Thanks! (See, I want to make sure that if you're going to drop one of the knives I want, that I get it first). <img src="smile.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle> <img src="smile.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle> <img src="smile.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle>

[sal]

Hi Michael. We have the totals for the question, which was asked on 2 forums and sent to 100 distrutors and dealers.

I'll post the totals of the question as soon as my world slows down a bit (over the next few days).

However, I won't be posting the actual decisions until OCT when the new catalog is scheduled. Sorry. There are other factors that influence decisions besides the survey.

sal

[Allen E. Treat]

Dear Sal ;
I only came up with these 5 :

Police stainless handle

Harpy stainless handle

Snap-it

Remote Release

Dragonfly stainless handle

Sincerely,

A.E.T.

[clipiteer]

#2.-Police model G10 handle-Stainless model serves the same purpose but better

#10.-Delica trainer (red FRN)-Endura trainer works fine, not too much size difference

#18.-Remote Release-obviously not practical for EDC, don't think it's that popular either, though I may be wrong

#50.-Police model necklace-looks more like a toy or a piece of jewelry, also too small

#26.-Dyad Jr. FRN- big Dyad works fine

#29.-Calypso Jr. SS-stainless steel handle is fine, but the blade steel dooesn't compare to the VG10 of the FRN model

#13.-Pro-Grip FRN/Kraton-SS model works fine, looks cool too

#16.-Rescue Jr.-big model will suffice

Can't stand to see any more go!*sob* Anyway, here's 8 for retirement.
-clip

[formula44]

I'll post my list and then some reasons:
1. Police Stainless
2. Police G10
3. Endura Stainless
8. Delica Stainless
14. Catcherman
17. Snap-it
18. Remote Release
19. Dragonfly stainless
20. Dragonfly FRN
41. Massad Ayoob


The police models are great, but they are 4&1/8". That puts them 1/8" past a pocket knife in some areas. The Military, at 4" even, would be the knife for those areas.

Endura and Delica stainless are heavier than necessary. The pocket clip does not reverse.

Catcherman. I rarely have to fillet a fish in such a hurry I need a one-handed opening.

Snap-its and remote release are right handed only. The niche could be filled by an aftermarket shackle that replaces the clothing clip on the Rescues, Enduras, and Delicas. I find a small loop of string in the lanyard hole and an Uncle Mike's keyring snap on the belt works great on those occations I need to carry the knife outside my pocket.

Dragonflys are too difficult to open. I have big hands, but find the Ladybugs easier.

Massad Ayoob just looks wierd. Looks like its about to fold shut onto my fingers.

Speaking of fishing, I have noticed that those orange foam keyfloaters you can buy at the hardware store have enough boyancy to float a Delica, but not an Endura (lightweights). I would guess they could float a Rescue Jr, but maybe not a Rescue. Just something the other Spyder folks might find interesting.

[Paul C]

Sal;

I can see that alot of people are putting the snap-it and remote release on the cull list. The only thing I would like to say is that non-standard attachment mechanisms are a good thing for people that carry knives in different situations and getting rid of both of these would be a bad thing I think.

Just my thoughts.

Do you have the compliled data ready yet or will that be a couple more weeks?

Thanks

Paul

[sal]

Hi Paul. We have the data. I just haven't had the time to sit down and list the "opinions" on the forums. Keep nagging me.

sal

[Sword and Shield]

So what knives are going to be culled from the herd? If any knives I want are on the list, I might go to a knife dealer and ask for a discount since they will be discontinued.


Keepin' it real...real sharp, that is.

[blilious]

This is always a very tough one to answer:

14. Catcherman FRN handle
23. Ladybug II FRN handle (sheepfoot)
17. Snap it
26. Dyad jr FRN handle
28. Native black FRN handle
38. D'Holder Toad
39. JD Smith
41. Massad Ayoob
43. Bob Lum Chinese Folder
50. Police model necklace

In any case - these HAVE to stay:


33. Bob Lum Tanto
36. Bob Terzuola Starmate
37. Tim Zowada
40. Eduar Bradichansky Shabaria
44. Frank Centofante Vesuvious
45. Eduard Bradichansky Spydercard
48. Bram Frank Gunting
49. Bram Frank Gunting trainer



Edited by - Blilious on 7/21/2001 10:17:06 AM

[Alan2112]

The Harpy stainless, Merlin FRN, Ladybug, Ladybug 2, Dyad micarta, Dyad FRN, Viele, Toad, Shabaria, Tim Zowada> RKBA!

[Eagle1]

I remember how disappointed I was to see that the Wayne Goddard LTWT was being discontinued. (I wish I had bought more than two of the plain edged ones when I had the chance.) Hope this doesn't happen to any more of my favorites. Here are ones I can see go to make way for new and exciting future models.

#3 Harpy SS- too heavy IMO
#12 Pro Grip SS- like FRN better
#14 Catcherman-unless you put a reversible clip on it!!!
#16 Rescue Jr.-bigger is better
#17 Snap It-don't like sheepsfoot version, isn't pointed one already discontinued?
#19 Dragonfly SS- too heavy, FRN better IMO
#25 Dyad Micarta- looks slippery, never held one though
#27 Native SS-FRN version is perfect!
#40 Shabaria- Never really appealed to me
#29 Calypso Jr. SS-too heavy, slippery

I'm sure some will disagree but as you can tell by my choices I prefer FRN or G-10 to any steel or aluminum handles. They've got a better grip to me and I've never had an FRN fail.

Eagle1