So what does this mean for a Spyderco auto..

[greencobra]

Found this on the Boker forum at BF, maybe some of you have seen it. Would this kill plans for the sepculative SpyderAuto that was talked about as the 100th? (talked about by forum members, not Spyderco itself)

And for the record, I posted the statement below without permission. Hope that doesn't cause problems.



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Boker and auto knives

I guess it's time to officially state Boker USAs legal position
on automatic (switchblade) knives.

Due to import laws, it is illegal for us to import automatic knives.
It is against Federal law for us to bring them in, or have parts for them.
Also, the Top Locks and Magnum lines that are button locks are brought in non-automatic. It is also against State law here in Colorado for us to
have them, or work on them.

On the consumers end, it is against Federal law to transport them across state lines, or use the postal service to mail them.

I hate to say it, but our hands are tied as far as these knives go.
Thanks,
TJT

[Vincent]

Probrolly the reason we dont have one already.

Thogh i bet there are some loop holes which are allowing spyderco to work on an auto,

Either mr. Blond, Uk ken or senate, said they handles a proto

[UK KEN]

Probrolly the reason we dont have one already.

Thogh i bet there are some loop holes which are allowing spyderco to work on an auto,

Either mr. Blond, Uk ken or senate, said they handles a proto

Vincent

Not me! I'd love to but it will never happen in the UK.

Ken

[RWL]

Found this on the Boker forum at BF, maybe some of you have seen it. Would this kill plans for the sepculative SpyderAuto that was talked about as the 100th? (talked about by forum members, not Spyderco itself)

And for the record, I posted the statement below without permission. Hope that doesn't cause problems.



--------------------------------------------------------------------------
Boker and auto knives

I guess it's time to officially state Boker USAs legal position
on automatic (switchblade) knives.

Due to import laws, it is illegal for us to import automatic knives.
It is against Federal law for us to bring them in, or have parts for them.
Also, the Top Locks and Magnum lines that are button locks are brought in non-automatic. It is also against State law here in Colorado for us to
have them, or work on them.

On the consumers end, it is against Federal law to transport them across state lines, or use the postal service to mail them.

I hate to say it, but our hands are tied as far as these knives go.
Thanks,
TJT

I believe TJT from Boker should have stated a little more clearly who the consumer is, depending on who is buying any automatic knife here in America it is not illegal to transport them across state lines and or use the USPS to send automatic knives. I think most people know LEO can obtain auto's as well as fire and emt personal as well as any current military personal. Also authorized licensed dealers can also obtain automatic knives legally, I know of 2 dealers here in Ohio that carry automatic knives to sell to LEO.

Anyway I hope Spyderco still is planning on coming out with the automatic knife, it might not be very popular with the faithful Spyderco followers, but I believe there are enough people out there that love auto's just because they are auto's that will buy the knife

[MojoRising]

I'm once again happy to live in the Sunshine State! We can own and carry any auto we choose. Interstate transport still applies to the civvies but carry isn't restricted in the least. Unless you have a desire to carry a knife that shoots a projectile blade.....not a huge issue with me.

[Slvgx]

I'm not interested in owning an auto, seems more trouble than it's worth here in Chicago, but I'm sure there are loopholes and ways for Spyderco to make them legally, I doubt this is something that just slipped by Sal.

[TurnerIII]

why its not an auto officer....its a "spring assisted" !! :D


I enjoy playing with my Kershaws - and I would sure love to see a Spydie version!!

[note I am speaking about a spring assisted and indeed not an "auto" ]

[Senate]

IIRC Spyderco isn't trying to find a loophole but more like changing the law to be able to manufacture an auto legally in Colorado.
if you got a street with your name, maybe you can have some privileges...

[nominoe]

are automatic knives really more dangerous or quick to deploy than others?
a good one hand opening knife can be ready to cut as fast as an auto in my sense. And what about fixed blades?

i think allowing locking blades but banning autos is nonsense.


Ii'm not very fond of automatics, i don't trust them to be resistant enough for hard use. although i've heard microtech makes very good ones.

[Zwaplat]

are automatic knives really more dangerous or quick to deploy than others?
a good one hand opening knife can be ready to cut as fast as an auto in my sense. And what about fixed blades?

i think allowing locking blades but banning autos is nonsense.


Ii'm not very fond of automatics, i don't trust them to be resistant enough for hard use. although i've heard microtech makes very good ones.

Sheeple, you know. OMG, AUTOMATIC KNIFE OF DOOM, WITH EVIL LASER!!! RUN!!!

[speyederlover]

I have a benchmade auto mini stryker. It's a good knife. It has a safety lock so you can not accidently deploy it in your pocket. But, I have some spydies I can whip open just as fast if not faster if you consider the safety lock. It is kind of cool to just push the button and watch the blade open. Also, I think that autos that are side open are not a big deal. They are very similar to assisted opening knives. The front opening autos like the ones Microtech makes are the real deal. This is the auto that most sheeple think of when they think of a "switchblade" or auto knife. They are impressive.

[MojoRising]

Here is my Microtech HALO III. I carry it in a kydex rig fairly often.
<img src=http://www.glocktalk.com/attachment.php ... id=4902792>

A Spyderco auto would be a definite must have!

[MojoRising]

And a little more tame auto. Microtech Mini UMS. It's a great knife but just a little too small for EDC.
<img src=http://www.glocktalk.com/attachment.php ... id=4901820>

Please Sal, make a Spydie auto...

[smcfalls13]

a good one hand opening knife can be ready to cut as fast as an auto in my sense.

Shhh....dont say that too loudly, or the sheeple will catch on to this often overlook tidbit of information, and ban all one handed opening knives as well.

It's true though, most of us here can probably open a :spyder: as fast, if not faster, than an auto.

[BlackNinja]

I'm once again happy to live in the Sunshine State! We can own and carry any auto we choose. Interstate transport still applies to the civvies but carry isn't restricted in the least. Unless you have a desire to carry a knife that shoots a projectile blade.....not a huge issue with me.

I could be mistaken, but in CA you can carry an auto, if it has a blade length of 1" or less. I live in NY, and if you get caught with an auto or gravity knife you better get a lawyer. Min penalty (where I live) is a $1000 fine, and possable jail time. I have seen some nice Microtech autos and was very tempted to buy one but it can't be an EDC cause of the law . It would just sit on my shelf. Personnally, I am not a big fan of autos (although I do own one), I can deploy most of my folders as fast or faster than my auto. BTW very nice pics.

[Sundown]

I could be mistaken, but in CA you can carry an auto, if it has a blade length of 1" or less.

Yep, you are mistaken, "less than 2 inches" is the correct length pursuant to 653k PC.

Best wishes,
Sundown

[BlackNinja]

Yep, you are mistaken, "less than 2 inches" is the correct length pursuant to 653k PC.

Best wishes,
Sundown

Thanks Sundown, I knew it was something crazy like that. Why would you carry a 2" auto when you could carry a Milli

[Sundown]

[quote="BlackNinja"]Thanks Sundown, I knew it was something crazy like that. Why would you carry a 2" auto when you could carry a Milli ]

It sure is a crazy law! I know what you mean, I'd rather carry a Spyderco (any Spyderco) than most < 2" autos, although Protech does make some cool looking "CA legal" autos. :)

Best wishes,
Sundown