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Re: Vivi's Others

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For years I preferred the SRK to the Recon Tanto, but lately the Recon has really been growing on me.

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The more I use it as a general purpose outdoors knife the more I like it.

- Enough mass to chop cut stuff which is faster than carving points.

- Enough length to make a decent pocket machete.

- With a thinned out edge it makes some killer feather sticks.

- Stout tip is great for prying apart fatwood stumps and opening canned food.

- The design is fantastic for batoning wood to process into kindling.

Just got the green one in. Planning to strip it then polish it up real nice, then take the edge up to 5,000 grit.

Wish they'd do another run in 3V with the current design that has the edge closer to the handle. I'd be all over those. As it is I might try one of the japanese VG1 versions for the extra corrosion resistance & edge holding.
SpyderEdgeForever wrote:
Mon Nov 17, 2025 11:11 pm
Vivi here is another one. China made Mora like. Tell me what you think:

https://www.knifecountryusa.com/store/p ... ndles.html

It comes with a fire stick.
420 steel
thanks for the heads up but I generally avoid chinese products.
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Re: Vivi's Others

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stripped the OD green tanto. Still have some polishing to do before I'm done.


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vivi wrote:
Fri Nov 28, 2025 11:32 pm
For years I preferred the SRK to the Recon Tanto, but lately the Recon has really been growing on me.

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The more I use it as a general purpose outdoors knife the more I like it.

- Enough mass to chop cut stuff which is faster than carving points.

- Enough length to make a decent pocket machete.

- With a thinned out edge it makes some killer feather sticks.

- Stout tip is great for prying apart fatwood stumps and opening canned food.

- The design is fantastic for batoning wood to process into kindling.
I'm 100% with you on the Recon Tanto. I've always liked its looks, but never had a reason to buy one. I recently found one on closeout for $25 and bought it as a gardening knife. Now it's indispensable. It cuts and chops, and I can dig with it and not feel guilty. A few Sharpmaker strokes and it's ready to go again.
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Re: Vivi's Others

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yep, SK5 sharpens up super fast, and the size / weight gives them a little more versatility than smaller, lighter knives.

CKW has the desert tan and orange for just under $30 right now. Trying to hold off on ordering any more but at that price it's easy to want to collect all the colors.
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Happy with how it looks and performs. Used it to de-bark some wood and hack through some hawthorn branches.
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polished up one of my SRKC's, and took the edge thinner:

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Re: Vivi's Others

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vivi wrote:
Thu Jan 08, 2026 9:57 am
polished up one of my SRKC's, and took the edge thinner:

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That is a really good looking knife man - just shows what a bit of love can do for a tool.

I had a Recon Tanto that I’d barely used (I have way too many knives) so I gifted it to a non-knife owner buddy for a work tool and he absolutely loves it. It’s such a solid design and as you pointed out earlier it is super friendly to sharpen. I’ve been eyeing the 3V version of the SRK but I just can’t justify buying one - I have so many great knives in that size and intended use range - BRKs, customs, etc, but still the niggling urge to get one persists 🫠

Feel free to convince me 🤪
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Re: Vivi's Others

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JoviAl wrote:
Tue Jan 13, 2026 5:33 pm
That is a really good looking knife man - just shows what a bit of love can do for a tool.

I had a Recon Tanto that I’d barely used (I have way too many knives) so I gifted it to a non-knife owner buddy for a work tool and he absolutely loves it. It’s such a solid design and as you pointed out earlier it is super friendly to sharpen. I’ve been eyeing the 3V version of the SRK but I just can’t justify buying one - I have so many great knives in that size and intended use range - BRKs, customs, etc, but still the niggling urge to get one persists 🫠

Feel free to convince me 🤪
Thanks! I've been stripping these for years but never bothered polishing them up until recently.

Here's my users at the moment:

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I used to never use my recon tantos either in favor of the SRK, but starting last summer it's been the opposite for me. The Recon Tantos extra length and weight makes it better for hacking at undergrowth to keep trails maintained, batoning wood for fires, and other rougher use tasks.

The SRK is still a great design and the 3V version has been my only knife on multiple backpacking trips in the mountains and I've never had any complaints. I just realized the Recon Tanto suits how I use these sorts of knives better.

I like using them as do it all tools on my trips where I typically carry nothing but a stout fixed blade and a compact folding saw....either a bahco laplander or a small sven saw. I usually leave axes, hatchets, machetes and choppers at home unless I'm car camping.

The SRK has a swedge, and on the 3V version it's sharpened too. So that combined with the shorter length makes them a little worse for batoning than the tanto. That slight upwards curve and thick point help too.

I've neglected SRKC's for the past couple of years in favor of SRK's and Temperance 1 & 2's,but lately I've gotten back into them. I put fresh edges on 3 of them - the polished convexed FDE, a stripped and heavily reprofiled pre-gsm black, and a green that still has the coating for now.

The convexed one has been coming with me on day hikes to my camping spot in my woods and helping me make fires. The green one has been an EDC the last couple of weeks and does fire prep in the backyard. I've grown to really like them for day to day carry rather than strictly outdoors usage.

I lucked out with the 3V SRK's and got them for something like $75 + shipping. That's just an absurd deal for a quality made 3V fixed blade. Most companies would charge more than that for a comparably sized knife made out of 1095 - see Condor, ESEE, etc. So I bought 3.

The SRK definitely embodies jack of all trades, master of none to me. It's too thick to be the best dedicated slicer out there, but a little short and light to be a good chopper. Bit long, bulky and heavy for my EDC tastes.

That said it's a great design that can handle just about any outdoors task.

The hollow ground SK5 versions can be pretty mean slicers with a thinned out edge. The one I'm going to show below, a pre-gsm stripped SK5 SRK, it keeps up with scandi ground Moras on wood carving, and does well on most foods. Used it to halve some cantaloupe,slice up watermelons, cut steaks etc. and it does well

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The 3V has a flat grind which gives it more weight, better for chopping and other rougher tasks. I've used mine to trim up fallen trees on hiking trails along the NC/TN border area where hurricane helene did some damage. It's not gonna chop through the main trunk of something like this, but it can swiftly cut off the limbs to make climbing under or over easier:

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I'm still working on figuring out the best edge thickness for that one. I reprofiled it to a saber convex instead of saber flat, but the apex is still a bit thicker than I like for carving wood.

Any knife too small to be a dedicated chopper that I carry outdoors has to carve well close to the level of a Mora for me to want to carry it. I only cook over wood fires, and also use them for warmth, and making wood shavings or feather sticks is a fun and relaxing excuse to use all my nice fixed blades. So I take most down to the 9-12dps range so the apex compares with the 11.5dps mora edges.

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There's an up to date picture. The 3V SRK and my Condor Mountain Pass Camp Knife are next up to get thinner edges. Neither have been seeing much use since summer since they lack the carving ability of the others I thinned out more, like the SRKC's I recently worked on and that black SRK with the thinnest edge out of all my SRK's. I also have a green and black unstripped SRK that I reprofiled on my belt sander that's in between the black one and the 3V.

Sorry to ramble so much.

To sum it up:

I'm a huge fan of all three designs.

If I'm carrying one knife into the wilderness for an overnighter or longer, my first choice these days is the Recon Tanto, and SRK is #2.

If weight is more of a concern, I'd pick the SK5 SRK or an SRKC.

For EDC, or trips where I'm bringing a machete or axe to supplement a knife, I'd go with an SRKC.

Any 3 of them could handle any task I do for EDC or out in the wilds, but they each have their pros and cons.
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Re: Vivi's Others

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vivi wrote:
Tue Jan 13, 2026 8:47 pm
JoviAl wrote:
Tue Jan 13, 2026 5:33 pm
That is a really good looking knife man - just shows what a bit of love can do for a tool.

I had a Recon Tanto that I’d barely used (I have way too many knives) so I gifted it to a non-knife owner buddy for a work tool and he absolutely loves it. It’s such a solid design and as you pointed out earlier it is super friendly to sharpen. I’ve been eyeing the 3V version of the SRK but I just can’t justify buying one - I have so many great knives in that size and intended use range - BRKs, customs, etc, but still the niggling urge to get one persists 🫠

Feel free to convince me 🤪
Thanks! I've been stripping these for years but never bothered polishing them up until recently.

Here's my users at the moment:

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I used to never use my recon tantos either in favor of the SRK, but starting last summer it's been the opposite for me. The Recon Tantos extra length and weight makes it better for hacking at undergrowth to keep trails maintained, batoning wood for fires, and other rougher use tasks.

The SRK is still a great design and the 3V version has been my only knife on multiple backpacking trips in the mountains and I've never had any complaints. I just realized the Recon Tanto suits how I use these sorts of knives better.

I like using them as do it all tools on my trips where I typically carry nothing but a stout fixed blade and a compact folding saw....either a bahco laplander or a small sven saw. I usually leave axes, hatchets, machetes and choppers at home unless I'm car camping.

The SRK has a swedge, and on the 3V version it's sharpened too. So that combined with the shorter length makes them a little worse for batoning than the tanto. That slight upwards curve and thick point help too.

I've neglected SRKC's for the past couple of years in favor of SRK's and Temperance 1 & 2's,but lately I've gotten back into them. I put fresh edges on 3 of them - the polished convexed FDE, a stripped and heavily reprofiled pre-gsm black, and a green that still has the coating for now.

The convexed one has been coming with me on day hikes to my camping spot in my woods and helping me make fires. The green one has been an EDC the last couple of weeks and does fire prep in the backyard. I've grown to really like them for day to day carry rather than strictly outdoors usage.

I lucked out with the 3V SRK's and got them for something like $75 + shipping. That's just an absurd deal for a quality made 3V fixed blade. Most companies would charge more than that for a comparably sized knife made out of 1095 - see Condor, ESEE, etc. So I bought 3.

The SRK definitely embodies jack of all trades, master of none to me. It's too thick to be the best dedicated slicer out there, but a little short and light to be a good chopper. Bit long, bulky and heavy for my EDC tastes.

That said it's a great design that can handle just about any outdoors task.

The hollow ground SK5 versions can be pretty mean slicers with a thinned out edge. The one I'm going to show below, a pre-gsm stripped SK5 SRK, it keeps up with scandi ground Moras on wood carving, and does well on most foods. Used it to halve some cantaloupe,slice up watermelons, cut steaks etc. and it does well

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The 3V has a flat grind which gives it more weight, better for chopping and other rougher tasks. I've used mine to trim up fallen trees on hiking trails along the NC/TN border area where hurricane helene did some damage. It's not gonna chop through the main trunk of something like this, but it can swiftly cut off the limbs to make climbing under or over easier:

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I'm still working on figuring out the best edge thickness for that one. I reprofiled it to a saber convex instead of saber flat, but the apex is still a bit thicker than I like for carving wood.

Any knife too small to be a dedicated chopper that I carry outdoors has to carve well close to the level of a Mora for me to want to carry it. I only cook over wood fires, and also use them for warmth, and making wood shavings or feather sticks is a fun and relaxing excuse to use all my nice fixed blades. So I take most down to the 9-12dps range so the apex compares with the 11.5dps mora edges.

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There's an up to date picture. The 3V SRK and my Condor Mountain Pass Camp Knife are next up to get thinner edges. Neither have been seeing much use since summer since they lack the carving ability of the others I thinned out more, like the SRKC's I recently worked on and that black SRK with the thinnest edge out of all my SRK's. I also have a green and black unstripped SRK that I reprofiled on my belt sander that's in between the black one and the 3V.

Sorry to ramble so much.

To sum it up:

I'm a huge fan of all three designs.

If I'm carrying one knife into the wilderness for an overnighter or longer, my first choice these days is the Recon Tanto, and SRK is #2.

If weight is more of a concern, I'd pick the SK5 SRK or an SRKC.

For EDC, or trips where I'm bringing a machete or axe to supplement a knife, I'd go with an SRKC.

Any 3 of them could handle any task I do for EDC or out in the wilds, but they each have their pros and cons.
Not a ramble at all buddy, I enjoyed reading it 👍🏻

They’re certainly a versatile knife. I’d love one in something really rust proof - I wonder if they’ll get on the Magnacut band wagon at any point, because that would be an outstanding tool for my purposes. I’ve considered the Magnacut BK Campanion but it’s a lot of cash to drop on something that by all accounts cuts about as well as a house brick.
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Re: Vivi's Others

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-Review of my Cold Steel Air Lite-


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The Cold Steel Air Lite is the newest addition to my collection. I paid $40.27 + $6.83 shipping for a grand total of $47.10 to my mailbox from CKW.


The knife is simple in construction. Two thin linerless G10 scales, a solid backspacer, AUS10 drop point blade, pocket clip drilled for left or right hand tip up, and the parts needed for the tri-ad lock.

The goal behind this purchase was to find a fully modernized lockback knife with one handed operation and a clip, that enabled the hand to get as close to possible to the cutting edge, with no index choil.

It really reminds me of the large mercator K55 knife, but modernized. They are extremely close to one another overall:

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This knife is a departure from my usual EDC lockbacks in some ways as I'll discuss below, but it achieves the goal I had in mind better than any other design I found.

As you can see in the following comparison shots, the kick is much smaller than a Pacific Salt 1's kick:

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The handle design also gets my hand closer to the edge. That combined with the minimal kick lets the knife offer better leverage without using a choil:

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This is something I would really like to see in more Spyderco designs.

Index choils aren't as comfortable to use for me.

An issue they present is restricting my thumb from its natural position on most Spydercos, as they tend to have large humps on the spine to help fit in the opening hole.

So I would never carve wood or cut triple wall cardboard, or some other task where I'm pressing fairly hard on the blade with a Police with my finger in the index choil and my thumb on the thumb ramp.

Which forces me to choose between gaining better leverage or having a comfortable position for my thumb, but worse leverage.

A handle design like this eliminates that issue. That's why I want to see more of them from my favorite knife company. They work better for me.

In fact compare how close the edge is to my grip on the Air Lite and the Police 3, an all time favorite of mine:

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I've used the Air Lite for a bit now doing different tasks around the house like opening mail, cutting cardboard boxes, making feather sticks, slicing open blister packs, trimming threads, piercing plastic bags, poking holes in a plastic container to make a make shift funnel, scraping things, etc.

I have mostly positive things to say about it, but there are some negatives.

The action felt a little gritty during the first 1/4th of the opening arc. It smoothed out after some use and cleaning out the pivot, but right out of the box it wasn't as good as it usually is from Cold Steel.

The blade came functionally sharp, but only just scrape shaving. Not quite as sharp as I expect from Cold Steel, who's edges typically cleanly shave and sometimes tree top hair. It worked just fine for the utility tasks I've put the blade through though, and would impress most consumers with its sharpness.

I have not bothered to modify the edge at all, as I prefer to use factory edges until I dull them before reprofiling knives. This helps me get familiar with the overall geometry and decide how thin I'll want to take it. I'm going to aim for around 10dps with a 15dps microbevel on this one I think, as I have plenty of other folders for heavier duty tasks I've run a bit thicker.

The factory edge was a little uneven. Going with a casual eyeball estimate, the back side looks around 13-15 degrees, while the show side looks around 20-22 degrees per side.

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It cut just fine in most materials, besides wood.

When using a knife to carve wood I like the show side edge angle to be around 10-13 degrees. 15-20 degrees can still carve okay, but it requires me to angle the knife in a way that makes the task less comfortable. So the thick show side factory edge with the thin handle meant I'd much rather make feather sticks with a Voyager, 4 Max or Buck 110 than this knife right out of the box.

Of course, after reprofiling the edge will carve fine. The overall geometry is nice. It strikes a good balance between cutting ability and durability with its high saber ground and relatively stout tip. Here's a good look at both:

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The flat saber grind. I believe Tanto versions sport a hollow grind, and I know their tips come a little thicker behind the edge.

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Once I thin out the edge bevel, the overall geometry will really shine. It's thinner behind the edge than my Recons, 4 Max's, Frenzies etc.

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The blade steel is AUS10, which I'm a big fan of. Performance isn't far off from Spydercos VG10.

While edge holding monsters are the current hot trend, I find myself really enjoying a lot of 1990's and 2000's commonly used stainless steels. They're tough, corrosion resistant, sharpen incredibly easily, and tend to work well with thin edge angles.

I've used the steel extensively in multiple 4 max scouts and Voyager XL's. It has held up to heavy duty tasks like full arm swing chopping branches, and batoning 2-4" sections of wood with thinned out edges. It has shown zero edge rolling or chipping for me. Even with a ~13dps edge with 15dps microbevel the 4 max scout has no issue with this rough use.

I can't really stress enough how I use these folders harder than a lot of folks use fixed blades of this size and they've taken it in stride. I keep an AUS10 Tanto XL Voyager in my disc golf bag as a dedicated folding machete for helping extract friends errant throws from briars patches etc. All it does it chop through wood and thorns. No edge damage at all, ever.

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It takes a very crisp and sharp edge with extremely little effort. My 4 max consistently gets tree topping sharp with just a few strokes on a sharpmaker or ceramic bench stone. Not even sure the last time I sharpened it, and testing the edge it sends arm hairs flying with ease.

I know a lot of folks these days turn their nose up at stuff like Buck's 420hc, AUS8 and AUS10 Cold Steels, 154CM, and VG10 Spydercos, but I think these are some of the best steels for EDC's. They can take abuse even when running thin edges, they sharpen up so fast and easily, they're tough to rust and they hold an edge well enough for most day to day stuff.

So while I don't have a done of work with the Air Lite under my belt, I expect to really like the blade performance. I know the steel well, and it's ability to hold a thin edge angle coupled with the thinner than typical for cold steel geometry will make a heck of a slicer once I reprofile it. As it stands it cuts really well with the factory edge, and most people, even knife enthusiasts, would be well pleased with the out of box cutting performance.



While the Air Lite is thinner than I prefer for hard work, one advantage of the design is it fits easily in the dedicated knife pocket of the tru spec pants I like wearing.

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This photo also shows the clip carries pretty deep. Any deeper and I'd complain about it, as I like about 1/2 to 3/4" sticking out above the clip. Most people will enjoy that aspect of the design though.


Most Spydercos and a lot of Cold Steel knives won't fit there due to their closed width.

That is one reason I toyed with the idea of the American Lawman as a work carry, because it does.

While the Lawman is a nice knife, I hate the generous index choil, as it shortens the cutting edge way below my preferred length and provides no advantages to make the trade off worth it. I don't need any extra control on such a small knife, and the regular grip locks my hand in place perfectly fine.

Here's the Lawman and Air Lite compared:

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You can see the Air Lite offers much more edge with a nearly identical handle size. Another point in favor of dropping choils.

I cannot overstate how much I have grown to prefer knives designed like the Air Lite vs the Lawman in this respect. I gain a half inch of edge in the part that offers the best leverage, and the handle feels roomier in the grip I actually use.

One thing that stands out to me about this knife is the pocket clip is pretty long compared to the handle:

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Not an issue for me, but it stood out as unusual to me.

Also, the clip works great right out of the box. Cold Steel is notorious for users often needing to tweak the clips to get them working ideally.

For example, on my 4 Max Scout and Voyager XL I had to loosen the clip tension slightly and sand under the clip on the handle scale to get them working exactly as I wanted. Here's my go to 4 Max Scout:

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On my Recon folders I don't have to sand them but I do have to take the clips off and bend the end upwards more to give them more clearance to slide on to a pocket. Here's my most used Recon:

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To their credit I prefer clips too tight than too loose. It's an easier fix in my experience.


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This one needs no sanding on the scales, no bending the clip with pliers, and no adjusting the tension. It works well. I may adjust the very end slightly at some point, because it may be set a bit low for IWB carry in running shorts, but I'll cross that bridge when I get there.

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The knife is very slim overall. Too slim for a hard use knife, though it definitely seems capable of any folding knife task. If I knew I'd be doing a lot of heavy cutting, I would certainly choose a Recon, Voyager or 4 Max over it for their thick, ergonomic handles.

That's the main issue I have when it comes to ergonomics. It's just too thin for harder work. Great in the pocket, but too slim for my preferences during use.

Otherwise it's fine ergonomically. Not great, not bad, but fine. There's no hot spots, nothing offensive about the handle. It's comfortable in a variety of grips. It just doesn't immediately wow me like the 4 Max and Recon folders did the first time I held them.

I do want to praise how close it gets my hand to the edge. That makes a big difference in cutting comfort, because tasks can be completed while applying less effort to the handle.

I also like the lack of a thumb ramp.

It's nice ergonomically, it's just that I own at least 3 Spydercos, 3 Cold Steels and various Buck 110's that are clearly more comfortable for my grip.

However a knife this slim and light can make a good general purpose EDC, as it's very unobtrusive when carried, and robust enough for any typical day to day task. It's a good jack of all trades style pattern, and one can always keep a beefy folder or fixed blade in their pack or glove box for use as needed.

Personally I don't mind carrying something a little more robust like a Recon folder day to day, but I think a lot of folks here that primarily carry Endelas, Delicas, Natives etc. would appreciate this design a lot more than a 4 Max or Frenzy.

This is a very simple, no frills design but it does just about everything right. Thin, light, unobtrusive, good blade length, not too small not too big, not expensive but not poorly made.

In fact I think this could be the gateway knife for a lot of people that haven't gotten into Cold Steel.

They're primarily known for their overbuilt, hard use knives, but as they've shown with the Air Lite, American Lawman and Tuff Lite lines, they can make a good compact every day carry.

Plus with a street price of $40-65 depending on where you shop and which version you buy, you're not going to see much competition out there for modern folders that isn't made in china.

The knife is a very good value. I'm not sure if its higher tolerances,lower sales volume, better QC or what that creates such a difference in street prices between taiwan made Cold Steels and Spydercos, but it's something I wonder about.

I know I'm not alone when I say I'd throw cash at Sal without a second thought if Spyderco released a well designed G10 & VG10 lockback made in Taiwan with a street price under $100, much less $50. *shrug*

Before I end the review, some comparisons are in order. Here is the Air Lite vs a lot of other folders, comparing their thickness.

Air Lite vs 4 Max and Recon

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Air Lite VS Buck 110 and Mercator K55

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Air Lite VS Police 3 and American Lawman

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One last thing to touch on - closing the knife.

Now a lot has been said in general discussion about how a kick needs to be of a certain size for people to use a certain closing method popular with lockbacks - one I don't particularly understand the fascination with.

This knife works just fine for that closing method:



It works well using my preferred closing method for lockbacks:



And, unsurprisingly, it's a bit tricky to close without your fingers in the path of the blade closing, like most all tri-ad lock knives:



Which is fine with me. Like I said I prefer closing them with my index finger guiding the blade shut. I like how deep tri-ad locks engage and would gladly sacrifice some ease of closing for that lock security.

I've taken apart a lot of lockbacks, and some Buck's and Spydercos only have 1-1.5mm of blade tang to lock face engagement under the hood. That doesn't feel very reassuring to me when doing hard piercing cuts, like poking a hole in a 5 gallon bucket.

In fact I've sold certain knives because the lock engagement was less than other examples I have of the same knife. That was the fate of the waved Pacific Salt I made. I just don't trust a lockback with a fingernails worth of engagement, and that one barely had 1mm of engagement.

An easy way to get a ballpark idea of lock engagement is look at how high the lock bar sits right before the lock engages:

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That's about 1.5-2mm for the Police 3, and around 6-7mm for the Air Lite.

Of course to truly see how much engagement is, you must take the knife apart. This just gives you a rough idea.

Most tri-ad locks have more like 5mm+ of engagement coupled with a stiffer spring, which makes for a very secure lock.

I also enjoy how tri-ads tend to exhibit zero play or lock rock. Even my BD1 Voyager XL that I've been using as a folding machete / chopper for close to a decade.

While I've learned to live with it on Spydercos, ultimately I have to question why a $250 Police folder has more blade play than a $30-40 knife from other companies.

So to sum it up, while the Air Lite didn't exactly blow me away in any one particular area, it does certain things incredibly well:

- Excellent edge to handle ratio, very little wasted space
- Minimal kick and good handle design create better leverage than 95% of lockbacks on the market
- Very thin and light, making it easy to carry
- Quality build at a very fair price


It won't be my most carried folder, but I do give it two thumbs up. I like it.
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Thanks for a great review. The knife isn't for me, but I always appreciate your thoughts and ability to explain and communicate them in an easily understandable way.
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cabfrank wrote:
Tue Feb 24, 2026 2:27 am
Thanks for a great review. The knife isn't for me, but I always appreciate your thoughts and ability to explain and communicate them in an easily understandable way.
Thank you for the kind words.

While I am more likely to reach for a tankier knife, carrying the Air Lite for a week gave me a better understanding of the super thin and light pocket knife appeal. It makes a lot of sense for people who don't do physical labor and use their knives sparingly for brief tasks.
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Vivi once I get a SharpMaker do you think I can use it to get Buck 420HC steel razor sharp?
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SpyderEdgeForever wrote:
Thu Feb 26, 2026 9:37 pm
Vivi once I get a SharpMaker do you think I can use it to get Buck 420HC steel razor sharp?
Yes. 420hc is one of the easiest steels to sharpen to shaving sharpness. It's a pleasure to work with.

It'll make keeping your serrated knives very sharp easier than anything else as well. There's other ways you can sharpen serrations in a pinch, but there's nothing else I'd recommend more for routine use.

Picking up diamond or CBN rods down the road would be worth the investment if you do not have a good way to set bevels. Using them on the 15 degree slots then doing touch ups with the brown or white rods at 20 degrees mean you can touch up a knife in under a minute flat.

Alternatively you can free hand bevels just under 15 or 20 degrees then use the sharpmaker to microbevel and get similar results.
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Air Lite update:

- Cutting performance is really nice with a thinned out edge. Took it to about 12dps, will probably try thinner later on. The AUS10 blade felt a touch tougher to grind than my others, like it was run a tiny bit harder.

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- I continue to hate flat head screws on thumb studs. They always give me trouble. I guess I need to invest in a soldering iron. I tried dunking the knife in boiling water to loosen it up and I still nearly broke my screwdriver bit before it slipped out. Whatever loc-tite they're using for these is heavy duty stuff.

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- Action is very smooth now, as good as my other lockbacks / tri-ad lock folders.

I have a green Buck 110 Slim coming in the mail. I may compare the two once it arrives. On paper they share a lot of specs.
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Posting some Buck 110 Slim Select first impressions. Will write more about it as I carry and use it.

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Specs. It's a bit lighter than a Pacific Salt saber grind.

I love the insert that ships with the knife:

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Go back and read it again. It's a beautiful message :usflag

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Compared to some other thin folders in the same size class, along with a regular Buck 110.

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Thicker than the Cold Steel Air Lite, much thinner than the original 110.

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Blade length, edge length, handle length and handle thickness - all very comparable to Pacific Salts.

One thing I don't get is why no one in the world seems to be excited about Buck's 420HC steel, but people seem wild about 14C28N for budget knives. They're hardly different in my experience. Both quite tough, corrosion resistant, easy to sharpen and average edge holding for a budget stainless.

I'll take it a step further and really get some peoples panties in a twist. Buck's 420HC isn't too far off from Magnacut in my experience.

Based on my time with both steel, it matches or exceeds Magnacuts toughness and ease of sharpening. I consistently get Buck's 420HC ridiculously sharp nearly effortlessly, it's a pleasure to sharpen.

I've never rusted either steel except for the time I literally buried a broken Buck 110 blade underground for a month to really test it, but on paper I suppose magnacut is better there.

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8Cr Byrd VS 420HC Buck after being buried in the underground in Northern Ohio for a month. They were exposed to multiple rain storms.

Magnacut holds an edge longer, yes, but it isn't a very big difference in my experience.

There's a lot to be said for perfectly executing the heat treatment and geometry with a tough, simple stainless steel like Buck does.

While they offer modernized 110's with clips and thumstuds in S30V, D2 and other steels, I'm in no hurry to try them. This steel works so well for me. I give it a couple passes per side on a fine or medium ceramic stone when the edge loses it's bite, and that's all it takes.

420HC Buck's are seriously under rated when it comes to cutting performance in my opinion. I've been carrying them off and on for over 30 years and I've never once had a single issue with the steel.

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The geometry is exceptional. Nicely done hollow grind, and a thinner than typical edge bevel.

I always test out new knives by carving some wood. It's the quickest way I know to check the edge geometry. I reprofile something like 99% of the knives I buy after this test, because the edges are too thick to carve wood up to my standards. Spydercos, Swiss Army Knives, Opinels, Winklers.

My Buck 110's though, those are in the 1%. This one is no different - it cuts very well out of the box. Shaving sharp, thin bevel, thin primary grind. The Pacific Salt and Air Lite shipped with thicker edges that took some work on my reprofiling stones to cut as well as these. If there is one thing Buck does well, it's putting good slicing geometry on their knives.


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I really dislike this folders clip though. I do not like deep carry fold over clips. They feel terrible in my grip. I'm going to try to get used to it, but I wish they'd put a regular clip on. Those of you that slap these on all your Spydercos - ya'll are crazy.

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The handle texturing is very nice. It has a mellow orange peel texture around the edges, a brushed texture near the logo, and a recessed diamond pattern on the meat of the handle. None of them are abrasive at all but they give the folder a nice feel for unlined plastic handles.

Between the texturing and the concave grip shape, grip security is good enough for moderate stabbing / piercing cuts. I wouldn't slam this as hard as I could into a log in reverse grip, but it's sufficient for the tasks I use EDC folders for.

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Chamfering is superior to the air lite and pacific salt. This is one area where most other companies beat out Spyderco. The Pacific Salt 1 was chamfered much better than gen 2 as well - if I compared the 110 Slim to a gen 2 Pacific the difference would be even more substantial.

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The tip is slightly more robust the the original 110, but still on the thinner side. I like them. They do fine slicing plastic packaging, starting holes in wooden planks, picking splinters etc.

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The tip shape is a bit different. Closer to a drop point than the original Buck 110, but still classified as a clip point according to Buck's website.

One thing that baffles me though, is why did they shorten the blade?

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You can see it better right here.

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Plenty of space left in the handle for more edge. I don't get it. I wish they'd add another 1/8 to 1/4 inch of blade.

Lockup is solid. Mine has a touch of vertical lock rock, zero side to side blade. Some pinned Buck 110's have side to side play, I will say, but not this green Slim.

This particular $27 Buck 110 Slim has less lock rock and side to side play than the Pacific Salt I photographed next to it. Less than a brand new back-up too, in fact.

Buck does their lockbacks a little different than Spyderco. The sides of the lock bar are angled, where it goes into the notch on the blade.

Buck 110:

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C95:

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While all lockbacks tend to have a strong closing bias, Buck's lockbacks seem to have a bit of an opening bias too. Right before the lock bar drops into place, the folder finishes opening by itself. It's neat.

Test it out some time. Open a Spyderco lockback, unlock it, and close it the least amount you can to prevent the lock bar from settling back in. Do the same with a Buck 110. You'll feel a difference right away.

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Overall I'm pleased with it.

It has a nice, solid feel. While it's a 2.8oz linerless folder, the handle doesn't flex. The lock bar is hardened steel and goes the full length of the handle, and there is a steel piece pinned into the end to aid balance and anchor the clip screws.

I have a few minor issues with it, like the clip and the shortened blade, but neither should be deal breakers.

It's an incredible value and feels well made. $25-35 for a nice USA made folder with a 60 year legacy. Hard to beat that.

It's a lot more convenient than the original Buck 110. Easier to open and close one handed, easier to carry. The original has better styling, blade to handle ratio and ergonomics, but I see myself picking this version more often day to day. I don't really like the idea of carrying a 7oz brass and wood folder to my chef job. Something in linerless FRN or G10 and a stainless blade is much more practical for me.

Speaking of one handed opening / closing, here's how I do it. I have quik studs installed on a lot of my Buck 110 Lightweights, the kind without clips, so I'm already pretty used this this:



It's a breeze.

I already did a few odd tasks around the house, and it sails through cardboard and feather sticks like a champ.

Used my old one for a few months before I sold it so I have experience with them already, plus Buck 110's in general have been a staple in my collection since decades before I got into Spyderco.

Excited to give it some more pocket time. It's a neat blend of modern and traditional. Not sure why it didn't click for me the first time, but I can already tell this one is a permanent member of my collection.
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Re: Vivi's Others

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I'm loving all your comments on Bucks 420 HC and I agree. I know some old timers who also really like Bucks heat treats. I guess some of the older makers who say that 420 HC is the best steel to make their custom knives out of might not just be skimping if this is the kind of performance that a user is looking for. I always imagine the scores of people that will tell them they are just living in the past and crazy if they are using 420 HC still, ha ha. Really that steel is on my short list of steels that I would consider in a custom knife, and most of my other preferences are very similar.

You know, I am surprised to hear you say that yours was ground nice and thin. My brother's example seemed somewhat thick behind the edge, and doesn't seem to have a very deep hollow primary grind. I haven't used it much so I don't have a good feel for it's perfomance, but my guess is that it will cut somewhat close to what you would expect for something around $35. Maybe I'll have to borrow it from him to find out. I do wonder if it might be a bit of luck of the draw with the grind though.

His example has good lockup like yours, less rock and movement than my Endura. Of course it is a back backlock, as opposed to a mid-backlock, but I don't find the lock location much of a problem because of my tendency to close two handed.

It's a good knife. Had I not gotten a bit of extra funds right when I was looking for a new knife, I would have ended up with one of these instead of an Endura.
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vivi wrote:
Thu Mar 26, 2026 6:47 pm

Excited to give it some more pocket time. It's a neat blend of modern and traditional. Not sure why it didn't click for me the first time, but I can already tell this one is a permanent member of my collection.
Great review, thanks for sharing. I am intrigued about these.

What made you select the one on the left instead of the one on the right? Just the clip or something more? The right one seems very close the the classics in size, no?
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How is the self close bias on the 110 slim? I had the 112 version and it felt like it was bounce open a bit. And the tip was seated very shallow in the scales.
I don’t remember what happened to that one. Either way I prefer the larger handle of the 110. More grip area.
Regarding the steel, I’ve been trying to be honest with myself in that I don’t use my pocket knives much during the week. Maybe opening a package or two and cutting some food. I don’t need 15V or K390 for that. I’m happy those exist for people that can honestly use it. But even the SAK steel lasts me awhile 😆
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RugerNurse wrote:
Fri Mar 27, 2026 4:36 am
How is the self close bias on the 110 slim? I had the 112 version and it felt like it was bounce open a bit. And the tip was seated very shallow in the scales.
I don’t remember what happened to that one. Either way I prefer the larger handle of the 110. More grip area.
Regarding the steel, I’ve been trying to be honest with myself in that I don’t use my pocket knives much during the week. Maybe opening a package or two and cutting some food. I don’t need 15V or K390 for that. I’m happy those exist for people that can honestly use it. But even the SAK steel lasts me awhile 😆
Seems good on mine



Starts out just a bit sluggish, but the self close bias also kicks in earlier than most other lockbacks. It snaps shut fine and the tip is plenty recessed
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Thu Mar 26, 2026 9:05 pm
vivi wrote:
Thu Mar 26, 2026 6:47 pm

Excited to give it some more pocket time. It's a neat blend of modern and traditional. Not sure why it didn't click for me the first time, but I can already tell this one is a permanent member of my collection.
Great review, thanks for sharing. I am intrigued about these.

What made you select the one on the left instead of the one on the right? Just the clip or something more? The right one seems very close the the classics in size, no?

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I already owned some of those Lightweights in that version and the finger grooved version. Great knives but I wanted to try one with a clip.

A lot of what I wrote about the clipped one can be said of that version. See my blurb on page 2: viewtopic.php?p=1802810#p1802810

Also, I flamed my clip. Got the idea from another forum. It came out a little splotchy but it will get the job done.


stock clip

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I like how these all ship with an extra set of clip screws

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Flaming it

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The result

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I don't care if people know I'm carrying a knife, but I don't care for wearing anything shiny. Watches, pocket clips, jewelry etc.
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