Let's talk about the clips

[Jeb]

For all you guys that use the Spyderco knives and especially the clips on them, I have been messing around with a few of my knives and I may have a way for you to draw your knife as well as put it back in your pocket that reduces the wear and tear on your pocket lip.

This doesn't require any modification to your knife or its clip either. I have been doing this for quite sometime and with a host of different scales too.

While it's quite easy, me being able to type on the forum here and get the method across, may not be such an easy task, given my lack of proper English lol.

Now all my clips I bend the leading edge or tab of the clip out to where it's basically double what it is when we get the knife new. They come at 1/8" out from the scales, I like mine 1/4" so that the clip will get started over my pocket perfectly everytime, even when I may have like insulated coveralls on.

Here is a pic of what I am trying to type... first pic is stock tab from scales at 1/8"



This next one is where I just bend mine out to...



Now you don't have to do this for this method to work. Just showing you what I have done and why is all. Now the way I have been putting my knife on my pocket lip and drawing it works the same.

Your just merely stick your forefinger right on the end of that tab, that I bend out and your thumb on the top edge of the knife that is exposed as it sits in your pocket. I have done this on stock clips, so I know it works.

Stick that forefinger right on the end of the tab as you push the knife over your pocket lip and you just let your forefinger act as a guide shoe. Then using your thumb you will just push the knife in.

Same way as you draw, I just grab my lanyard that leads my hand right to my knife and then with my forefinger I just push up on the tab and wedge my finger slightly in between the pocket and the knife as I draw the knife out, I use my thumb at the top of the knife to stabilize the direction of the knife and keep my forefinger in place.

Just a little messing around with this and you should get the feel for this. In doing this, I have noticed quite a reduction in the pinch the clips should do to help keep our knives safe and in our pocket. I like my clips tight on my pants, tighter the better for me lol.

Once my forefinger is on the lifted tab of the clip, place your thumb on the exposed top of the knife. With your thumb and forefinger in these two places, you proceed to draw the knife or place the knife over the lip of the pocket.

I do it now without even thinking about it. You guys that wear the nice dress pants should find this a big benefit... least I hope you do. Give it a go and see if you can make sense of all this mess I have tried to type and show you.

[Jesla]

I do the same thing sometimes… I just do it without bending the clip and possibly creating a hot spot or something that might scratch paint or furniture. I simply slide the fingernail of my index finger under the end of the clip and slip it in or out. Kinda acts like a reverse shoe horn….

[zhyla]

That’s a snag magnet. I had trouble with the previous gen Native clips catching on things and bending the clip.

[w3tnz]

This doesn't require any modification

I bend

That’s a snag magnet.

This - you’ll be replacing knives more than pants I reckon. Why not just bend the whole clip out to reduce some tension?

All my homies wear Lynch clips, lower profile, less tension, knife fully pocketed, lifetime warranty etc.

(waits for Wartsteins unsolicited opinion)

[Jeb]

I have never snagged my clip on anything, add the fact that I have four knives on my right-side too. Plus three of the four have a lanyard on them.

I guess the way I climb in and on tractors and other equipment is just different. I certainly want my clip tightly pinching my knife on my pants too. I get up under the console all upside-down, working on things; I don't want my knife coming out until I draw it out.

So, I am guessing this is not so helpful for you all. It works for me, sorry it didn't for you, but certainly bending the pinch of the clip out and lesson the bite a little will help the wear and tear on your slacks and dress pants.

I wear UF PRO P40 gen 3 pants around here just about exclusively. They are loaded with all manner of different panels sewn in for wear and tear. So needless to say I don't worry about my pocket lip.

These pants are in a different place all together from Dockers or the like lol. They are not a dress attire, they are more along the heavy-duty wear and they are way comfortable to work in.

Here us a hyperlink to these pants I wear. You will see what I mean when I say they are not dress pants lol. But they wear great lol.

https://ufpro.com/us/pants/tactical-pan ... ical-pants

Sorry my way to get your knife in and out of your slacks doesn't help. I can't say anything about the Lynch clips or other deep carry clips. I just prefer the stock clips and as mentioned, I like my clip tight. I simply don't want my knife loose and the chance of loosing the knife.

They tear up my pants, I just order more of them. Some of the knives I have, you just simply can't order another, when they no longer make it. The pants are way easier for me to get.

[Evil D]

Just some observations..

1. The clip sticking up off the handle roughly 2x higher may not be the best for ergonomics.

2. This will also effectively shorten the reach of the clip, and on some models will result in the clip not hitting the "landing pad" on the scale, which can result in some unwanted issues, particularly with FRN scales that have texture molded into them. This won't make much difference on G10.

[Coastal]

Here us a hyperlink to these pants I wear. You will see what I mean when I say they are not dress pants lol. But they wear great lol.

Nice pants! Probably last me the rest of my life.

[Jeb]

Just some observations..

1. The clip sticking up off the handle roughly 2x higher may not be the best for ergonomics.

2. This will also effectively shorten the reach of the clip, and on some models will result in the clip not hitting the "landing pad" on the scale, which can result in some unwanted issues, particularly with FRN scales that have texture molded into them. This won't make much difference on G10.

ED,

How I bend the tab is just the part that is already lifted off the scales. I don't change its reach over the lip of the pocket, or in others words; it's depth.

I don't change the clips bite or pinch pressure either. All I am doing is the very end of the clip that has a small length of it lifted up to help us push the clip over the lip of the pocket, I just merely bent that at a bigger angle away from the scales.

I obviously have such poor word and typing skills, I am not explaining what I am actually doing here. Dang guys I am so sorry to have just wasted bandwidth on the forum as well as everyone's time that read my poor attempt at this.

These pants should have enough info on their website. They are really great to wear and work in. I live in mine lol, I don't like wearing any others. I have a couple different colors of these and several pairs of each color. Enough so I don't have to wear any other pants if I choose.

There is some really great liners that you can zip in for colder weather and the have the ability to wear two belts. One belt for just the waist adjustment and then a duty belt over the top of that. There is lots of R&D in these and some serious science with the different material panels sewn in the different areas for different purposes. They don't just makes these from one weight of material.

I was given my first pair by the military that I was a contractor for. Been wearing their stuff since lol. They have the sizes to fit just about anyone too. Great online website and customer service too. They stand behind the stuff completely.

Here is a different view of the clip and the tab or the spoon that I lifted off the scales to a 1/4"...

[Sharp Guy]

I got tired of the hourglass destroying blue jeans and shorts, especially on knives with bi-directional texturing or peel-ply G10. So I started bending the the whole clip out (at the base) to take a little tension off. It takes a little messing around with to get it just right but it's been worthwhile for me

[cabfrank]

Wow those are some fancy britches!
I bend my clips out a little at the base also. Maybe someday I'll try an aftermarket clip.

[Evil D]

ED,

How I bend the tab is just the part that is already lifted off the scales. I don't change its reach over the lip of the pocket, or in others words; it's depth.

Nevermind, I misunderstood how you were bending the clip, I thought you bent the other end taller. There's a basic geometry math problem here where in order to make it taller, it must also become shorter because the material had to come from somewhere, just as if you were put the whole clip in a press and flatten it completely out it would be longer. But the spot you're bending doesn't effect the landing pad so this won't be a problem.

I still see it as an ergonomic problem but hey it looks great from my house

[Red Leader]

I got tired of the hourglass destroying blue jeans and shorts, especially on knives with bi-directional texturing or peel-ply G10. So I started bending the the whole clip out (at the base) to take a little tension off. It takes a little messing around with to get it just right but it's been worthwhile for me

You might also try the ti clip which has just slightly less spring pressure and looks awesome to boot.

[Red Leader]

I’m a lefty and unfortunately I find my left sided knife (usually a PM2) constantly getting snagged on stuff, seatbelts, bags, etc. so I have the opposite problem. But I do really appreciate the PSA and mod and hope it works for others!

[cabfrank]

Yeah, Jeb, it will probably help some people, and I might even give it a try someday.

[Fastidiotus]

I've never had a pocket clip ruin my pants before I've ruined them somewhere else. I do frequently pry the clip up with my index finger when sliding them back in my pocket though instead of jamming them in there. I would also guess on average I'm only pulling my knife out 3 times a day, so perhaps I'm not a heavy enough user either.

[silver & black]

This doesn't require any modification

I bend

That’s a snag magnet.

This - you’ll be replacing knives more than pants I reckon. Why not just bend the whole clip out to reduce some tension?

All my homies wear Lynch clips, lower profile, less tension, knife fully pocketed, lifetime warranty etc.

(waits for Wartsteins unsolicited opinion)

This.

[Jeb]

ED,

I just love that say'n, " You can't see it from my house"

Yes sir! Sorry I bothered everyone with this...lol

[Manixguy@1994]

ED,

I just love that say'n, " You can't see it from my house"

Yes sir! Sorry I bothered everyone with this...lol

Thanks for sharing a different perspective Jeb ! It may help someone on the Forum , everyone has a different view when it comes to clips . Dan

[Evil D]

ED,

I just love that say'n, " You can't see it from my house"

Yes sir! Sorry I bothered everyone with this...lol

Not bothered at all, just throwing out thoughts

[BeggarSo]

I understand other people like after market clips I have tried a few Meh, I like Spydercos just fine except for the painted ones black paint that scratches of is well just cheaping out. Really dont like it at all.

Keep the shape and all else the same maybe anodize them instead.