Good points. I seldom use the blade choil on my folders that have one, because I prefer the grip on the handle. For really fine work I’ll just choke up on the blade in a pinch grip.vivi wrote: ↑Sat Nov 08, 2025 9:59 amone thing that's interesting to me...
is that people are bothered by a blade not being 2-3mm longer where it could based on how it sits in the handle...
but don't care that a lot of designs could offer another ~15mm of cutting edge,or more, by eliminating the index choil.
On a knife that can easily be fully gripped without the index choil it seems odd to me to be worried about 2-3mm and ignore 15-20mm.
I'm not super hung up on the issue either way. I'll take a full sized handle and an Endura sized blade over a medium sized handle (Endura blade length is the smallest I carry). That said, I'd buy a Police, Military or Manix XL with no choil.
The temperance 2 is basically a choil free Manix XXL, and I have never wished for an index choil while using it.
I don't really get the appeal of choking up on such small, easy to control knives. They make sense on knives like a Dragonfly to me, but not full sized folders and fixed blades. Both these knives work fine for precision cuts and they're bigger than just about every folder Spyderco has made to date.
Blade to Handle Efficiency?
Re: Blade to Handle Efficiency?
Re: Blade to Handle Efficiency?
yablanowitz wrote: ↑Sat Nov 08, 2025 8:26 amJust out of curiosity, where does a knife with 4 3/8" handle and 7 1/8" of cutting edge fall on your "efficiency scale"?
It's called a large stockman if you're curious.
(Scratching head) Is this with two blades open, opposite ends? If so, you might do even better with a Muskrat pattern!
To be fair, I don't track cutting edge; ie, I don't measure along the arc of the edge. I just go with published blade length, which is often shorter than cutting edge length.
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Re: Blade to Handle Efficiency?
Three blades; clip main, sheepsfoot and spey. Total actual cutting edge length two and a quarter inches longer than the handle.
Sorry, but I've always thought this whole metric is silly. I'll stay out of it from now on. Carry on.
Sorry, but I've always thought this whole metric is silly. I'll stay out of it from now on. Carry on.

