cabfrank wrote: ↑Tue Sep 09, 2025 1:31 pm
It seems odd that it could be considered dirty to kick someone who is kicking you. I suppose if it is too dangerous for the sport though.
Yeah, I get that the oblique kick is potentially far more damaging than the Thai round kick to the thigh/calf. But (apparently) they haven't banned it yet. I don't know, maybe they have since then; I don't really watch MMA anymore; I only occasionally watch some clips.
The comparison between the two kicks is that while they both require considerable training to become natural, ingrained actions, the oblique kick does not require the level of conditioning to apply effectively as the Thai-style round kick. Without that constant, proper conditioning, using that low roundhouse kick risks breaking your own shin if it's blocked or lands wrong. There are numerous examples of MMA fighters who suffered gruesome breaks to their lower leg bones while Thai kicking to the opponent's leg. It's possible that most of the fighters in question were using the Thai kicks without undergoing the same level of leg conditioning that a real, traditional Muay Thai fighter, or a high-level Kyokushin Karate fighter does.
OTOH,the oblique kick will be effective without requiring the constant extreme shin/lower leg conditioning that a Muay Thai-style round kick requires. Which also means that it is more practical as one's body ages and can no longer maintain the extreme shin conditioning that Muay Thai round kicks require.
Yes, the oblique kick to the knee is very dangerous. I've seen it happen in person. And in my own experience, I was oblique kicked, not on the knee but on my shinbone, which caused my lower leg to swell like a grapefruit (I now suspect that I probably got an undiagnosed hairline fracture). And my opponent had used the 'pendulum-style' delivery; swinging it straight-legged into my shin, without first bending his knee before thrusting the kick. The latter type of delivery is by far more destructive, so I was fortunate that he straight-legged it. That happened back in the late 1980s.
Jim