I don't want all compression locks switched to buttons but...

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Re: I don't want all compression locks switched to buttons but...

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vivi wrote:
Thu Aug 28, 2025 9:27 pm
on paper those locks can solve those issues,but in practice the BM's I've owned didn't have quite the amount of self closing bias I look for, and they can be unlocked on accident even easier than the cbbl.
I have a couple non-BM crossbar knives. The Walmart Ozark Trail everyone loses their minds over has such a strong detente that it feels like a spring assisted knife. Mine won’t pop open without some deliberate force.
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Re: I don't want all compression locks switched to buttons but...

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zhyla wrote:
Thu Aug 28, 2025 8:22 pm
Axis (“crossbar”) locks solve the detente, ergonomic, and accidental unlock issues really well. I don’t know that I’d say it’s a better lock than compression lock, but if those things bother you it solves them well.

I don’t know if Spyderco would ever do a crossbar lock. It would be a little weird I guess.


Seems like this lock either requires a big notch/choil in the blade or they just happen to all have it. I assume it was mandatory for clearance around the lock mechanism, which kills it for me. I couldn't have an edge all the way to the handle like a Bodacious with an axis lock, so I'd actually choose the ergonomic issues I have over that.
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Re: I don't want all compression locks switched to buttons but...

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zhyla wrote:
Thu Aug 28, 2025 8:22 pm
Axis (“crossbar”) locks solve the detente, ergonomic, and accidental unlock issues really well. I don’t know that I’d say it’s a better lock than compression lock, but if those things bother you it solves them well.

I don’t know if Spyderco would ever do a crossbar lock. It would be a little weird I guess.
I have had two knives open in my pocket over some 50yrs of carrying a pocket knife. The first was a sliding scale auto. I carried it for a few years after that incident. I reduced the chance of repeat by putting a lanyard through the lanyard hole.

The other was a well known premium brand crossbar lock with thumb studs (I hate thumb studs). It opened twice in a week. Sadly that knife, which I really like, doesn’t get carried anymore. I removed the thumb studs as a test and it didn’t open however without the studs it was a drop opening knife only knife, not good either. I have never bought another crossbar lock and likely never will.

A Spyderco with a crossbar lock might be safer with the spydie hole but I am still not likely to buy one.
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Re: I don't want all compression locks switched to buttons but...

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Evil D wrote:
Fri Aug 29, 2025 3:05 am
zhyla wrote:
Thu Aug 28, 2025 8:22 pm
Axis (“crossbar”) locks solve the detente, ergonomic, and accidental unlock issues really well. I don’t know that I’d say it’s a better lock than compression lock, but if those things bother you it solves them well.

I don’t know if Spyderco would ever do a crossbar lock. It would be a little weird I guess.


Seems like this lock either requires a big notch/choil in the blade or they just happen to all have it. I assume it was mandatory for clearance around the lock mechanism, which kills it for me. I couldn't have an edge all the way to the handle like a Bodacious with an axis lock, so I'd actually choose the ergonomic issues I have over that.
There was an axis lock Tenacious in the prototype case at BLADE. Actually a production sample. ;)
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Re: I don't want all compression locks switched to buttons but...

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Mushroom wrote:
Thu Aug 28, 2025 8:26 pm
zhyla wrote:
Thu Aug 28, 2025 8:22 pm
Axis (“crossbar”) locks solve the detente, ergonomic, and accidental unlock issues really well. I don’t know that I’d say it’s a better lock than compression lock, but if those things bother you it solves them well.

I don’t know if Spyderco would ever do a crossbar lock. It would be a little weird I guess.
They have a handful of crossbar lock models in the works. There were some on display in the prototype case at BLADE Show. :cheap-sunglasses
Are you serious?

If so, did it look like they were coil spring driven or omega spring driven?
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Re: I don't want all compression locks switched to buttons but...

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Red Leader wrote:
Fri Aug 29, 2025 9:46 am
Mushroom wrote:
Thu Aug 28, 2025 8:26 pm
zhyla wrote:
Thu Aug 28, 2025 8:22 pm
Axis (“crossbar”) locks solve the detente, ergonomic, and accidental unlock issues really well. I don’t know that I’d say it’s a better lock than compression lock, but if those things bother you it solves them well.

I don’t know if Spyderco would ever do a crossbar lock. It would be a little weird I guess.
They have a handful of crossbar lock models in the works. There were some on display in the prototype case at BLADE Show. :cheap-sunglasses
Are you serious?

If so, did it look like they were coil spring driven or omega spring driven?
I didn't look close enough to see what type of spring was being used but yes, I am serious. There were several models with crossbar locks. If I recall correctly, they will primarily be making their crossbar lock models in China. I do not recall any models that were from other countries of origin.
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Re: I don't want all compression locks switched to buttons but...

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Mushroom wrote:
Fri Aug 29, 2025 1:32 pm

I didn't look close enough to see what type of spring was being used but yes, I am serious. There were several models with crossbar locks. If I recall correctly, they will primarily be making their crossbar lock models in China. I do not recall any models that were from other countries of origin.
Hey Nick, I'm pretty sure that they were all omega springs. :cheap-sunglasses
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