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Re: Favorite movie fight scenes

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James Y wrote:
Fri Jun 20, 2025 9:36 pm
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Jim


Jim,

Well they have been getting more stupid as time went on.

Not just movies either, it's TV shows too.

The real issue is that's it's plainly obvious to the point of being ridiculous.

It's like this:

Enter perfect female character (IQ of 180 or better) in a room full of men who are complete morons (IQ of 25), inept and useless. (All men are useless, stupid and inept in those shows)

Jim
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Re: Favorite movie fight scenes

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Ankerson wrote:
Fri Jun 20, 2025 11:40 pm
James Y wrote:
Fri Jun 20, 2025 9:36 pm
John Wick Ballerina: How Hollywood Girlbosses Destroyed Female Action Heroes



Jim


Jim,

Well they have been getting more stupid as time went on.

Not just movies either, it's TV shows too.

The real issue is that's it's plainly obvious to the point of being ridiculous.

It's like this:

Enter perfect female character (IQ of 180 or better) in a room full of men who are complete morons (IQ of 25), inept and useless. (All men are useless, stupid and inept in those shows)

Jim


Yeah, it started happening at least since the late '80s/early '90s. Presented comedically, at first. Shows like Married With Children (which was funny, especially in its early seasons), The Simpsons, etc. The man of the house is portrayed as a bumbling, incompetent fool. Then it really ramped up in commercials, where the husband/father is portrayed as clueless, and/or even effeminate, while the wife or the kids (especially if the kid is a daughter) has to show dad how things are done. Or are villainized as something to be avoided at all costs. Then it REALLY ramped up in the last decade or so, to the point that many women in society today consider men to either be weak and useless, or such a danger that encountering a bear in the woods is preferable to encountering a man.

Apparently, that was the whole premise of the recent Snow White remake. And these movies are failing, because many people (particularly men) have become fed up with it. And they're just not good movies. No movie benefits from a protagonist that lacks any depth, is invulnerable, and has no real challenges that require them to change in order to overcome them. Such protagonists lack relatability, and they are obnoxious and unlikable. No movie or TV show benefits from having an unlikable lead protagonist that you're supposed to be rooting for. Intelligent people are fed up with it, but the studios seem ****-bent on doubling down and continuing to move forward with the agenda, in spite of the fact that these movies have been losing audiences and money.

This whole "girl boss" thing has been having a divisive effect on a good portion of society, because many people, especially those who are easily influenced, have taken these messages as the truth. Many of the younger generations have been bombarded with it for their entire lives, so it's become ingrained.

In the past, there were many great movies with female lead protagonists, precisely because of the reasons mentioned in that video. I personally still consider those older movies to be great. The problem with the ones nowadays (at least the ones made by the Hollywood studios) is that there is an agenda at play. And they're not even trying to be sly or subtle about it anymore.

Jim
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Re: Favorite movie fight scenes

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James Y wrote:
Sat Jun 21, 2025 9:05 am
Ankerson wrote:
Fri Jun 20, 2025 11:40 pm
James Y wrote:
Fri Jun 20, 2025 9:36 pm
John Wick Ballerina: How Hollywood Girlbosses Destroyed Female Action Heroes



Jim

Jim,



Jim,

Well they have been getting more stupid as time went on.

Not just movies either, it's TV shows too.

The real issue is that's it's plainly obvious to the point of being ridiculous.

It's like this:

Enter perfect female character (IQ of 180 or better) in a room full of men who are complete morons (IQ of 25), inept and useless. (All men are useless, stupid and inept in those shows)

Jim


Yeah, it started happening at least since the late '80s/early '90s. Presented comedically, at first. Shows like Married With Children (which was funny, especially in its early seasons), The Simpsons, etc. The man of the house is portrayed as a bumbling, incompetent fool. Then it really ramped up in commercials, where the husband/father is portrayed as clueless, and/or even effeminate, while the wife or the kids (especially if the kid is a daughter) has to show dad how things are done. Or are villainized as something to be avoided at all costs. Then it REALLY ramped up in the last decade or so, to the point that many women in society today consider men to either be weak and useless, or such a danger that encountering a bear in the woods is preferable to encountering a man.

Apparently, that was the whole premise of the recent Snow White remake. And these movies are failing, because many people (particularly men) have become fed up with it. And they're just not good movies. No movie benefits from a protagonist that lacks any depth, is invulnerable, and has no real challenges that require them to change in order to overcome them. Such protagonists lack relatability, and they are obnoxious and unlikable. No movie or TV show benefits from having an unlikable lead protagonist that you're supposed to be rooting for. Intelligent people are fed up with it, but the studios seem ****-bent on doubling down and continuing to move forward with the agenda, in spite of the fact that these movies have been losing audiences and money.

This whole "girl boss" thing has been having a divisive effect on a good portion of society, because many people, especially those who are easily influenced, have taken these messages as the truth. Many of the younger generations have been bombarded with it for their entire lives, so it's become ingrained.

In the past, there were many great movies with female lead protagonists, precisely because of the reasons mentioned in that video. I personally still consider those older movies to be great. The problem with the ones nowadays (at least the ones made by the Hollywood studios) is that there is an agenda at play. And they're not even trying to be sly or subtle about it anymore.

Jim

Jim,

Don't forget about anything and everything airing on Lifetime TV Channel. ;)


Jim
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Re: Favorite movie fight scenes

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Ankerson wrote:
Fri Jun 27, 2025 7:09 am
James Y wrote:
Sat Jun 21, 2025 9:05 am
Ankerson wrote:
Fri Jun 20, 2025 11:40 pm
James Y wrote:
Fri Jun 20, 2025 9:36 pm
John Wick Ballerina: How Hollywood Girlbosses Destroyed Female Action Heroes



Jim

Jim,



Jim,

Well they have been getting more stupid as time went on.

Not just movies either, it's TV shows too.

The real issue is that's it's plainly obvious to the point of being ridiculous.

It's like this:

Enter perfect female character (IQ of 180 or better) in a room full of men who are complete morons (IQ of 25), inept and useless. (All men are useless, stupid and inept in those shows)

Jim


Yeah, it started happening at least since the late '80s/early '90s. Presented comedically, at first. Shows like Married With Children (which was funny, especially in its early seasons), The Simpsons, etc. The man of the house is portrayed as a bumbling, incompetent fool. Then it really ramped up in commercials, where the husband/father is portrayed as clueless, and/or even effeminate, while the wife or the kids (especially if the kid is a daughter) has to show dad how things are done. Or are villainized as something to be avoided at all costs. Then it REALLY ramped up in the last decade or so, to the point that many women in society today consider men to either be weak and useless, or such a danger that encountering a bear in the woods is preferable to encountering a man.

Apparently, that was the whole premise of the recent Snow White remake. And these movies are failing, because many people (particularly men) have become fed up with it. And they're just not good movies. No movie benefits from a protagonist that lacks any depth, is invulnerable, and has no real challenges that require them to change in order to overcome them. Such protagonists lack relatability, and they are obnoxious and unlikable. No movie or TV show benefits from having an unlikable lead protagonist that you're supposed to be rooting for. Intelligent people are fed up with it, but the studios seem ****-bent on doubling down and continuing to move forward with the agenda, in spite of the fact that these movies have been losing audiences and money.

This whole "girl boss" thing has been having a divisive effect on a good portion of society, because many people, especially those who are easily influenced, have taken these messages as the truth. Many of the younger generations have been bombarded with it for their entire lives, so it's become ingrained.

In the past, there were many great movies with female lead protagonists, precisely because of the reasons mentioned in that video. I personally still consider those older movies to be great. The problem with the ones nowadays (at least the ones made by the Hollywood studios) is that there is an agenda at play. And they're not even trying to be sly or subtle about it anymore.

Jim

Jim,

Don't forget about anything and everything airing on Lifetime TV Channel. ;)


Jim

I might have watched something on Lifetime once, back in the '90s. And IIRC, it was some movie about a girl who carried what she called a "jack knife" (it was actually a Victorinox SAK, probably a Spartan), as a reminder of some trauma she had lived through. Unfortunately, I'm a sucker for watching something if I happen to spot a recognizable knife I'm familiar with, especially if I own one, LOL. I think it was on the TV because my mom happened to be watching it.

Jim
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Stumbled onto this tonight, gotta see the movie.


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Everyone, in the tubitv.com series Timeless in Episode about Water Gate the character named Flynn uses a Cold Steel Counter Point folder to cut someone loose. The series is about a group of time travellers trying to stop him from altering history.
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One-Percenter (2023, Japan)

Final fight scene: (actors' names: Tak Sakaguchi vs Togo Ishii):



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Jim, you are very experienced in martial arts and sword fighting knowledge. How realistic or unrealistic are those movie scenes where a warrior armed with a sword, say a Japanese Katana, attempts to cut the opponent, and the opponent actually catches the edge of the sword in his gloved or bare hands, and wrestles the blade away from his enemy? In reality almost impossible?
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SpyderEdgeForever wrote:
Mon Jul 14, 2025 8:46 pm
Jim, you are very experienced in martial arts and sword fighting knowledge. How realistic or unrealistic are those movie scenes where a warrior armed with a sword, say a Japanese Katana, attempts to cut the opponent, and the opponent actually catches the edge of the sword in his gloved or bare hands, and wrestles the blade away from his enemy? In reality almost impossible?

I'm not a sword fighter, or even a sword expert. However, catching a sword like that, gloved hands or not, is for the movies. If the sword he's catching is coming down with any semblance of force, bye bye hands.

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The Truth Behind Wu Jing's Rise - Talent or State Engineered?



The first time I saw Wu Jing was in person, in early 1995, when the Beijing Wushu Team performed at the Mandeville Auditorium, on the campus of the University of California, San Diego. I wasn't a student there, but was part of a martial arts group that was lucky to get the inside scoop, and tickets to attend. Wu Jing was the featured performer. I had no idea that he was going to be a future big movie star, mentioned in the same breath as Jet Li (who also was a Beijing Wushu Team alumni from the 1970s team), Jackie Chan, and Donnie Yen. In fact, after he began appearing in movies, it took me awhile to recognize him as the same guy who was the lead performer of that troupe. Then I checked the team description from the old flyer from the demo, and there was his name.

I liked several of his early performances, especially his knife vs baton fight against Donnie Yen in Sha Po Lang (Kill Zone). Several years later, I saw his first Wolf Warrior movie, and got turned off by the blatant propaganda. I won't watch any more of his stuff from recent years (within the past decade) anymore. I have nothing at all against Wu Jing personally; I just have a problem with propaganda films from ANY country.

Funny that some of Wu Jing's diehard fans claim he's the next big martial arts superstar. WHAT??? First off, Wu Jing is 51 years old. He's already a big star in Mainland China, but he is past his peak as a physical performer. You don't become the next international martial arts action star in your 50s, especially with an emphasis on state-sponsored propaganda films.

Secondly, the era of the martial arts action star is over. Thailand's Tony Jaa, Indonesia's Iko Uwais, and even bigger star Donnie Yen, all tried their hand at Hollyweird films, and were only given bit parts.

When Jackie Chan became popular in Hollyweird in the '90s, he was already well past his prime, and his popularity and quality of movies in Hong Kong had already started declining in the early 1990s. But Jackie had a personality with some international appeal that he could rely on, instead of only his declining physical skills. The same cannot necessarily be said for Wu Jing, IMO.

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Tatsuya Nakadai, the Greatest Japanese Actor, has Passed Away



He was 92. R.I.P.

He was definitely among my all-time favorite actors, and he was the last of that older generation of actors in the post-WW2 Japanese movies. His acting range was extremely versatile. They definitely don't make them like that anymore.

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Lucy was a female version of Limitless, although the drug progresses at a much faster rate, and the players are rather violent. Another Luc Besson movie.



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