Where Artificial Intelligence Is Right Now

[Naperville]

It's corporate robot vs corporate robot in this vision of the future.

It will be a Herculean task from where we are now to stop the obliteration of the human race given the pace of robotics and AI. I'd like to be alive to see what happens. In 50 to 100 years we will know if we survive or not.

[Naperville]

Naperville, Doc, and Jim, maybe you can answer this. If a modern American said they want to drive a car that had zero computers and only basic pre 1960 electrical components, or even a 1930s style car, as their main car, not merely for shows or collector items but for their daily life, to avoid the mess and expense of computers, would they be allowed to as long as it had safety belts?

On some prepper websites they talk about keeping old cars running because they think an EMP caused by a solar flare or a nuke will disable many modern cars. If you want to read about the most major event, read up on the Carrington Event, a solar flare that lit telegraph wires on fire.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carrington_Event

[Ankerson]

Naperville, Doc, and Jim, maybe you can answer this. If a modern American said they want to drive a car that had zero computers and only basic pre 1960 electrical components, or even a 1930s style car, as their main car, not merely for shows or collector items but for their daily life, to avoid the mess and expense of computers, would they be allowed to as long as it had safety belts?

On some prepper websites they talk about keeping old cars running because they think an EMP caused by a solar flare or a nuke will disable many modern cars. If you want to read about the most major event, read up on the Carrington Event, a solar flare that lit telegraph wires on fire.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carrington_Event

Well most of them watched Red Dawn too many times, they probably watch it 3 times a week.

The bottom line is 99.99999% don't have the income or the financial resources to actually prepare for the worst cases.

And even those who do there is still no guarantee they would survive long enough until the Earth recovered enough so they could survive.


U.S. EMP Commission Test Results – Key Points

1) - 50 vehicles built between 1987 and 2002 were exposed to a spectrum of EMP blasts (up to 50kV/m in strength).

2) - 3 out of 50 vehicles shut down while driving.

3) - All 3 of these vehicles continued rolling until they safely coasted to a stop.

4) - 1 of those vehicles was disabled completely and would not restart.

5) - 2 of those vehicles restarted without an issue.

6) - Many nuisance issues arose from the 50 exposed vehicles including radio interference, strange and erratic behavior from headlights, turn signals, or brake lights, and one vehicle needed to have its dashboard replaced

[James Y]

Jim

I knew that I should have read a lot more sci fi. I guess now is the time to research what the 5 to 10 best books are in: AI sci fi; military sci fi; robotics sci fi, medical sci fi.... ANY OTHER IDEAS?????

powers that be seem to keep turning sci fi into reality so I guess that is where we are headed like it or not. I can even use AI to research what the best books would be.

Naperville,

It's most likely the opposite; that much of sci-fi is actually soft disclosure of what already exists, but hasn't been made public yet. It's said that the technology that the public has access to, or knows about, is decades behind what has already been developed.

Jim

[Naperville]

Naperville, Doc, and Jim, maybe you can answer this. If a modern American said they want to drive a car that had zero computers and only basic pre 1960 electrical components, or even a 1930s style car, as their main car, not merely for shows or collector items but for their daily life, to avoid the mess and expense of computers, would they be allowed to as long as it had safety belts?

On some prepper websites they talk about keeping old cars running because they think an EMP caused by a solar flare or a nuke will disable many modern cars. If you want to read about the most major event, read up on the Carrington Event, a solar flare that lit telegraph wires on fire.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carrington_Event

Well most of them watched Red Dawn too many times, they probably watch it 3 times a week.

The bottom line is 99.99999% don't have the income or the financial resources to actually prepare for the worst cases.

And even those who do there is still no guarantee they would survive long enough until the Earth recovered enough so they could survive.


U.S. EMP Commission Test Results – Key Points

1) - 50 vehicles built between 1987 and 2002 were exposed to a spectrum of EMP blasts (up to 50kV/m in strength).

2) - 3 out of 50 vehicles shut down while driving.

3) - All 3 of these vehicles continued rolling until they safely coasted to a stop.

4) - 1 of those vehicles was disabled completely and would not restart.

5) - 2 of those vehicles restarted without an issue.

6) - Many nuisance issues arose from the 50 exposed vehicles including radio interference, strange and erratic behavior from headlights, turn signals, or brake lights, and one vehicle needed to have its dashboard replaced

I guess I have to plan to see Red Dawn. I don't recall that one, or ever having seen it. I am sure that many on survival websites have seen it if it has to do with a nuke.

It is true that few have the resources to last more than 5 minutes after the start of a nuclear war. A real bunker could cost tens if not hundreds of millions, and you cannot do it alone, you need a community of professionals involved. It's very complex.

[Naperville]

Jim

I knew that I should have read a lot more sci fi. I guess now is the time to research what the 5 to 10 best books are in: AI sci fi; military sci fi; robotics sci fi, medical sci fi.... ANY OTHER IDEAS?????

powers that be seem to keep turning sci fi into reality so I guess that is where we are headed like it or not. I can even use AI to research what the best books would be.

Naperville,

It's most likely the opposite; that much of sci-fi is actually soft disclosure of what already exists, but hasn't been made public yet. It's said that the technology that the public has access to, or knows about, is decades behind what has already been developed.

Jim

YES. A lot can be gleaned from research.

[Ankerson]

Naperville, Doc, and Jim, maybe you can answer this. If a modern American said they want to drive a car that had zero computers and only basic pre 1960 electrical components, or even a 1930s style car, as their main car, not merely for shows or collector items but for their daily life, to avoid the mess and expense of computers, would they be allowed to as long as it had safety belts?

On some prepper websites they talk about keeping old cars running because they think an EMP caused by a solar flare or a nuke will disable many modern cars. If you want to read about the most major event, read up on the Carrington Event, a solar flare that lit telegraph wires on fire.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carrington_Event

Well most of them watched Red Dawn too many times, they probably watch it 3 times a week.

The bottom line is 99.99999% don't have the income or the financial resources to actually prepare for the worst cases.

And even those who do there is still no guarantee they would survive long enough until the Earth recovered enough so they could survive.


U.S. EMP Commission Test Results – Key Points

1) - 50 vehicles built between 1987 and 2002 were exposed to a spectrum of EMP blasts (up to 50kV/m in strength).

2) - 3 out of 50 vehicles shut down while driving.

3) - All 3 of these vehicles continued rolling until they safely coasted to a stop.

4) - 1 of those vehicles was disabled completely and would not restart.

5) - 2 of those vehicles restarted without an issue.

6) - Many nuisance issues arose from the 50 exposed vehicles including radio interference, strange and erratic behavior from headlights, turn signals, or brake lights, and one vehicle needed to have its dashboard replaced

I guess I have to plan to see Red Dawn. I don't recall that one, or ever having seen it. I am sure that many on survival websites have seen it if it has to do with a nuke.

It is true that few have the resources to last more than 5 minutes after the start of a nuclear war. A real bunker could cost tens if not hundreds of millions, and you cannot do it alone, you need a community of professionals involved. It's very complex.

Real bunkers are very, very complex and extremely expensive. Ones that would actually work that is, real ones cost like you said 10's to 100's of Millions.

All the real N.B.C. (Anti-Nuclear Biological Chemical) stuff is VERY expensive to buy and they would need a lot of it. Most of the things are one use and throw away, and they don't last very long before they need to be replaced.

I think I read the Billionaires are setting them up in New Zealand last I heard.

Figure they need to last 25/30 years or about until the Nuclear Winter etc is over. That's heat, food, fresh water and all the other supplies that goes with it all. Communities underground for decades.

[Naperville]

Disrupting malicious uses of AI: June 2025

https://openai.com/global-affairs/disru ... june-2025/

[SpyderEdgeForever]

Ankerson does that info you posted basically mean most cars are much more resistant to EMP than most think?

[Naperville]

AI Experts Debate: AI Job Loss, The End of Privacy & Beginning of AI Warfare w/ Mo, Salim & Dave 175

[Ankerson]

Ankerson does that info you posted basically mean most cars are much more resistant to EMP than most think?

Yes.

[Naperville]

Sweden has just taken a major leap in AI aerial warfare and is now on the path to deeply integrate AI tech into its manned fighter jets.

Saab has for the first time allowed AI to control a Gripen fighter jet to be controlled by artificial intelligence. During the test flights, the AI took complete control over the decision-making and ordered the pilot to fire in a simulated air battle with complex maneuvres.

It was the first test flight of the Gripen E-plane where the actual control was handed over to AI.

The AI agent is called Centaur and was developed by the new innovative German defense tech company @HelsingAI


The test flights, which began on May 28th and were conducted in collaboration with Helsing under the joint Project Beyond, represent a major step in the development of AI in combat aviation according to Saab.

"Unlike many other fighter aircraft, Gripen E's systems allow AI software to be installed directly on board without compromising safety.

- “This is an important milestone that demonstrates Saab's technologically advanced capabilities,” says Peter Nilsson, Head of Advanced Programs at Saab, in a press release.

- “We have in a short time both integrated and successfully test flown Helsing’s
AI in Gripen E, which is a testament to the rapid increase in capability we can offer our customers,” he added.

The third test flight, conducted on June 3rd, focused specifically on evaluating the AI agent's performance in so-called Beyond Visual Range scenarios or so-called beyond visual range air combat which was recently seen in the air battles between India and Pakistan.

Centaur was tested against a manned Gripen D aircraft under realistic conditions, varying factors such as speed, distance and access to command and control systems. The AI system used real-time sensor data to track and engage the target and showed capabilities that are expected to outstrip human capabilities of pilots in the near future.

Peter Nilsson also emphasizes that Gripen E's design means that it’s not limited to testing new software at military test sites or in dedicated experimental aircraft.

- “We are exploring and blurring the boundaries between today and the future,” he says.

- With software, it's no longer a question of fighter jet generations, but rather of the speed of software development.

The project is fully funded by the Swedish Defense Materiel Administration and is part of the concept studies for Sweden's future fighter capability.

A new series of test flights is planned for later this year.

Other companies that are quickly advancing in same new field of technology are @PalantirTech and @anduriltech, making excellence in AI aerial warfare most likely a huge component of achieving air dominance in future wars between peer-to-peer powers.

FROM HERE:

[Naperville]

College Says Every Student Is Now Required to Use AI | Frank Landymore, Futurism

It's not cheating, it's "AI Fluency."

https://futurism.com/college-every-stud ... red-use-ai

[shunsui]

College Says Every Student Is Now Required to Use AI

I wonder what those teachers will think when they are replaced by A.I. systems. Hard to imagine an easier job to replace than a teacher in most college subjects. Take roll, give a lecture, answer questions, hand out tests. Recorded video of class troublemakers, just an added bonus. Permanent Record, kids.

[Naperville]

College Says Every Student Is Now Required to Use AI

I wonder what those teachers will think when they are replaced by A.I. systems. Hard to imagine an easier job to replace than a teacher in most college subjects. Take roll, give a lecture, answer questions, hand out tests. Recorded video of class troublemakers, just an added bonus. Permanent Record, kids.

I think only a few of my instructors took roll in college. They did it by giving points for in class participation in which you took a short quiz.

Depending on the subject AI can replace them. In college they are supposed to be subject matter experts and be able to respond to questions correctly. Lower level courses may be able to make use of AI instructors IF artificial intelligence can ever get to the point of answering questions 100% correctly.

[shunsui]

The eventual advantage of A.I. would be that it would know not only all the information on a specific college subject, but all the information on all college subjects. It could lecture on interconnections between various disciplines and the course subject like James Burke did in his BBC series, Connections. It will be able to make connections no one else has figured out yet. It's all a matter of scale. It's a long way off though. Maybe 10 years ?

[Ankerson]

[Naperville]

The eventual advantage of A.I. would be that it would know not only all the information on a specific college subject, but all the information on all college subjects. It could lecture on interconnections between various disciplines and the course subject like James Burke did in his BBC series, Connections. It will be able to make connections no one else has figured out yet. It's all a matter of scale. It's a long way off though. Maybe 10 years ?

I don't know when this marvelous reveal is going to take place. It may take them 5, 10, 20 years to come up with a system that is all knowing, gives accurate answers to everything, and can think, whatever that means.

I have no experience with developing an AI system. I sure hope that they are weighting certain texts more than others. I hear that they are scanning, scraping and throwing everything into the AI systems. I hope not.

Garbage in; Garbage Out.

[Naperville]

The US DoD just awarded OpenAI a $200 million dollar contract.

[bob-atlatl]

40% of US office workers used AI at least a couple times a year most recently, that's up from 20% in 2023.
( saw this on FOX news this AM.)