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James Y wrote:
Tue May 27, 2025 9:09 am
Naperville wrote:
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Researchers claim ChatGPT o3 bypassed shutdown in controlled test

https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/a ... lled-test/

Things are moving the way they are, and for better or for worse, it will continue to do so, and nobody is going to stop it.

I use Chat GPT as a tool, but I do my best not to over-rely on it. If people over-rely on it, they will lose the ability to think and create for themselves.

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Jim,

Most are already at that point anyway and don't think for themselves and haven't for a long time now.

With AI that will only continue to get worse as time goes on.

Think of the Movie Don't Look Up, actually much more realistic than most would care to admit.

I was betting on the Comet.. ;)

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The AI is becoming realistic enough that I saw a YouTuber who was compelled to make a video, where he had to prove he's a real person, and not an AI bot. The likely negative abuses of AI are not a joke, where real video and audio evidence of anything will be discredited as AI, and fake AI "proof" will be accepted as real.

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James Y wrote:
Tue May 27, 2025 4:42 pm
The AI is becoming realistic enough that I saw a YouTuber who was compelled to make a video, where he had to prove he's a real person, and not an AI bot. The likely negative abuses of AI are not a joke, where real video and audio evidence of anything will be discredited as AI, and fake AI "proof" will be accepted as real.

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Jim,

Lots of things over the course of history are good things/ideas.

Then enter in the human factor and they get screwed up.

Human nature is the brick wall that will hinder the species evolvement and or survival in the future.

I seriously doubt humans will last long to evolve past what they are now the way things are going.

Who knows maybe the next intelligent species on Earth will do better.


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James Y wrote:
Tue May 27, 2025 4:42 pm
The AI is becoming realistic enough that I saw a YouTuber who was compelled to make a video, where he had to prove he's a real person, and not an AI bot. The likely negative abuses of AI are not a joke, where real video and audio evidence of anything will be discredited as AI, and fake AI "proof" will be accepted as real.

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AI or people using/abusing AI will crush the financial district and possibly start WW III. Not by taking over financial, military or healthcare systems. By releasing videos of leaders arguing and saying things virtually. #FakeNews Nobody will trust communications. And without communications, everything breaks down.
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Naperville wrote:
Tue May 27, 2025 5:27 pm
James Y wrote:
Tue May 27, 2025 4:42 pm
The AI is becoming realistic enough that I saw a YouTuber who was compelled to make a video, where he had to prove he's a real person, and not an AI bot. The likely negative abuses of AI are not a joke, where real video and audio evidence of anything will be discredited as AI, and fake AI "proof" will be accepted as real.

Jim
AI or people using/abusing AI will crush the financial district and possibly start WW III. Not by taking over financial, military or healthcare systems. By releasing videos of leaders arguing and saying things virtually. #FakeNews Nobody will trust communications. And without communications, everything breaks down.


They don't trust anything now thanks to.....well... :shush

It could get worse.
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My predictions: Technology in 2125 will be a bit changed from 2025. 1 High carbon stainless steel, plastics made from petroleum, and asphalt and drywall and brick and glass will still be the main materials but likely joined by carbon nanosteel and nanotube plastic. 2 AI and robots outside of clunky factory models will still be toys. No flexible independent robots replacing humans. 3 No compact energy guns. Standard rifles and machine guns and pistols but made of 3d printed carbon nanotube metal. 4 3d printed Carbon Nanotube Medical machines that eat cancer viruses bacteria etc. Possible new things: 1 Moon base and 2 Carbon Nanotube Steel and Carbon Nanotube metal alloys. These would be somewhat better than high carbon stainless steel. 3 Carbon Nanotube 3d Printing and Replicators. 4 Nano energy generators that use quantum energy. 5 Nanotube 3d computer chips.
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Another insider's view on how AI will replace jobs. We have to wait and see. They are coding AI systems to augment jobs, but this major AI CEO says that going from augmentation to full out replacement is easy to do.

https://archive.is/5v9Md
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Naperville
My predictions: Technology in 2125 will be a bit changed from 2025. 1 High carbon stainless steel, plastics made from petroleum, and asphalt and drywall and brick and glass will still be the main materials but likely joined by carbon nanosteel and nanotube plastic. 2 AI and robots outside of clunky factory models will still be toys. No flexible independent robots replacing humans. 3 No compact energy guns. Standard rifles and machine guns and pistols but made of 3d printed carbon nanotube metal. 4 3d printed Carbon Nanotube Medical machines that eat cancer viruses bacteria etc. Possible new things: 1 Moon base and 2 Carbon Nanotube Steel and Carbon Nanotube metal alloys. These would be somewhat better than high carbon stainless steel. 3 Carbon Nanotube 3d Printing and Replicators. 4 Nano energy generators that use quantum energy. 5 Nanotube 3d computer chips.
YES, I agree with some of this based on what I see already.

Many 3D printed firearms from major manufacturers within 5 years is possible. Then of course comes the hacking of the manufacturers systems and the theft, wherein the plans are lost to everyone on the globe.

You have many insights. Now all we have to do is sit back, and wait and see.
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This is a bit alarming.
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I attended high school from 74 to 78. You may not think much has changed, but everything has changed.

I DO LIKE CHANGE AND I WANT TO LIVE to see as much as I can.

Auto instrument panels that had 4 to 5 analog dials have been replaced with digital interfaces. The digital interface for the car that I drive are multifunction. You choose one of 3 major interface modes to obtain the readouts that you desire. The steering wheel changes even more modes. There must be 40 different discrete functions.

And the radio alone would have cost you $5000+ just a decade ago. Sirius XM, maps, connectivity with my cellphone, auto and electronics information, automatic wireless updates.

You do have to wonder, how much cheaper could they make the cars if they just went back to 4 to 5 analog dials.
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Naperville wrote:
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I attended high school from 74 to 78. You may not think much has changed, but everything has changed.

I DO LIKE CHANGE AND I WANT TO LIVE to see as much as I can.

Auto instrument panels that had 4 to 5 analog dials have been replaced with digital interfaces. The digital interface for the car that I drive are multifunction. You choose one of 3 major interface modes to obtain the readouts that you desire. The steering wheel changes even more modes. There must be 40 different discrete functions.

And the radio alone would have cost you $5000+ just a decade ago. Sirius XM, maps, connectivity with my cellphone, auto and electronics information, automatic wireless updates.

You do have to wonder, how much cheaper could they make the cars if they just went back to 4 to 5 analog dials.
I'm gonna be sad when 2010's cars are falling apart and parts are tough to come by.

I test drove some 2024-2025 sports cars and the tablet dash is not for me.

Give me physical knobs for the ac/heat and audio, stick shifts, the ability to turn off traction control and don't stop my engine at red lights.

Luckily mine has all those features, plus the one modern feature I want - bluetooth connectivity. that I do appreciate - having 250gb of music loaded on a microSD card on my phone that I can wirelessly access. Much better than a tape deck or a 20lb CD binder.
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vivi wrote:
Mon Jun 02, 2025 10:21 pm
Naperville wrote:
Mon Jun 02, 2025 9:23 pm
I attended high school from 74 to 78. You may not think much has changed, but everything has changed.

I DO LIKE CHANGE AND I WANT TO LIVE to see as much as I can.

Auto instrument panels that had 4 to 5 analog dials have been replaced with digital interfaces. The digital interface for the car that I drive are multifunction. You choose one of 3 major interface modes to obtain the readouts that you desire. The steering wheel changes even more modes. There must be 40 different discrete functions.

And the radio alone would have cost you $5000+ just a decade ago. Sirius XM, maps, connectivity with my cellphone, auto and electronics information, automatic wireless updates.

You do have to wonder, how much cheaper could they make the cars if they just went back to 4 to 5 analog dials.
I'm gonna be sad when 2010's cars are falling apart and parts are tough to come by.

I test drove some 2024-2025 sports cars and the tablet dash is not for me.

Give me physical knobs for the ac/heat and audio, stick shifts, the ability to turn off traction control and don't stop my engine at red lights.

Luckily mine has all those features, plus the one modern feature I want - bluetooth connectivity. that I do appreciate - having 250gb of music loaded on a microSD card on my phone that I can wirelessly access. Much better than a tape deck or a 20lb CD binder.
My mother said she wanted to get another Toyota Camry. When I saw it in person and then was offered a warranty package to cover electronics, I told her she better buy it. The cost to replace the instrument panel or heat/heat seat/air/defogger is another all electronic panel, and I bet they cost quite a bit.

I have to see if I can play music over the radio via bluetooth.
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Naperville, Doc, and Jim, maybe you can answer this. If a modern American said they want to drive a car that had zero computers and only basic pre 1960 electrical components, or even a 1930s style car, as their main car, not merely for shows or collector items but for their daily life, to avoid the mess and expense of computers, would they be allowed to as long as it had safety belts?
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Naperville, Doc, and Jim, maybe you can answer this. If a modern American said they want to drive a car that had zero computers and only basic pre 1960 electrical components, or even a 1930s style car, as their main car, not merely for shows or collector items but for their daily life, to avoid the mess and expense of computers, would they be allowed to as long as it had safety belts?

As long as it had the original engine yeah. But once that engine went bad the new engine would have to meet the NEW standards which means computers, pollution controls etc.

But why would one want to?

As a side note those old engines will not run on todays pump gas, they need high octane gas.

Would cost a small fortune to run it as a daily driver. Fuel efficiency would be in gallons per mile.

(You can't put a new manufactured engine in an old car and avoid modern pollution standards.)
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Ankerson wrote:
Wed Jun 04, 2025 12:42 pm
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Wed Jun 04, 2025 11:32 am
Naperville, Doc, and Jim, maybe you can answer this. If a modern American said they want to drive a car that had zero computers and only basic pre 1960 electrical components, or even a 1930s style car, as their main car, not merely for shows or collector items but for their daily life, to avoid the mess and expense of computers, would they be allowed to as long as it had safety belts?

As long as it had the original engine yeah. But once that engine went bad the new engine would have to meet the NEW standards which means computers, pollution controls etc.

But why would one want to?

As a side note those old engines will not run on todays pump gas, they need high octane gas.

Would cost a small fortune to run it as a daily driver. Fuel efficiency would be in gallons per mile.

(You can't put a new manufactured engine in an old car and avoid modern pollution standards.)
I am not sure, but I think you just pay a penalty fee here in IL if the car does not meet emissions.

Not that long ago I knew guys with built 350's that they stuffed into the old Buick Skyhawk bodies.

I think that in most states you can do what you want, but there is a fine. Not in lefty states, they will not allow it.

If I was loaded I'd drive a 69 Camaro with a 377 circle track motor or a 427. As long as it runs 10's in the qtr, pulls over 1g and has a top speed of at least 175 MPH, it would be worth the fine.
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It's corporate robot vs corporate robot in this vision of the future.

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Naperville wrote:
Wed Jun 04, 2025 6:47 pm
Ankerson wrote:
Wed Jun 04, 2025 12:42 pm
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Wed Jun 04, 2025 11:32 am
Naperville, Doc, and Jim, maybe you can answer this. If a modern American said they want to drive a car that had zero computers and only basic pre 1960 electrical components, or even a 1930s style car, as their main car, not merely for shows or collector items but for their daily life, to avoid the mess and expense of computers, would they be allowed to as long as it had safety belts?

As long as it had the original engine yeah. But once that engine went bad the new engine would have to meet the NEW standards which means computers, pollution controls etc.

But why would one want to?

As a side note those old engines will not run on todays pump gas, they need high octane gas.

Would cost a small fortune to run it as a daily driver. Fuel efficiency would be in gallons per mile.

(You can't put a new manufactured engine in an old car and avoid modern pollution standards.)
I am not sure, but I think you just pay a penalty fee here in IL if the car does not meet emissions.

Not that long ago I knew guys with built 350's that they stuffed into the old Buick Skyhawk bodies.

I think that in most states you can do what you want, but there is a fine. Not in lefty states, they will not allow it.

If I was loaded I'd drive a 69 Camaro with a 377 circle track motor or a 427. As long as it runs 10's in the qtr, pulls over 1g and has a top speed of at least 175 MPH, it would be worth the fine.

It will vary by State depending on the laws.

I know in the States I lived in it's not pay a fine, it's they won't even let it on the road legally unless it can pass the pollution requirements.

The car doesn't matter really other than the age, that's where the engine age comes in and that's what matters.
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Kristi and Naperville and Doc, this shows how AI is advancing. The following is an AI generated story that only needed a few key words from me. I call it Captain Kirk amd his Spyderco. Amazing:

"Captain James T. Kirk (Starfleet Captain - Impulsive, Courageous) found himself in a most unusual predicament. The transporter malfunction had deposited him not on the expected Klingon science vessel, but in a bizarre, hyper-dimensional pocket dimension resembling a giant, pulsating Tribble. Giant, sentient Tribbles, to be exact. These weren't the fluffy, adorable creatures of legend. These were monstrous, carnivorous behemoths with razor-sharp claws and a disconcerting appetite for anything organic, including, it seemed, Starfleet officers. He'd already lost his phaser in the transporter mishap, leaving him with only his trusty Spyderco Endura 4, a gift from Spock, for defense. Two particularly aggressive Tribbles, their fur the color of burnt umber, lunged, their gaping maws filled with needle-sharp teeth. Kirk, with a practiced flick of his wrist, used the Spyderco's blade to deflect a blow, the high-carbon steel surprisingly effective against the surprisingly tough Tribble hide. The pungent aroma of burnt fur filled the air.

Meanwhile, a squad of Klingons (Warrior Race - Aggressive, Honor-Bound), clad in shimmering, obsidian armor, materialized from a swirling vortex. They were far less surprised than Kirk by the scene before them: the diminutive captain, covered in Tribble slime and wielding a small knife against two behemoths. The Klingons, initially amused by the spectacle, soon recognized the Spyderco as a tool of remarkable quality, something even their own blacksmiths couldn't replicate. Their leader, a hulking warrior named Gorok (Klingon Warlord - Ruthless, Pragmatic), bellowed orders. Kirk, sensing an opportunity, used the moment of confusion to dispatch the remaining Tribble with a swift, accurate stab, the creature collapsing with a gurgling sigh. He then expertly butchered the fallen beast, its unusual, yet surprisingly tender, meat strangely appetizing in the context of impending doom.

Kirk, having quickly assessed the situation (and consumed a surprisingly tasty Tribble steak), decided to exploit the Klingons' fascination with his knife. He offered them a piece of the cooked meat, showcasing the Spyderco’s sharpness as he expertly carved it. Gorok, intrigued by the blade and the surprisingly delicious meat, decided that Kirk's unique survival skills and exotic weaponry were more valuable alive than dead. A strange alliance was formed, sealed not with blood, but with a shared appreciation for a well-crafted knife and unexpected culinary adventure in a hyper-dimensional Tribble-filled pocket universe. They proceeded to hunt down the other monstrous Tribbles, not for survival but out of a newly shared culinary interest, forging an improbable bond amidst the chaos of the bizarre dimension."

All I added were the keywords Spyderco knife, Captain James Kirk, Klingons, Tribbles etc. The AI did the rest. Note: The AI picked the Endura 4. All I said was Spyderco Knife. I find that to be int
eresting. Notice the AI gets the steel wrong. High carbon instead of VG10.
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James Y wrote:
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Jim
I knew that I should have read a lot more sci fi. I guess now is the time to research what the 5 to 10 best books are in: AI sci fi; military sci fi; robotics sci fi, medical sci fi.... ANY OTHER IDEAS?????

The powers that be seem to keep turning sci fi into reality so I guess that is where we are headed like it or not. I can even use AI to research what the best books would be.
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