It isn't only divers that need corrosion resistance

[Doc Dan]

It is not only divers that need corrosion resistance. Hunters need it just as badly and sometimes more so. Being out in the environments that hunters are normally in will rust a knife very quickly, especially in humid and rainy areas. Plus, blood is really hard on blades. Temperature changes, going from cold to warm at a camp will quickly rust steel (as every soldier knows). I would like to see LC 200 N and Magnacut offered with orange scales. Bright day glow blue would also be very nice. These colors are easy to see if dropped on the ground.

[Naperville]

YES 100%.

I am always on the lookout for improved steels.

[zhyla]

Don’t regular stainless steel handle that need pretty well?

[mikey177]

I don't hunt, but I do a lot of work around plants. I also appreciate blades with a high level of corrosion resistance.

[Wartstein]

It is not only divers that need corrosion resistance. Hunters need it just as badly and sometimes more so.
..... I would like to see LC 200 N and Magnacut offered with orange scales. Bright day glow blue would also be very nice. These colors are easy to see if dropped on the ground.

Doc, you´re touching on something which I was thinking - and tried to start a thread about some 3.5 years ago.

Something like if Spyderco is not perhaps even missing sales opportunities, because the Salt knives are still marketed and described/placed or at least seen by many (in the general market!) as rather specialized tools for maritime environments (see "my" thread here viewtopic.php?p=1509274#p1509274

An example: If I was not really into Spyderco, I might come across the Salt 2 and perhaps miss what an amazing, superlight, strong, rustproof mountain - and hiking knife it really is, cause it has that "is-for-salt-water" touch, when it comes to subtle marketing and how it is presented.

I wonder if the market for the Salt knives would not perhaps broaden if Spyderco offensively would bring out and market some Salt models specifically as hiking or hunting folders or at least versions and target new segments of customers by specifically pointing out how well the "Salt" aspects work in that scenarios.

This could very well happen by "just" giving for example the Salt 2, Pac Salt or whichever model a new handle color - yes, bright orange would be perfect, but also on the flipside perhaps some brown colors that are associated more with "woods and open country" than with the sea.
AND perhaps call such a version the "Ultra-Hiker" or "Huntsman superlight" or whatever...

[mikey177]

How different is day glow blue from the color Spyderco uses in the Seki lineup?

[Manixguy@1994]

It is not only divers that need corrosion resistance. Hunters need it just as badly and sometimes more so. Being out in the environments that hunters are normally in will rust a knife very quickly, especially in humid and rainy areas. Plus, blood is really hard on blades. Temperature changes, going from cold to warm at a camp will quickly rust steel (as every soldier knows). I would like to see LC 200 N and Magnacut offered with orange scales. Bright day glow blue would also be very nice. These colors are easy to see if dropped on the ground.

I think an upgraded Moran in both variations in Orange and either steel would be fantastic and not break the bank since molds are already available . The model has fine attributes for hunting and outdoor activities. MG2

[KeepCalm&Carrion]

Yeah I do wish that all Salt knives would be offered in any of the three current colors (black, yellow, green) as well as a hunter/emergency orange color (ala the Spyderhawk, Rock Salt, etc.).

Maybe that would work best as a sprint run? An orange G10 Siren in PE Magnacut released ahead of Fall hunting season sounds nice, but that's just me wishing again.

[Doc Dan]

I think an Endela would make a great folding hunter and so would the Stretch. A Moran fixed blade with Magnacut would be sweet, too, or move that Bow River to another factory and make it with LC200N or Magnacut.

[Doc Dan]

How different is day glow blue from the color Spyderco uses in the Seki lineup?
delica blue vg10 01.jpg

Similar, but brighter. Kind of like this:

[Evil D]

I needed it for towing, being outside in every kind of weather, sometimes for an hour+ at a time pulling cars out of weird situations, I'd get soaked to the skin or even in rain gear that just holds the humidity to your body. On a hot summer day in the rain I could spot rust even S90V. People's PH level also differs, some of us have way more salt in our perspiration and that's enough to rust the average steel.

[SaltyCaribbeanDfly]

It is not only divers that need corrosion resistance. Hunters need it just as badly and sometimes more so. Being out in the environments that hunters are normally in will rust a knife very quickly, especially in humid and rainy areas. Plus, blood is really hard on blades. Temperature changes, going from cold to warm at a camp will quickly rust steel (as every soldier knows). I would like to see LC 200 N and Magnacut offered with orange scales. Bright day glow blue would also be very nice. These colors are easy to see if dropped on the ground.

I think an upgraded Moran in both variations in Orange and either steel would be fantastic and not break the bank since molds are already available . The model has fine attributes for hunting and outdoor activities. MG2

Agreed

[Mushroom]

It's not "only divers" who need it but saltwater environments are definitely the prevailing setting for which it is needed. Corrosion resistance can certainly be useful in other scenarios but it is simply outmatched by the need for it in a real saltwater environment.

Don’t regular stainless steel handle that need pretty well?

Absolutely and in some situations they're probably the better choice overall due to better edge retention than the super corrosion resistant steels like H1/H2.

[James Y]

I'm betting that someday there will eventually be blade steels created with H1/H2 levels of toughness and corrosion resistance, that can also take and hold an edge as well as any "super" steels. And miraculously, will also be as easy to sharpen as, say, VG-10, or LC200N. I know that's a contradiction, but who knows what is possible? Steels that we have and take for granted now were unimaginable less than 40 years ago. As long as there is the impetus to grow and evolve, and there is a perceived need for something and the inspiration to develop it, why not?

And even if and when such a 'miracle steel' is created, at some point there will be people who say that it, too, is no longer good enough.

Jim

[pinchyfisher]

I think an Endela would make a great folding hunter and so would the Stretch. A Moran fixed blade with Magnacut would be sweet, too, or move that Bow River to another factory and make it with LC200N or Magnacut.

Agreed 100% on the topic in general and with your specific model suggestions. Endela and Stetch are a great size for a folding hunter. I carry a VG10 stretch xl while hunting, mostly because of the belly and lack of liners (less opportunites for rust and goo).

A standard Stretch would better fit my needs in a salt configuration. I don't need the extra length of the XL, particularly while field dressing. Stretch XL Salt PE H2 doesn't seem optimal for lots of cutting.

I will say my VG10 Stretch XL held an great edge through processing multiple deer and has held its own as far as corrosion in not great conditions.

[spydergoat]

I like the topic- how about Magnacut stretch 2xl that is not yellow

[standy99]

Making a mule in toxic green (dayglow green) and orange liners and pins at the moment.

[standy99]

Making a mule in toxic green (dayglow green) and orange liners and pins at the moment. Pretty sure it’s AEB-L steel

[James Y]

I live an easy walk from the ocean, maybe half a mile, and I never go into the sea anymore. But I still appreciate a knife I can carry and use that only requires the bare minimum of maintenance. That's not me being lazy; when I'm doing activities in places where the knife gets soaking wet, but there is no immediate way to dry it off completely before putting it away. I know that for some, the maintenance is part of the knife experience they enjoy, but I'm not one of them, although I do care for my knives. In the past, I've seen some posts that go like this (and I'm paraphrasing): "You don't need a Salt knife unless you're going into the ocean with it. Otherwise, you're better off with a non-Salt knife." Which isn't a really accurate assessment of everyone's needs and/or preferences.

Jim

[hobbyist]

Endela salt. Magnacut? both SE and PE.

would bright white scales work so that folks can dye them whatever neon whatever they wanted?