Does Spyderco warranty LC200N rust?

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Does Spyderco warranty LC200N rust?

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I went to pack the knife today. I must not have cleaned it well before storage. I think I had it at the beach last and cut a food package open with it. Before and after cleaning pics. Does Spyderco warranty this?Image
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I do not believe this is something that would fall under their warranty coverage but it looks like it cleaned up well. Honest question, what are you expecting the warranty to cover in this situation?
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Looks like lc200n out doing gods work to me, given the circumstances. X2 on what you're hoping to get out of a warranty claim? If you mean would they clean it up, probably, because their warranty department has a history of being cool like that. If you mean are you going to get a refund for light surface rust after being neglectful, no.
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Is that actual rust on the lc200n itself or on something that was on the surface but not the actual steel?
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That’ll buff right out.

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Mushroom wrote:
Sat Nov 16, 2024 1:52 pm
I do not believe this is something that would fall under their warranty coverage but it looks like it cleaned up well. Honest question, what are you expecting the warranty to cover in this situation?
I guess I expected it to be rust proof. Is it a flaw in the steel causing rust? Maybe they would swap it out? I don’t believe I should be cleaning rust off a salt knife.
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Re: Does Spyderco warranty LC200N rust?

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Wedly24 wrote:
Sat Nov 16, 2024 5:01 pm
Mushroom wrote:
Sat Nov 16, 2024 1:52 pm
I do not believe this is something that would fall under their warranty coverage but it looks like it cleaned up well. Honest question, what are you expecting the warranty to cover in this situation?
I guess I expected it to be rust proof. Is it a flaw in the steel causing rust? Maybe they would swap it out? I don’t believe I should be cleaning rust off a salt knife.
All steel will rust, no matter how corrosion resistant it may be. You bathe LC200N and Magnacut with saltwater and pack them away for a while and that is exactly what id expect.
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The warranty covers manufacturing defects, so no it probably doesn't apply here. You could try using tuf-glide to clean the blade and prevent corrosion, just add a couple drops and wipe off the blade before storing.
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wrdwrght wrote:
Sat Nov 16, 2024 2:17 pm
That’ll buff right out.

For future reference, don’t destroy the evidence…
That’s funny! I was like there’s no way this is rust. Let’s clean this goo off.
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jmj3esq wrote:
Sat Nov 16, 2024 5:17 pm
Wedly24 wrote:
Sat Nov 16, 2024 5:01 pm
Mushroom wrote:
Sat Nov 16, 2024 1:52 pm
I do not believe this is something that would fall under their warranty coverage but it looks like it cleaned up well. Honest question, what are you expecting the warranty to cover in this situation?
I guess I expected it to be rust proof. Is it a flaw in the steel causing rust? Maybe they would swap it out? I don’t believe I should be cleaning rust off a salt knife.
All steel will rust, no matter how corrosion resistant it may be. You bathe LC200N and Magnacut with saltwater and pack them away for a while and that is exactly what id expect.
That’s unfortunate with LC. It wasn’t even in the ocean. Just at the beach cutting firewood bags and food packaging. I even thought I rinsed it. I saw rust and second guessed myself.
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spydergoat wrote:
Sat Nov 16, 2024 5:39 pm
The warranty covers manufacturing defects, so no it probably doesn't apply here. You could try using tuf-glide to clean the blade and prevent corrosion, just add a couple drops and wipe off the blade before storing.
I have the liquid and the blue cloth. I wipe down my knives before storage. I clean my tool steel knives more frequently. I usually just hand wash my LC knives in the sink and dry them off.
I just expected more from LC200n.
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Re: Does Spyderco warranty LC200N rust?

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Idk anything about their warranty. However, I have 5 different lc200n knives. I'm on a boat In the ocean 5 days a week, often diving. I rarely rinse my knives and the only corrosion I've seen was when I initially brought my pac salt into the ocean. There was a very tiny spot similar to yours. After getting pissed and cleaning it, it hasn't happened again. I've read through the forums and I believe it was some particles of the cutting wheel or something else that the factory that was embedded on the surface. It's been years and I've used my autonomy 2 every day at work and forgotten about my atlantic salt in my dive bag, which is damp more often than not, and neither has rusted. I've gotten to the point where I think people discount the corrosion resistance of lc200n
Long story short, I wouldn't be concerned once you get that small bit of surface rust off.
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Wedly24 wrote:
Sat Nov 16, 2024 1:13 pm
...and after cleaning pics.
This is surprising, because I expect LC200N to be practically rust proof in normal day-to-day situations.

Curious, how/with what did you clean it?
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I wonder if this will be a one and done situation- surface contamination from grinding possibly? I had a very similar situation with an LC200N UKPK shortly after getting it- rusted after cutting food. Once I cleaned that up, hasn't happened again... including after neglecting at the beach.

I hope you have the same experience
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Hi Elcapitan, PinchyFisher,

Welcome to our forum.

Hey Wedly,

Did you you clean it off? LC is resistant enough that you should be able to clean it off. If you are really concerned, you might contact Customer Service. We'd probably clean it off for you and send it back. Might be faster and easier to clean it yourself? Something like Flitz is also good for cleaning blades.

Also, H2 is probably the best at rust resistance.

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Brock O Lee wrote:
Sat Nov 16, 2024 8:18 pm
Wedly24 wrote:
Sat Nov 16, 2024 1:13 pm
...and after cleaning pics.
This is surprising, because I expect LC200N to be practically rust proof in normal day-to-day situations.

Curious, how/with what did you clean it?
Dish scrubber got some off. I used some of the brown scotch brite and that removed the dark stuff. That’s where the scratches came from.
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pinchyfisher wrote:
Sat Nov 16, 2024 9:03 pm
I wonder if this will be a one and done situation- surface contamination from grinding possibly? I had a very similar situation with an LC200N UKPK shortly after getting it- rusted after cutting food. Once I cleaned that up, hasn't happened again... including after neglecting at the beach.

I hope you have the same experience
I’m hoping that’s it. Didn’t seem deep like other pitting I’ve seen.
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sal wrote:
Sat Nov 16, 2024 9:32 pm
Hi Elcapitan, PinchyFisher,

Welcome to our forum.

Hey Wedly,

Did you you clean it off? LC is resistant enough that you should be able to clean it off. If you are really concerned, you might contact Customer Service. We'd probably clean it off for you and send it back. Might be faster and easier to clean it yourself? Something like Flitz is also good for cleaning blades.

Also, H2 is probably the best at rust resistance.

sal
Sal, all the dark stuff cleaned off with a dish scrubber and some scotch brite. Just some surface spots where the rust was. Flitz gets mentioned a lot. I’ll have to pick some up. If I have any other rust issues I’ll contact customer service.
Thanks for responding.
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pinchyfisher wrote:
Sat Nov 16, 2024 9:03 pm
I wonder if this will be a one and done situation- surface contamination from grinding possibly? I had a very similar situation with an LC200N UKPK shortly after getting it- rusted after cutting food. Once I cleaned that up, hasn't happened again...
This - just surface "contamination" from the grinding wheel with another, less corrosion resistant steel - is what can very occasionally happen from all I read here.
So I'd be rather positive that the issue will not return with the knife of op too.

The two LC knives I use extensively never show any sign of rust, not even after cutting salty/acid food and not cleaning the blade for quite a while
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I nailed my Caribbean to a tree for 9 weeks with several kinds of gunk on the blade to test corrosion resistance

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