2025 Discontinued Products List

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I'll echo surprise about the Lil Native backlock and leaf jumper. Probably pick up an Emphasis; should've done that a while back.

Overall not too many models this year though, especially compared to last year dropping so many wharncliffes and SE models. Hopefully that means Spyderco's got a good batting average with the current lineup and not having to spend too much on churn or products the market doesn't end up liking.
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Thanks Taz ! Shocked to see the Leaf Jumper but just have to move on . MG2
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nerdlock wrote:
Tue Oct 29, 2024 6:03 pm
Wow! Pretty surprised at the Leaf Jumper and the backlock Lil Native. Are these the shortest production runs Spyderco has ever done until discontinuation, or were there other models that had a shorter lifespan?

Kinda sad for the Leaf jumper, I think it was only out for a couple of years?

On second thought, I think discontinuing the backlock LN may have something to do with the LW version coming out. I left my backlock at home on the other side of the world; probably a good idea to buy one or a few when the online seconds sale or black friday sales come around (if it ever happens again).
I had a feeling the FRN version would replace the G10 versions. I do agree though and I'm also considering some backup G10 backlock Lil Natives.

Also to your question, the Manix 2 Backlock lasted only a little over a year. Out one year, discontinued the next.
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Was wondering when this list was going to show up this year. Time to stock up on Leafjumper, sad to see the Better Delica never caught on. Was really hopeful we'd be moving into a handle forward future. Not too surprising though after the Rockjumper got the axe last year during the great wharncliffe extinction.
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Fastidiotus wrote:
Tue Oct 29, 2024 10:53 pm
Was wondering when this list was going to show up this year. Time to stock up on Leafjumper, sad to see the Better Delica never caught on. Was really hopeful we'd be moving into a handle forward future. Not too surprising though after the Rockjumper got the axe last year during the great wharncliffe extinction.
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I know…..that sure didn’t last for very long.

I already have the VG-10 PE version and had planned on eventually buying the K390 PE. I had to bump my plans up and ordered one on closeout from Knife Center yesterday as soon as I saw the Disco list. They say they are out of stock but should ship within 2-3 days. We shall see.
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C101PGY2 - MANIX 2 GRAY LIGHTWEIGHT MAXAMET PLAINEDGE - hope this is just a harbinger of the coming of the 15V lightweight
C262PBLK390 - LEAFJUMPER BLUE LIGHTWEIGHT K390 PLAINEDGE and C262SBLK390 - LEAFJUMPER BLUE LIGHTWEIGHT K390 SPYDEREDGE - sad to see those go, might be the last push that makes me finally buy it
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Super disappointed about the Leafjumpers! :disappointed I was saving up to get one in the next couple of months. Maybe I will get lucky and have the funds before all the dealer stock sells out. Was wanting this as my first SE model, don't know what Plan B will be if I can't get one. Maybe wait for the new catalog? :spiral-eyes
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phaust wrote:
Tue Oct 29, 2024 4:31 pm
JSumm wrote:
Tue Oct 29, 2024 2:14 pm
Sad for the Leaf Jumpers. Curious why those never caught on above the other Seki models. Maybe too big of a hump or maybe the lack of jimping? Or is it just the existing Seki models are so established and not enough new interest in them for new models?
It was super exciting for me when they said they'd be doing a no choil model for those of us who like the blade going right up to the handle. A big part of that preference though is better blade to handle ratio, and the design has a worse ratio than your regular Delica. It just missed one of the main points for why that type of design is desirable. Throw on top the meh QC and quality out of Japan and the ridiculous prices (at MAP), and it went from exciting to easy pass.
I can relate to much of what you're pointing out here.
If I remember correctly, the improved blade to handle ratio (or rather edge to handle ratio) was even one of the attributes of handle forward that Spyderco used to pitch this model.
Though I somewhat disagree with your comparison to the Delica, because the edge to handle ratio is actually somewhat improved on the Jumpers compared to the Delica, and in all fairness that's what you should compare given that much of the design philosophy with handle forward is to hide the ricasso portion of the blade inside the handle.
That said, they didn't utilize the full potential of the handle to get the best possible ratio.

Personally I think the blade on my Rockjumper is more than adequate and rather the handle that was unnecessarily long, so with the current Jumpers being what they are, my hope was rather that the concept would be successful enough to warrant a smaller version. And this time with improved edge to handle ratio.

So my disappointment with this discontinuation isn't so much that the Leafjumper model specifically disappears, but that the handle forward concept is likely to die with it. Or in the best case shelved for the foreseeable future.

One last objection / reservation with regards to your assessment is with regards to QC. While probably more to do with the design than differentiation in QC, my impression is that the Rockjumper was a notch above the Endura family in perceived quality. So in that regard, if the Jumper-family was extended to more sizes and blade shapes, I could easily see myself pick the Jumper counterparts for their improved ergonomics, ratios and general impression, even at a (reasonable) price premium.
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Mushroom wrote:
Tue Oct 29, 2024 8:30 pm
nerdlock wrote:
Tue Oct 29, 2024 6:03 pm
Wow! Pretty surprised at the Leaf Jumper and the backlock Lil Native. Are these the shortest production runs Spyderco has ever done until discontinuation, or were there other models that had a shorter lifespan?

Kinda sad for the Leaf jumper, I think it was only out for a couple of years?

On second thought, I think discontinuing the backlock LN may have something to do with the LW version coming out. I left my backlock at home on the other side of the world; probably a good idea to buy one or a few when the online seconds sale or black friday sales come around (if it ever happens again).
I had a feeling the FRN version would replace the G10 versions. I do agree though and I'm also considering some backup G10 backlock Lil Natives.

Also to your question, the Manix 2 Backlock lasted only a little over a year. Out one year, discontinued the next.
One of the things I truly am disappointed in is the fact that the LN backlock never received any kind of sprint or steel update.
I was hoping it would get at least a K390 treatment, but I guess sales just aren't that hot for this variant, compared to the comp lock version.

I just have a feeling though... that someday, people will view this LN version like the backlock Manix... a superior variant of a mainline release, and highly desirable in the aftermarket.
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nerdlock wrote:
Wed Oct 30, 2024 8:53 pm
One of the things I truly am disappointed in is the fact that the LN backlock never received any kind of sprint or steel update.
I was hoping it would get at least a K390 treatment, but I guess sales just aren't that hot for this variant, compared to the comp lock version.

I just have a feeling though... that someday, people will view this LN version like the backlock Manix... a superior variant of a mainline release, and highly desirable in the aftermarket.
Isn't the LN LW a back lock? Maybe that's the future for the variant.
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I’m sad to see the Leafjumper go, but hopeful that since the molds already exist we’ll see a Saltjumper eventually. 🙂

Edit: I forgot that the Leafjumper has liners. I typed this pre-coffee, my bad.
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SchoonerBum wrote:
Thu Oct 31, 2024 4:31 am
I’m sad to see the Leafjumper go, but hopeful that since the molds already exist we’ll see a Saltjumper eventually. 🙂
Hate to be a party pooper, but I don't see much of a chance for that happening.
A linered backlock salt is not something we're likely to see in any shape or form, much less so in a model that already failed in it's non salt variant.
Personally I don't have much interest in a backlock salt with liners anyways, but I'll welcome a return of the handle forward backlock no matter what flavour it comes in, even a Rock-/Leaf-/Sheepjumper salt
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The Vallotton Sub Hilt came back in stock at some of the EU retailers earlier this month. Might be one of the last chances to buy one...
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aicolainen wrote:
Thu Oct 31, 2024 5:10 am
SchoonerBum wrote:
Thu Oct 31, 2024 4:31 am
I’m sad to see the Leafjumper go, but hopeful that since the molds already exist we’ll see a Saltjumper eventually. 🙂
Hate to be a party pooper, but I don't see much of a chance for that happening.
A linered backlock salt is not something we're likely to see in any shape or form, much less so in a model that already failed in it's non salt variant.
Personally I don't have much interest in a backlock salt with liners anyways, but I'll welcome a return of the handle forward backlock no matter what flavour it comes in, even a Rock-/Leaf-/Sheepjumper salt
Oh, yeah, you’re totally right. It’s early in the morning and I forgot that they have liners. I guess the molds aren’t made. It was a nice dream for a little while.
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I hope the demise of the LeafJumper doesn't mean the end of knives with the cutting edge to the handle. I don't care for choils unless absolutely necessary.
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SchoonerBum wrote:
Thu Oct 31, 2024 4:31 am
I’m sad to see the Leafjumper go, but hopeful that since the molds already exist we’ll see a Saltjumper eventually. 🙂

I am afraid the already existing molds won´t help with a Saltjumper, as much as I´d like to see one:

A "salty" Leafjumper most likely would be linerless FRN, like all the other Seki Salts - and this would require new molds... :neutral
(I always thought that the Jumpers would have had a better start and chance on the market if they had come out as linerless Salt knives in the first place - maybe in a for Salt knives new, less marine, but "outdoorsy/ mountain" color like orange).

/ I am REALLY sad to see the Jumpers and perhaps the backlock handle forward concept go... partly because this can´t mean good things for the larger versions Cliffjumper and Sequoia (the "backlock Caribbean")
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Wartstein wrote:
Tue Nov 05, 2024 12:44 am
SchoonerBum wrote:
Thu Oct 31, 2024 4:31 am
I’m sad to see the Leafjumper go, but hopeful that since the molds already exist we’ll see a Saltjumper eventually. 🙂

I am afraid the already existing molds won´t help with a Saltjumper, as much as I´d like to see one:

A "salty" Leafjumper most likely would be linerless FRN, like all the other Seki Salts - and this would require new molds... :neutral
(I always thought that the Jumpers would have had a better start and chance on the market if they had come out as linerless Salt knives in the first place - maybe in a for Salt knives new, less marine, but "outdoorsy/ mountain" color like orange).

/ I am REALLY sad to see the Jumpers and perhaps the backlock handle forward concept go... partly because this can´t mean good things for the larger versions Cliffjumper and Sequoia (the "backlock Caribbean")
I agree and also wish a dedicated Salt version had come out first , seems that would have been a better niche for market . I have my fingers crossed for the larger versions but may not sadly happen . Dan
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Sad to see the midbacklock G10 Lil' Native going, there's something about the lockback and linerless G10 combo that makes it a perfect design, even if not for many people's needs/preferences. I guess we're unlikely to ever see a wharny version in that configuration. Hopefully we won't have to wait too long for a Salt version of the midbacklock Lil' Native LW.
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Surprised & sad to see the C101PGY2 go. The lightweight with Maxamet blade is my favorite version of the Manix2 platform.
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That one was a bit surprising. One would have thought that particular model would be a best selling Maxamet model.
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