We don't actually need to Magnacut *all* the knives

[Manixguy@1994]

MagnaCut'em All! Let Sales sort'em out!

I have to agree as long as they introduce a Caribbean I will be a happy camper . I have passed so far hoping the Caribbean will resurrect in this steel . I won’t pass a G10 Manix either . Dan

[terryjohnpratt]

We dont actually need titanium either, but many go Waco over it.
Humans are over rated. Of course that is my opinion. Cheers

[ZrowsN1s]

It's weird, I kept waiting for Spyderco to release their Magnacut, by the time they did the market was saturated with it. Even Leatherman. Somewhere along the way I lost my fomo. I don't own any Magnacut, I'm sure I'll get some eventually, no danger of missing out though.

[Evil D]

It's weird, I kept waiting for Spyderco to release their Magnacut, by the time they did the market was saturated with it. Even Leatherman. Somewhere along the way I lost my fomo. I don't own any Magnacut, I'm sure I'll get some eventually, no danger of missing out though.

Leatherman are operating on some really strong substances, trying to get close to $300 for the blacked out Arc. That's a $150 tool at best with a $130 markup for the blade. They're really hoping people are willing to pay multitool plus knife money for that MagnaCut blade, and maybe if I were limited to just one tool and couldn't carry a knife with it I might bite but I already have a modded Supertool 300 that suits me better.


As for MagnaCut I'm personally way past the honeymoon phase and I still absolutely love it. I use my MagnaCut mule everyday and it still impresses me. It wouldn't take the place of every steel for me but I'd be perfectly content with it being the standard steel for every knife. I don't feel that you'd lose anything if suddenly VG10 and S30V and all the other similar steels in this range suddenly disappeared and all you had to choose from was MagnaCut. I can't see a scenario where making a model in MagnaCut hurts sales.

Right now I really think the "mic drop" move that Spyderco could do with this steel would be to (for once) publish their hardness numbers. The initial hype of this steel quickly turned into a conversation of "yeah it's great but at what hardness" and we've seen people doing independent testing and I think they need to take back control of that discussion and put the numbers out there. Kershaw did this with their MagnaCut and people love it (me included) because I feel a lot more confident about my MagnaCut Livewire that they showed tested around 64HRC than I do about Leatherman's MagnaCut Arc that's reported to be around 60HRC.

[Jesla]

It's weird, I kept waiting for Spyderco to release their Magnacut, by the time they did the market was saturated with it. Even Leatherman. Somewhere along the way I lost my fomo. I don't own any Magnacut, I'm sure I'll get some eventually, no danger of missing out though.

I have one..one magnacut and I wish I had bought a steel I already have in multiples.

I don’t simp for magnacut.

[mikey177]

I'd be in for a Magnacut Province or Darn Dao.

[Farmer]

It's weird, I kept waiting for Spyderco to release their Magnacut, by the time they did the market was saturated with it. Even Leatherman.

"Even Leatherman" speaks volumes! There's still no Magnacut in the Seki line-up - how hard can it be?

[vivi]

. I don't feel that you'd lose anything if suddenly VG10 and S30V and all the other similar steels in this range suddenly disappeared and all you had to choose from was MagnaCut. I can't see a scenario where making a model in MagnaCut hurts sales.

Price, maybe?

The magnacut Chief was the first knife Spyderco released in the steel I was interested in. But it's a fart under $200 for a linerless FRN folder with clip issues and QC concerns.

So that means a magnacut Manix XL, Police 4, Military 2 etc. will be a minimum of $250, and the Chief Lightweight itself will blow past $200 at the next yearly price increase.

I know I'm unusual compared to others in that I'm not willing to drop over $200 for one pocket knife, so that means I'll probably never own a Magnacut Spyderco. Unless there's Chiefs at an online seconds sale I suppose.

I was curious to try it but I'm happy with H1 and LC200N to be honest. I'll live.

[RyanY]

I just really want a magnacut spydiechef.

[ZrowsN1s]

It's weird, I kept waiting for Spyderco to release their Magnacut, by the time they did the market was saturated with it. Even Leatherman. Somewhere along the way I lost my fomo. I don't own any Magnacut, I'm sure I'll get some eventually, no danger of missing out though.

Leatherman are operating on some really strong substances, trying to get close to $300 for the blacked out Arc. That's a $150 tool at best with a $130 markup for the blade. They're really hoping people are willing to pay multitool plus knife money for that MagnaCut blade, and maybe if I were limited to just one tool and couldn't carry a knife with it I might bite but I already have a modded Supertool 300 that suits me better.


As for MagnaCut I'm personally way past the honeymoon phase and I still absolutely love it. I use my MagnaCut mule everyday and it still impresses me. It wouldn't take the place of every steel for me but I'd be perfectly content with it being the standard steel for every knife. I don't feel that you'd lose anything if suddenly VG10 and S30V and all the other similar steels in this range suddenly disappeared and all you had to choose from was MagnaCut. I can't see a scenario where making a model in MagnaCut hurts sales.

Right now I really think the "mic drop" move that Spyderco could do with this steel would be to (for once) publish their hardness numbers. The initial hype of this steel quickly turned into a conversation of "yeah it's great but at what hardness" and we've seen people doing independent testing and I think they need to take back control of that discussion and put the numbers out there. Kershaw did this with their MagnaCut and people love it (me included) because I feel a lot more confident about my MagnaCut Livewire that they showed tested around 64HRC than I do about Leatherman's MagnaCut Arc that's reported to be around 60HRC.

It's good to hear that Magnacut is performing for you over time. I appreciate the comment D. Sounds like it's a solid steel, but ya, definitely not paying Leatherman prices, I've already got one of their Ti 'Charge' Leathermans with S30V. I'll probably end up with a Native 5 down the road.

[Humint]

On paper, magnacut is almost the perfect steel for me. At this point in my life, due to having young children, cutting up food on the go for the kids is by far the main daily task for my EDC knife. Having the ability to run the knife underwater without regard to keeping water out of the pivot or having to immediately and carefully wipe the blade is a priority. Toughness also comes into play as I have cut food, more times than I care to admit, on ceramic plates. I also want edge retention close to, if not greater than s30v (my favorite steel for many years).

Magnacut, on paper, comes very close to my priorities. So much so in fact that I am taking a leap of faith and I have sold off my entire knife collection (including Spydercos and CRKs) save a few Swiss Army knives and just took delivery of the only two folding knives that I will carry for the foreseaable future, a Native Chief Salt in Magnacut and a Native Salt in Magnacut. I plan on really using these knives to focus in on Magnacut (the longer Chief blade will be helpful to see the attributes), how the Native family works as an EDC and work knife and how the steel compares to my initial hype on paper.

I may start another thread dedicated to my experience with both the knives and Spyderco's Magnacut

[Brock O Lee]

It's weird, I kept waiting for Spyderco to release their Magnacut, by the time they did the market was saturated with it. Even Leatherman. Somewhere along the way I lost my fomo.

I also lost my FOMO after I got a few from Chris Reeve in Magnacut, because I am completely satisfied by them. CRK was an early adopter, with Magnacut heat treated hard (and IMO correctly) from the start. That removed the one major thing that I disliked about CRK, their reputation for "low" heat treatments at a high price.

I like the steel a lot and carry it often. Even got the PM2. Itch scratched hard.

I would not mind to see more Magnacut as a "standard" steel in the line, as long as it is heat treated appropriately. It fills a certain niche, and could unseat many similar steels playing in that same area. I do not however see it replace most of the other interesting steels offered by Spyderco. Variety is the spice of life.

[Naperville]

I'd be in for a Magnacut Province or Darn Dao.

YES!

And although the costs would jump right now, in 5 to 10 years I hope that the low end entry-level steel is Magnacut or something better. It just makes sense.

[Danke]

I want a Dyad with 2x Magnacut.

[Freediver]

It's weird, I kept waiting for Spyderco to release their Magnacut, by the time they did the market was saturated with it. Even Leatherman. Somewhere along the way I lost my fomo. I don't own any Magnacut, I'm sure I'll get some eventually, no danger of missing out though.

Leatherman are operating on some really strong substances, trying to get close to $300 for the blacked out Arc. That's a $150 tool at best with a $130 markup for the blade. They're really hoping people are willing to pay multitool plus knife money for that MagnaCut blade, and maybe if I were limited to just one tool and couldn't carry a knife with it I might bite but I already have a modded Supertool 300 that suits me better.


As for MagnaCut I'm personally way past the honeymoon phase and I still absolutely love it. I use my MagnaCut mule everyday and it still impresses me. It wouldn't take the place of every steel for me but I'd be perfectly content with it being the standard steel for every knife. I don't feel that you'd lose anything if suddenly VG10 and S30V and all the other similar steels in this range suddenly disappeared and all you had to choose from was MagnaCut. I can't see a scenario where making a model in MagnaCut hurts sales.

Right now I really think the "mic drop" move that Spyderco could do with this steel would be to (for once) publish their hardness numbers. The initial hype of this steel quickly turned into a conversation of "yeah it's great but at what hardness" and we've seen people doing independent testing and I think they need to take back control of that discussion and put the numbers out there. Kershaw did this with their MagnaCut and people love it (me included) because I feel a lot more confident about my MagnaCut Livewire that they showed tested around 64HRC than I do about Leatherman's MagnaCut Arc that's reported to be around 60HRC.

I grabbed one, worth it to me. For the amount of tools and features it has it is well worth $275. Spydercos are pushing this nowadays easily as well.

[Evil D]

It's weird, I kept waiting for Spyderco to release their Magnacut, by the time they did the market was saturated with it. Even Leatherman. Somewhere along the way I lost my fomo. I don't own any Magnacut, I'm sure I'll get some eventually, no danger of missing out though.

Leatherman are operating on some really strong substances, trying to get close to $300 for the blacked out Arc. That's a $150 tool at best with a $130 markup for the blade. They're really hoping people are willing to pay multitool plus knife money for that MagnaCut blade, and maybe if I were limited to just one tool and couldn't carry a knife with it I might bite but I already have a modded Supertool 300 that suits me better.


As for MagnaCut I'm personally way past the honeymoon phase and I still absolutely love it. I use my MagnaCut mule everyday and it still impresses me. It wouldn't take the place of every steel for me but I'd be perfectly content with it being the standard steel for every knife. I don't feel that you'd lose anything if suddenly VG10 and S30V and all the other similar steels in this range suddenly disappeared and all you had to choose from was MagnaCut. I can't see a scenario where making a model in MagnaCut hurts sales.

Right now I really think the "mic drop" move that Spyderco could do with this steel would be to (for once) publish their hardness numbers. The initial hype of this steel quickly turned into a conversation of "yeah it's great but at what hardness" and we've seen people doing independent testing and I think they need to take back control of that discussion and put the numbers out there. Kershaw did this with their MagnaCut and people love it (me included) because I feel a lot more confident about my MagnaCut Livewire that they showed tested around 64HRC than I do about Leatherman's MagnaCut Arc that's reported to be around 60HRC.

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I grabbed one, worth it to me. For the amount of tools and features it has it is well worth $275. Spydercos are pushing this nowadays easily as well.

I can't tell you you're wrong for liking it, I just can't justify $125 for the blade vs the cost of a P4. The tool set may be better than a P4 but the tool options are also a whole can of worms, I'm convinced that Leatherman intentionally make their tool layouts "almost perfect". You can't please everyone but they surely know what most people want by now, it makes no sense that they don't do the Arc tool combo on other models. It's also suspicious that the P4 was (seemingly) discontinued or perpetually out of stock right after the Arc came out, leaving you with only the more expensive option.

We all have our methods of justifying cost. If I ever see a really good sale on one I might pick one up. I almost never use multitool blade so it's just not a big selling point for me.

What's funny is I have about $300 invested into this Supertool 300 build, so it's not just about the money. I call it the Supertool $300

[SpyderEdgeForever]

David, how likely is my dream of Magnacut made lockblade or fixed blade folders for 20 to 50 US Dollars as their retail MSRP ?

[Evil D]

David, how likely is my dream of Magnacut made lockblade or fixed blade folders for 20 to 50 US Dollars as their retail MSRP ?

I think about as likely as an honest trustworthy government

[SpyderEdgeForever]

David, how likely is my dream of Magnacut made lockblade or fixed blade folders for 20 to 50 US Dollars as their retail MSRP ?

I think about as likely as an honest trustworthy government

[270ultimate]

It's weird, I kept waiting for Spyderco to release their Magnacut, by the time they did the market was saturated with it. Even Leatherman. Somewhere along the way I lost my fomo. I don't own any Magnacut, I'm sure I'll get some eventually, no danger of missing out though.

Leatherman are operating on some really strong substances, trying to get close to $300 for the blacked out Arc. That's a $150 tool at best with a $130 markup for the blade. They're really hoping people are willing to pay multitool plus knife money for that MagnaCut blade, and maybe if I were limited to just one tool and couldn't carry a knife with it I might bite but I already have a modded Supertool 300 that suits me better.


As for MagnaCut I'm personally way past the honeymoon phase and I still absolutely love it. I use my MagnaCut mule everyday and it still impresses me. It wouldn't take the place of every steel for me but I'd be perfectly content with it being the standard steel for every knife. I don't feel that you'd lose anything if suddenly VG10 and S30V and all the other similar steels in this range suddenly disappeared and all you had to choose from was MagnaCut. I can't see a scenario where making a model in MagnaCut hurts sales.

Right now I really think the "mic drop" move that Spyderco could do with this steel would be to (for once) publish their hardness numbers. The initial hype of this steel quickly turned into a conversation of "yeah it's great but at what hardness" and we've seen people doing independent testing and I think they need to take back control of that discussion and put the numbers out there. Kershaw did this with their MagnaCut and people love it (me included) because I feel a lot more confident about my MagnaCut Livewire that they showed tested around 64HRC than I do about Leatherman's MagnaCut Arc that's reported to be around 60HRC.

IMG_2027.jpeg
I grabbed one, worth it to me. For the amount of tools and features it has it is well worth $275. Spydercos are pushing this nowadays easily as well.

I can't tell you you're wrong for liking it, I just can't justify $125 for the blade vs the cost of a P4. The tool set may be better than a P4 but the tool options are also a whole can of worms, I'm convinced that Leatherman intentionally make their tool layouts "almost perfect". You can't please everyone but they surely know what most people want by now, it makes no sense that they don't do the Arc tool combo on other models. It's also suspicious that the P4 was (seemingly) discontinued or perpetually out of stock right after the Arc came out, leaving you with only the more expensive option.

We all have our methods of justifying cost. If I ever see a really good sale on one I might pick one up. I almost never use multitool blade so it's just not a big selling point for me.

What's funny is I have about $300 invested into this Supertool 300 build, so it's not just about the money. I call it the Supertool $300

That’s a pretty sweet build. You able to break it down? (Forgive me if you’ve already done so somewhere.)