VG10 is the Foundational Steel of Spyderco?

[SpyderEdgeForever]

Hi SEF,

Generally speaking if our customers want it, we'll make it.

sal

Thank you, sir! I appreciate you and everyone at Spyderco !

[vivi]

The foundation steel of Spyderco is Gingami 1. That's the steel they built their reputation on. VG 10 was a later improvement, adopted after about 15 years of manufacturing. For the first 10 years of knife making, Spyderco didn't even have a US facility. Everything was made to their specifications by makers in Japan.

Oh yes. I looked into those and I have an Endura with Gingami 1 or 2 steel. Its very good. I was told though it is like AUS 6 which is not as hard as AUS8 and VG10. Did Spyderco ever use VG1 or only the other guy did?

GIN-1/GIN-2 is a much better knife steel than AUS-6.

I'd like to see it make a come back.

[SpyderEdgeForever]

I was watching a tv show from 1991 sal and it reminded me of you introducing the Endura around that time. It was like a magical treat, a quality lightweight strong sharp pocket knife that opens with one hand. Thank you!

[p_atrick]

Hi SEF,

Generally speaking if our customers want it, we'll make it.

sal

Sal, I’m trying to gauge this statement above. I’d love to try out some SPY27, but I’d like for it to be in a Delica. In my mind, one of your iconic models will surely get your proprietary steel. So I thought it’s just a matter of time. I should wait patiently.

In light of your comment, I’m wondering if I should make myself into a “squeaky wheel” to register customer demand. But also don’t want to be a nuisance. Thoughts?

[bob-atlatl]

I have the SPY27 mule, like its features, and would like it to be in more folders.

[Doc Dan]

Isn't BD1 Gingami by another name?

SPY27 is a fine replacement for VG10 in my opinion.

[Humint]

Hi SEF,

Generally speaking if our customers want it, we'll make it.

sal

Mr. Glesser,

Please forgive my highjacking of this thread as it relates to VG-10 (one of my top 3 steel choices of all time). I love Spyderco's response to their customer base. With that said, please, please, please make a Native Lightweight Scout model (that sits between the Native Chief and Native size) oh and if I could go one further, please allow it in a lightweight frn/frcp salt model with Magnacut

[sal]

Hi SEF,

Generally speaking if our customers want it, we'll make it.

sal

Sal, I’m trying to gauge this statement above. I’d love to try out some SPY27, but I’d like for it to be in a Delica. In my mind, one of your iconic models will surely get your proprietary steel. So I thought it’s just a matter of time. I should wait patiently.

In light of your comment, I’m wondering if I should make myself into a “squeaky wheel” to register customer demand. But also don’t want to be a nuisance. Thoughts?

Hi P_atrick,

I believe it's in the plan to make the entire Endura family in SPY27. And yes, I'm sorry, but patience will be required.

sal

[sal]

Isn't BD1 Gingami by another name?

SPY27 is a fine replacement for VG10 in my opinion.

Hi Doc,

Talkin' Story;

We worked with Carpenter to help them develop their blade steels. When finished, they asked me what they could do for us to thank us for our help. I told them that there was a steel made in Japan by Hitachi, for which there was no US made equivalent. I asked them to tweak it and powder it. I'd hoped for an exclusive on the material, but that was not to be. CTS-BD1N was the result of that request.

I did the same thing with Crucible on VG-10. The result was SPY27.

sal

[p_atrick]

Hi P_atrick,

I believe it's in the plan to make the entire Endura family in SPY27. And yes, I'm sorry, but patience will be required.

sal

This is great news. Can’t wait for them to drop. Thanks for the update.

[holokai]

This is great news. Can’t wait for them to drop. Thanks for the update.

A UKPK in SPY27 might tide you over until the Seki factory gets SPY27.

[Bill1170]

I’ve never tried Spy27, but if it is basically PM VG-10, I am for it. Maybe a Stretch XL? That steel or Magnacut.

[wrdwrght]

I’ve never tried Spy27, but if it is basically PM VG-10, I am for it. Maybe a Stretch XL? That steel or Magnacut.

Me, neither. But I intend to rectify that, based on Eric’s description of SPY27 as better than VG10 in its resistance to corrosion, wear, and fracturing, and almost equally so.

I like VG10 and trust Eric, so all I need to do is wait on the model where it makes sense to me. Maybe a Police LW?

[Doc Dan]

SPY27 is an improvement over VG10 all around. It would not hurt my feelings if this was Spyderco's general steel.

[JD Spydo]

I remember it being said that VG-10 was originally designed to be used for agricultural purposes. All I can say is that I've been very satisfied with most all of my VG-10 Spyders over the years.

Are there other blade steels that I like more than VG-10?? Sure but I still like Vg-10 for serrated blades and for use around harsh environments. VG-10 holds up extremely well in wet and corrosive environments.

Also VG-10 has proven to be really good for specialty type blades like Hawkbills and RESCUE type designs. VG-10 certainly has it's place in Spyderco's main line up of great cutlery.

[horzuff]

Isn't BD1 Gingami by another name?

SPY27 is a fine replacement for VG10 in my opinion.

Hi Doc,

Talkin' Story;

We worked with Carpenter to help them develop their blade steels. When finished, they asked me what they could do for us to thank us for our help. I told them that there was a steel made in Japan by Hitachi, for which there was no US made equivalent. I asked them to tweak it and powder it. I'd hoped for an exclusive on the material, but that was not to be. CTS-BD1N was the result of that request.

I did the same thing with Crucible on VG-10. The result was SPY27.

sal

BD1N was powdered initially? All I can find now is that it's conventional ingot. Are there two versions of the steel?

[Wartstein]

If one happens to prefer Spydercos serrations over a plain edge, in my (admittedly limited) experience VG10 is kind of a "supersteel" when it comes to how well it pairs and works with "teeth".

[sal]

Hi SEF,

Generally speaking if our customers want it, we'll make it.

sal

Mr. Glesser,

Please forgive my highjacking of this thread as it relates to VG-10 (one of my top 3 steel choices of all time). I love Spyderco's response to their customer base. With that said, please, please, please make a Native Lightweight Scout model (that sits between the Native Chief and Native size) oh and if I could go one further, please allow it in a lightweight frn/frcp salt model with Magnacut

Hi Humint,

I'll get right on it.

sal

[vivi]

That's gonna make a lot of folks happy. Been a lot of requests for something between the Chief and Native.

[sal]

Hi Vivi,

We probably should have put something in that slot some time ago. The "Native Shaman" was a 3.5" blade length offering, but it's not the same kind of knife.

When Denver, as well as other areas reduced legal blade length limit from 4.0" to 3,5", we designed a number of knives to fill that slot.

Hey Humint,

I don't think we can use the name "Scout" as other companies are using it and it's disrespectful to infringe, even if it's not protected.

sal