Can the Opening Hole be improved?

Discuss Spyderco's products and history.
Wandering_About
Member
Posts: 1595
Joined: Thu Mar 25, 2021 10:06 am
Location: Earth probably?

Re: Can the Opening Hole be improved?

#41

Post by Wandering_About »

Pad of my thumb.
Because desolate places allow us to breathe. And most people don't even know they're out of breath.

MNOSD member #0035
User avatar
TkoK83Spy
Member
Posts: 13240
Joined: Mon Sep 17, 2018 5:32 pm
Location: Syracuse, NY

Re: Can the Opening Hole be improved?

#42

Post by TkoK83Spy »

Same here, pad. Maybe bit more towards the tip too, but never deep enough for the nail to get into the hole.
-Rick
mikey177
Member
Posts: 3003
Joined: Sat Aug 17, 2019 12:33 am
Location: Philippines

Re: Can the Opening Hole be improved?

#43

Post by mikey177 »

Mill a channel along the inner circumference of the hole, then insert a chamfered ring running on bearings. This will make fidgeters go crazy because of the ultra-smooth opening arc while ensuring people's thumbs don't get roughed up :grin-smiling-eyes
User avatar
mark greenman
Member
Posts: 749
Joined: Sun Apr 27, 2008 2:57 pm

Re: Can the Opening Hole be improved?

#44

Post by mark greenman »

TkoK83Spy wrote:
Tue Aug 20, 2024 9:13 pm
Same here, pad. Maybe bit more towards the tip too, but never deep enough for the nail to get into the hole.
Interesting.

I find the nail position gives more thumb joint compression, giving me more strength/'spring' to flip the blade open at speed. Originating with overcoming the tougher backlocks of the Delica / Endura / Ayoob. My blade opening velocity is pretty comparable to a switchblade with the nail.

For those using the pad, are you thumb rotating the blade open, or thumb flicking the blade open?
Jesla
Member
Posts: 174
Joined: Wed Jul 27, 2022 7:19 pm
Location: Johnson City, TN

Re: Can the Opening Hole be improved?

#45

Post by Jesla »

mikey177 wrote:
Wed Aug 21, 2024 12:30 am
Mill a channel along the inner circumference of the hole, then insert a chamfered ring running on bearings. This will make fidgeters go crazy because of the ultra-smooth opening arc while ensuring people's thumbs don't get roughed up :grin-smiling-eyes
🤣😂😆😳
Whatever turns you on, cupcake.
Still plays with knives…
User avatar
TkoK83Spy
Member
Posts: 13240
Joined: Mon Sep 17, 2018 5:32 pm
Location: Syracuse, NY

Re: Can the Opening Hole be improved?

#46

Post by TkoK83Spy »

mark greenman wrote:
Wed Aug 21, 2024 5:43 am
TkoK83Spy wrote:
Tue Aug 20, 2024 9:13 pm
Same here, pad. Maybe bit more towards the tip too, but never deep enough for the nail to get into the hole.
Interesting.

I find the nail position gives more thumb joint compression, giving me more strength/'spring' to flip the blade open at speed. Originating with overcoming the tougher backlocks of the Delica / Endura / Ayoob. My blade opening velocity is pretty comparable to a switchblade with the nail.

For those using the pad, are you thumb rotating the blade open, or thumb flicking the blade open?
Correct, I typically give knives a slow roll to open them. It's less obnoxious than flicking, and I enjoy the feeling and sound of the lockup with a slow roll. Particularly with a back lock :drooling
-Rick
User avatar
ChrisinHove
Member
Posts: 4290
Joined: Tue Dec 17, 2013 7:12 am
Location: 27.2046° N, 77.4977° E

Re: Can the Opening Hole be improved?

#47

Post by ChrisinHove »

I think a replaceable hole would be an improvement, and allow aftermarket versions.
User avatar
The Mastiff
Member
Posts: 6044
Joined: Sun Jun 04, 2006 2:53 am
Location: raleigh nc

Re: Can the Opening Hole be improved?

#48

Post by The Mastiff »

I like the opening hole as is and don't want any changes.
User avatar
ilikesharpstuff
Member
Posts: 9
Joined: Tue May 07, 2024 8:43 am

Re: Can the Opening Hole be improved?

#49

Post by ilikesharpstuff »

TkoK83Spy wrote:
Tue Aug 20, 2024 11:43 am
Synov wrote:
Tue Aug 20, 2024 11:32 am
Tristan_david2001 wrote:
Tue Aug 20, 2024 6:42 am
I can’t see how the tictac opening hole works better than the perfect circle opening hole. Definitely not as functional. but for fidgety pocket jewelry knives ig it doesn’t matter.
More area to catch your finger. You can't fail a reverse flick with that design.
It ain't all about flicking...
But if the argument is that it's not as functional, it's simply not true. You can do anything/everything with a tictac hole that you can with a round hole, and some things better. Everyone likes different things and that's fine. Doesn't have to be that they're wrong and you're right in every instance of disagreement.
Wandering_About
Member
Posts: 1595
Joined: Thu Mar 25, 2021 10:06 am
Location: Earth probably?

Re: Can the Opening Hole be improved?

#50

Post by Wandering_About »

mark greenman wrote:
Wed Aug 21, 2024 5:43 am


Interesting.

I find the nail position gives more thumb joint compression, giving me more strength/'spring' to flip the blade open at speed. Originating with overcoming the tougher backlocks of the Delica / Endura / Ayoob. My blade opening velocity is pretty comparable to a switchblade with the nail.

For those using the pad, are you thumb rotating the blade open, or thumb flicking the blade open?
I don't flick blades open. "Slow" roll is where it's at for me.
Because desolate places allow us to breathe. And most people don't even know they're out of breath.

MNOSD member #0035
JayHenMac
Member
Posts: 137
Joined: Thu Nov 09, 2023 12:48 pm
Location: Dallas, GA

Re: Can the Opening Hole be improved?

#51

Post by JayHenMac »

I sometimes pinch the hole between my thumb and index finger. Then use a quick wrist flick to open the knife. If the hole was milled to the same size as the bearing from one of my son's fidget spinners... the speed of opening could reverse time.
User avatar
SpyderEdgeForever
Member
Posts: 7816
Joined: Mon Jul 23, 2012 6:53 pm
Location: USA

Re: Can the Opening Hole be improved?

#52

Post by SpyderEdgeForever »

zhyla wrote:
Mon Aug 19, 2024 10:01 pm
SpyderEdgeForever wrote:
Mon Aug 19, 2024 9:44 pm
Someone suggested Spyderco mill the inner hole to give it better grip rather than make it smooth.
Who suggested this? Maybe they can explain why.
A fellow knife user who commented to me about Spyderco designs. They think under wet or difficult conditions the finger could slip while using the opening hole as it is made.
User avatar
Danke
Member
Posts: 990
Joined: Tue Jul 21, 2015 10:05 pm

Re: Can the Opening Hole be improved?

#53

Post by Danke »

ChrisinHove wrote:
Wed Aug 21, 2024 6:59 am
I think a replaceable hole would be an improvement, and allow aftermarket versions.
I'm on your schedule
James Y
Member
Posts: 9879
Joined: Fri Sep 24, 2004 10:33 am
Location: Southern CA

Re: Can the Opening Hole be improved?

#54

Post by James Y »

I use the pad of my thumb. If I wanted to flick it open with my index finger, then it's more with the back of my index finger nail.

But I don't flick my knives anymore, haven't in a long time. I do not condemn anyone else who likes flicking their knives. I simply don’t feel the desire or need to do it myself. I also feel that it accelerates wear and tear and loosens tolerances over time. I'm sure some will argue that point, but I stand firm in my belief.

Jim
Last edited by James Y on Wed Aug 21, 2024 10:33 am, edited 1 time in total.
User avatar
SpyderEdgeForever
Member
Posts: 7816
Joined: Mon Jul 23, 2012 6:53 pm
Location: USA

Re: Can the Opening Hole be improved?

#55

Post by SpyderEdgeForever »

The Mastiff wrote:
Wed Aug 21, 2024 7:08 am
I like the opening hole as is and don't want any changes.
I love the Opening Hole and agree with you.
If I can I like to remove thumb studs from my folders so I can have a mini hole in it's place that reminds me of Spyderco.
JayHenMac
Member
Posts: 137
Joined: Thu Nov 09, 2023 12:48 pm
Location: Dallas, GA

Re: Can the Opening Hole be improved?

#56

Post by JayHenMac »

SpyderEdgeForever wrote:
Wed Aug 21, 2024 10:15 am
zhyla wrote:
Mon Aug 19, 2024 10:01 pm
SpyderEdgeForever wrote:
Mon Aug 19, 2024 9:44 pm
Someone suggested Spyderco mill the inner hole to give it better grip rather than make it smooth.
Who suggested this? Maybe they can explain why.
A fellow knife user who commented to me about Spyderco designs. They think under wet or difficult conditions the finger could slip while using the opening hole as it is made.
Theres a thread around here with a user who is a commercial diver. He carries an Atlantic Salt, and another one as a backup. He uses them in some of the wettest, most corrosive environments imaginable. I would assume that if anyone had problems using the hole in wet or difficult conditions, it would be that guy.
User avatar
SpyderEdgeForever
Member
Posts: 7816
Joined: Mon Jul 23, 2012 6:53 pm
Location: USA

Re: Can the Opening Hole be improved?

#57

Post by SpyderEdgeForever »

JayHenMac wrote:
Wed Aug 21, 2024 1:02 pm
SpyderEdgeForever wrote:
Wed Aug 21, 2024 10:15 am
zhyla wrote:
Mon Aug 19, 2024 10:01 pm
SpyderEdgeForever wrote:
Mon Aug 19, 2024 9:44 pm
Someone suggested Spyderco mill the inner hole to give it better grip rather than make it smooth.
Who suggested this? Maybe they can explain why.
A fellow knife user who commented to me about Spyderco designs. They think under wet or difficult conditions the finger could slip while using the opening hole as it is made.
Theres a thread around here with a user who is a commercial diver. He carries an Atlantic Salt, and another one as a backup. He uses them in some of the wettest, most corrosive environments imaginable. I would assume that if anyone had problems using the hole in wet or difficult conditions, it would be that guy.
Thank you for bringing this to my attention. Noted and acknowledged. I will also add that I have personally never had any difficulty operating our beloved Opening Holes.
Karl_H
Member
Posts: 165
Joined: Tue May 05, 2020 2:34 pm

Re: Can the Opening Hole be improved?

#58

Post by Karl_H »

mikey177 wrote:
Wed Aug 21, 2024 12:30 am
Mill a channel along the inner circumference of the hole, then insert a chamfered ring running on bearings. This will make fidgeters go crazy because of the ultra-smooth opening arc while ensuring people's thumbs don't get roughed up :grin-smiling-eyes
IMO, this is really the best idea.

My issue with the Spyderco opening hole isn’t related to opening the knife. My issue with opening holes is the hump that that is often made to accommodate it. My general feeling is that if the knife needs to have a huge hump to allow for a sufficiently large opening hole, then an opening hole should not be used.
JFR1
Member
Posts: 93
Joined: Sun Jul 07, 2024 9:51 am
Location: Ontario, Canada

Re: Can the Opening Hole be improved?

#59

Post by JFR1 »

Karl_H wrote:
Wed Aug 21, 2024 3:08 pm
My issue with the Spyderco opening hole isn’t related to opening the knife. My issue with opening holes is the hump that that is often made to accommodate it. My general feeling is that if the knife needs to have a huge hump to allow for a sufficiently large opening hole, then an opening hole should not be used.
That's a fair perspective. I felt that way about the Para 3 when I tried one out.
- Joel
zhyla
Member
Posts: 2700
Joined: Tue Apr 20, 2010 2:12 pm

Re: Can the Opening Hole be improved?

#60

Post by zhyla »

SpyderEdgeForever wrote:
Wed Aug 21, 2024 10:15 am
zhyla wrote:
Mon Aug 19, 2024 10:01 pm
SpyderEdgeForever wrote:
Mon Aug 19, 2024 9:44 pm
Someone suggested Spyderco mill the inner hole to give it better grip rather than make it smooth.
Who suggested this? Maybe they can explain why.
A fellow knife user who commented to me about Spyderco designs. They think under wet or difficult conditions the finger could slip while using the opening hole as it is made.
Your “friend” completely misunderstands how the thumbhole opening works and how force is applied. I recommend you not listen to this “friend” anymore.
Post Reply