Afterall, is the hp Delica just a phantasma ?
Afterall, is the hp Delica just a phantasma ?
Now you see it, now you don't. Joke aside, I started to believe this project is never going to happen. Did anyone spoted something resembling a hp Delica at Blade Show ? Throw us a little bone ....
Marius
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" A mind all logic is like a knife all blade. It makes the hand bleed that uses it "
( Rabindranath Tagore )
Proud member of the old school spyderedge nation
Re: Afterall, is the hp Delica just a phantasma ?
Get the k390 version and have it ground (or take it to some extra coarse diamond stones or plates) thinner BTE with a touch of convex to it. You will get a pretty good performance with little extra effort ...
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Re: Afterall, is the hp Delica just a phantasma ?
I hope it still comes to market one day.
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Same. I’m staying optimistic that it will.
Even though the idea is to highlight the performance of blade geometry, I still wonder how VG10 is going to be received.
Re: Afterall, is the hp Delica just a phantasma ?
Although this is a good suggestion for someone looking for performance in current models, it is not much helpful in relation to the question raised by Elena86.
If I recall this correctly, it was supposed to be high hollow grind with current blade thickness but much more thinner behind the edge.
To the original post, I am excited as well I just think it will take some time and we need to be patient. Just recalling how long it took to Sal to get Leafshaped Manbug (his own project mind you) in production and how much effort it takes, I don`t see this happening soon. Just take it as one of many Sal`s wonderful projects and give him time, he is just a man, living legend or not, he needs to have space for all the great things and ideas he is working on... we will be rewarded some day in future for sure.
Re: Afterall, is the hp Delica just a phantasma ?
I know, it was a bit of tongue in cheek from me. I am aware that Spyderco wants to make a hollow grind there and I suppose that on a blade that thin it is quite a challenge. I hope they will bring it - Spyderco does not have many hollow grinds left outside the Aqua family and I think they add an interesting dimension and we knife nerds love that :)
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Re: Afterall, is the hp Delica just a phantasma ?
Re reading my post, might have come more harsh than intended - sorry about that. I hope Spyderco will bring this one in as well. If the blade would be a bit longer than on current Delica, I would not be mad at them at allMatus wrote: ↑Mon Jun 17, 2024 9:42 amI know, it was a bit of tongue in cheek from me. I am aware that Spyderco wants to make a hollow grind there and I suppose that on a blade that thin it is quite a challenge. I hope they will bring it - Spyderco does not have many hollow grinds left outside the Aqua family and I think they add an interesting dimension and we knife nerds love that :)
Big love for potentially more slicey version.
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Re: Afterall, is the hp Delica just a phantasma ?
I think my interest has cooled off somewhat.
The concept still intrigues me, but with the number of knives I own or want to own increasing faster than I could ever hope to slim down my herd, I spot a possible issue developing long term.
I'm just not sure I have a realistic use case for it. Sure, there are probably bunch of stuff I could use it for, but it's still a Delica i VG-10 so it will fight for pocket time with some pretty stiff competition that is purposefully acquired for the very tasks I use them for. And I also want to save some space in my sock drawer(s) so I'm able to explore new designs/different designs.
So at this point my anticipation has shifted more toward new models where edge geometry / cutting performance seems to be a driving force, e.g. Charisma and the long awaited BBB folder.
Ofc. I reserve the right to change my mind when the forum is drowned in overwhelming user reviews of the HHG Delica, but it's no longer an upfront "take my money" commitment.
The concept still intrigues me, but with the number of knives I own or want to own increasing faster than I could ever hope to slim down my herd, I spot a possible issue developing long term.
I'm just not sure I have a realistic use case for it. Sure, there are probably bunch of stuff I could use it for, but it's still a Delica i VG-10 so it will fight for pocket time with some pretty stiff competition that is purposefully acquired for the very tasks I use them for. And I also want to save some space in my sock drawer(s) so I'm able to explore new designs/different designs.
So at this point my anticipation has shifted more toward new models where edge geometry / cutting performance seems to be a driving force, e.g. Charisma and the long awaited BBB folder.
Ofc. I reserve the right to change my mind when the forum is drowned in overwhelming user reviews of the HHG Delica, but it's no longer an upfront "take my money" commitment.
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Re: Afterall, is the hp Delica just a phantasma ?
I'm with you, though I suspect we are still in a minority.PaloArt wrote: ↑Mon Jun 17, 2024 11:52 amIf the blade would be a bit longer than on current Delica, I would not be mad at them at all. Always, when I pick up my Gen 2 Delica and I see how perfectly the blade length is used to it`s fullest compared to the handle I am thinking what led to a bit disproportionate handle to blade ratio on latest iteration. Gen2 is pinnacle of Delica from the design perspective for me. I think I will be in a minority here though about that one
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I only own current gen. Seki's, so I don't know how previous gens came, but most models in the current gen could easily fit a longer blade. And me too would not be mad if they did
Re: Afterall, is the hp Delica just a phantasma ?
I specifically asked about it at Blade and the gentleman I talked to said it wasn’t in the prototype case but was still in the works as far as he knew. I don’t often carry a Delica anymore but that was the gateway drug that got me into Spyderco 20 years ago and I’m intrigued.
Re: Afterall, is the hp Delica just a phantasma ?
There was absolutely nothing wrong with your answer - if anything my post was a gentle provocation
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Re: Afterall, is the hp Delica just a phantasma ?
My interest in the project died when it was announced it would be VG-10. Not to say it’s a bad steel, just not enough to keep me interested.
In other low-geometry news:
The Charisma has me interested but I have my doubts about how long it will last before it breaks if you need to use it for anything more demanding than peeling an apple.
BBB folder? …There is no news.
All I can really add is that the Chaparral exists, please give it more steels.
In other low-geometry news:
The Charisma has me interested but I have my doubts about how long it will last before it breaks if you need to use it for anything more demanding than peeling an apple.
BBB folder? …There is no news.
All I can really add is that the Chaparral exists, please give it more steels.
Re: Afterall, is the hp Delica just a phantasma ?
PaloArt wrote: ↑Mon Jun 17, 2024 11:52 am.... If the blade would be a bit longer than on current Delica, I would not be mad at them at all. Always, when I pick up my Gen 2 Delica and I see how perfectly the blade length is used to it`s fullest compared to the handle I am thinking what led to a bit disproportionate handle to blade ratio on latest iteration. .....
Well, I am the first one who would love to see the Delica getting a longer, fully handle filling blade!
And I do notice the 2 mm more of cutting edge the Salt 2 offers over the Delica 4.
That said: I think I can recall that the reason for the rather short Delica blade is, that this very popular model should remain a legal carry also in places with a 3" blade length limit. And while the Salt 2 blade (according to the Spyderco site) comes in at exactly 3", the Delica stays safely below that with 2.9"...
And if I can´t have that longer blade in the Delica, I still prefer it to have that rather long handle (that COULD house a longer blade of course) and the good four finger grip it offers.
Top three going by pocket-time (update October 25):
- EDC: Endela SE (K390). Endela SE (VG10), Manix 2 LW (REX45)
- Mountains/outdoors: Pac.Salt 2 SE (LC200N), Salt 2 SE (LC200N), Pac.Salt 1 SE (H1)
- EDC: Endela SE (K390). Endela SE (VG10), Manix 2 LW (REX45)
- Mountains/outdoors: Pac.Salt 2 SE (LC200N), Salt 2 SE (LC200N), Pac.Salt 1 SE (H1)
Re: Afterall, is the hp Delica just a phantasma ?
For a reference quick comparison. Love both of them but Gen 2 is more balanced model for me. I do get the idea of having longer handle, it just feels sometimes a bit disbalanced. Still great knife, it works, it cuts, backlock is safe... Still, starting to prefer Native 5 lately.aicolainen wrote: ↑Mon Jun 17, 2024 12:16 pm
I'm with you, though I suspect we are still in a minority.
I only own current gen. Seki's, so I don't know how previous gens came, but most models in the current gen could easily fit a longer blade. And me too would not be mad if they did![]()


I am happy I am not alone on this
Photos are not the best, my phone is older and it`s camera is struggling lately.
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Re: Afterall, is the hp Delica just a phantasma ?
That is indeed more balanced!PaloArt wrote: ↑Fri Jun 21, 2024 12:07 amFor a reference quick comparison. Love both of them but Gen 2 is more balanced model for me. I do get the idea of having longer handle, it just feels sometimes a bit disbalanced. Still great knife, it works, it cuts, backlock is safe... Still, starting to prefer Native 5 lately.aicolainen wrote: ↑Mon Jun 17, 2024 12:16 pm
I'm with you, though I suspect we are still in a minority.
I only own current gen. Seki's, so I don't know how previous gens came, but most models in the current gen could easily fit a longer blade. And me too would not be mad if they did![]()
I am happy I am not alone on this![]()
Photos are not the best, my phone is older and it`s camera is struggling lately.
Thank you for sharing. Now I want a gen. 2 Delica as well... it never ends
