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Naperville wrote:
Thu May 30, 2024 10:16 am
MacLaren wrote:
Wed May 29, 2024 10:55 pm
Naperville wrote:
Wed May 29, 2024 2:18 pm
MacLaren wrote:
Wed May 29, 2024 12:35 pm
I think the first to be replaced should be cable TV man... I think then it would be possible to get someone to come out....and fix those black bars on channels 4 and 6
Hehehehe......
We must have $3k to $5k in weed trees we are trying to get removed from the property and we may have to wait for a robot to do the work!

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Hehehe.....I heard that! 😃
I hired a guy today. He is going to clear out the trees and bushes we need removed. They started small but they have become impossible, and I used to take care of them with my brother, but he's nowhere to be found. Never thought that I would find anyone and I'll keep this guys number!
That's both good news and a relief I'm sure.
I'm glad you found someone to do it.
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MacLaren wrote:
Thu May 30, 2024 1:28 pm
Naperville wrote:
Thu May 30, 2024 10:16 am
MacLaren wrote:
Wed May 29, 2024 10:55 pm
Naperville wrote:
Wed May 29, 2024 2:18 pm


We must have $3k to $5k in weed trees we are trying to get removed from the property and we may have to wait for a robot to do the work!

:smiling-cheeks
Hehehe.....I heard that! 😃
I hired a guy today. He is going to clear out the trees and bushes we need removed. They started small but they have become impossible, and I used to take care of them with my brother, but he's nowhere to be found. Never thought that I would find anyone and I'll keep this guys number!
That's both good news and a relief I'm sure.
I'm glad you found someone to do it.
They remove a large evergreen and 95% of everything growing around the home(anything near the foundation) starting tomorrow at 8AM. I will be on site to watch them do it and make sure that it is all taken care of.

Then we will plant a few trees.

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Sounds like a great plan.
What trees are yall gonna plant?
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MacLaren wrote:
Mon Jun 03, 2024 5:08 pm
Sounds like a great plan.
What trees are yall gonna plant?
Thank you for asking!

I'm from Illinois and have been very lucky to have traveled around most of the US western states 3 times. I was in a rush unfortunately but saw some white or river birch tree stands in the northern region of Arizona that I liked. I'd like to plant a group of these trees on the corner of the property.

I don't want it to look ridiculous, so I will ask a landscaper for their input before we do anything. I'd like to plant ~7 of these trees in a tight group on the corner of the lot if that does not look out of place. They grow around 35 to 40ft tall.

When I was in AZ, I stopped the car and got out and looked at the forest of 100% white birch trees, with the ground covered in varying shades of green lichen on red dirt. Beautiful scenery and the view has stuck with me for decades.
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Why is Google Putting Fake Images on Google Earth?

I posted this in my "Unusual and/or Paranormal Events" thread, but thought it would be appropriate here, too. Just the fact that Google is putting AI images on some Google Earth images is concerning.

The rest isn't really AI-related. As I mentioned when I posted this in the other thread, I believe the whale and dolphin beachings are a result of military (Naval) underwater (perhaps sonar?) testing, and not because of a giant sea monster. Such beachings have been happening periodically for several years, it's nothing new.



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Why is Google Putting Fake Images on Google Earth?

I posted this in my "Unusual and/or Paranormal Events" thread, but thought it would be appropriate here, too. Just the fact that Google is putting AI images on some Google Earth images is concerning.

The rest isn't really AI-related. As I mentioned when I posted this in the other thread, I believe the whale and dolphin beachings are a result of military (Naval) underwater (perhaps sonar?) testing, and not because of a giant sea monster. Such beachings have been happening periodically for several years, it's nothing new.



Jim

Thanks James!

There may be a dozen reasons why they added that image, one being it revealed something they wanted hidden, and another may be that people of that region believe in sea monsters and they are trying to psyche them out.

I think it is a mistake to modify or diminish the value to existing documents and software like Google Earth with AI. Wikipedia has already been trashed by partisanship.

AI is in it's infancy. People, corporations or governments meddling with information is bad.

Buy books that are 10 to 20 years old before political correctness came on the scene or be prepared to read whatever the powers that be have decided to feed you.
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I think it’s about covering something up, and getting people accustomed to seeing random, clearly faked AI images on Google Earth, so that if something real does happen to get through, people will think it’s just another AI image. That image is clearly from a Godzilla movie (Godzilla Minus One?), so no one should be fooled into believing that it’s real. IMO, it’s to confuse people into believing that anything truly unusual or top-secret that is revealed can be easily debunked, and most people will believe them; because if some things are clearly fake, then “everything” can be faked.

I’m not being a conspiracy theorist, just considering and coming to conclusions about the reasons they’re doing this. It’s certainly not for entertainment purposes.

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I for one always believed OpenAI broke AES192 encryption and gave it to NSA Colorado. I was amused by the way the story vanished from the media. Six months into the new year we have this: NSA Director joins OpenAI board.



Paul Nakasone was already leading the Army branch of U.S. Cyber Command when then-President Donald Trump in 2018 picked him to be director of the NSA, one of the nation's top intelligence posts, and head of U.S. Cyber Command. He maintained the dual roles when President Joe Biden took office in 2021. He retired in February. (Associated Press)


You should read through the comments on YouTube too.
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Some of the far thinking AI researchers' dream is that humanity can create AI minds that are essentially a form of manmade angel or genie that can control information and matter to help us, serve us, and be a sort of god like servant and friend.

How would we get all those benefits while avoiding Terminator scenarios and stop bad humans from abusing AI for bad uses?

Example. Imagine a GOOD version of Sky Net that uses nano printers to make anything for you at your request from atoms and sun energy (perhaps cold fusion?).
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SpyderEdgeForever wrote:
Sat Jul 20, 2024 8:24 pm
Some of the far thinking AI researchers' dream is that humanity can create AI minds that are essentially a form of manmade angel or genie that can control information and matter to help us, serve us, and be a sort of god like servant and friend.

How would we get all those benefits while avoiding Terminator scenarios and stop bad humans from abusing AI for bad uses?

Example. Imagine a GOOD version of Sky Net that uses nano printers to make anything for you at your request from atoms and sun energy (perhaps cold fusion?).


Well I will go by the old true saying. ;)

If it is a good thing then humans will screw it up eventually, can't be helped, human nature will take over.
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SpyderEdgeForever wrote:
Sat Jul 20, 2024 8:24 pm
Some of the far thinking AI researchers' dream is that humanity can create AI minds that are essentially a form of manmade angel or genie that can control information and matter to help us, serve us, and be a sort of god like servant and friend.

How would we get all those benefits while avoiding Terminator scenarios and stop bad humans from abusing AI for bad uses?

Example. Imagine a GOOD version of Sky Net that uses nano printers to make anything for you at your request from atoms and sun energy (perhaps cold fusion?).
The power of AI is inceasing quite rapidly. In 10 years it will be very powerful and built into every PC and cellphone. I have not used it yet but ChatGPT released a new model, and is faster, more accurate and much smaller. NVIDIA is releasing faster and more powerful chips, and laid out it's plans publicly just a month after the release of a very powerful chip.

Not sure where we are headed with all of this. We are in for the ride.
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Naperville wrote:
Sat Jul 20, 2024 11:55 pm
SpyderEdgeForever wrote:
Sat Jul 20, 2024 8:24 pm
Some of the far thinking AI researchers' dream is that humanity can create AI minds that are essentially a form of manmade angel or genie that can control information and matter to help us, serve us, and be a sort of god like servant and friend.

How would we get all those benefits while avoiding Terminator scenarios and stop bad humans from abusing AI for bad uses?

Example. Imagine a GOOD version of Sky Net that uses nano printers to make anything for you at your request from atoms and sun energy (perhaps cold fusion?).
The power of AI is inceasing quite rapidly. In 10 years it will be very powerful and built into every PC and cellphone. I have not used it yet but ChatGPT released a new model, and is faster, more accurate and much smaller. NVIDIA is releasing faster and more powerful chips, and laid out it's plans publicly just a month after the release of a very powerful chip.

Not sure where we are headed with all of this. We are in for the ride.


Playing out like the Terminator and Matrix movies really.
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Ankerson wrote:
Sat Jul 20, 2024 11:57 pm
Naperville wrote:
Sat Jul 20, 2024 11:55 pm
SpyderEdgeForever wrote:
Sat Jul 20, 2024 8:24 pm
Some of the far thinking AI researchers' dream is that humanity can create AI minds that are essentially a form of manmade angel or genie that can control information and matter to help us, serve us, and be a sort of god like servant and friend.

How would we get all those benefits while avoiding Terminator scenarios and stop bad humans from abusing AI for bad uses?

Example. Imagine a GOOD version of Sky Net that uses nano printers to make anything for you at your request from atoms and sun energy (perhaps cold fusion?).
The power of AI is inceasing quite rapidly. In 10 years it will be very powerful and built into every PC and cellphone. I have not used it yet but ChatGPT released a new model, and is faster, more accurate and much smaller. NVIDIA is releasing faster and more powerful chips, and laid out it's plans publicly just a month after the release of a very powerful chip.

Not sure where we are headed with all of this. We are in for the ride.


Playing out like the Terminator and Matrix movies really.
I agree. Humans are untrustworthy, creepy, thugs and thieves.

They better be careful what they teach AI so that they don't create a more powerful human.
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Naperville wrote:
Sun Jul 21, 2024 12:01 am
Ankerson wrote:
Sat Jul 20, 2024 11:57 pm
Naperville wrote:
Sat Jul 20, 2024 11:55 pm
SpyderEdgeForever wrote:
Sat Jul 20, 2024 8:24 pm
Some of the far thinking AI researchers' dream is that humanity can create AI minds that are essentially a form of manmade angel or genie that can control information and matter to help us, serve us, and be a sort of god like servant and friend.

How would we get all those benefits while avoiding Terminator scenarios and stop bad humans from abusing AI for bad uses?

Example. Imagine a GOOD version of Sky Net that uses nano printers to make anything for you at your request from atoms and sun energy (perhaps cold fusion?).
The power of AI is inceasing quite rapidly. In 10 years it will be very powerful and built into every PC and cellphone. I have not used it yet but ChatGPT released a new model, and is faster, more accurate and much smaller. NVIDIA is releasing faster and more powerful chips, and laid out it's plans publicly just a month after the release of a very powerful chip.

Not sure where we are headed with all of this. We are in for the ride.


Playing out like the Terminator and Matrix movies really.
I agree. Humans are untrustworthy, creepy, thugs and thieves.

They better be careful what they teach AI so that they don't create a more powerful human.


I heard something years ago that I happen to agree with.

"Humans will most likely smart themselves into extinction."
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Ankerson wrote:
Sun Jul 21, 2024 12:03 am
Naperville wrote:
Sun Jul 21, 2024 12:01 am
Ankerson wrote:
Sat Jul 20, 2024 11:57 pm
Naperville wrote:
Sat Jul 20, 2024 11:55 pm


The power of AI is inceasing quite rapidly. In 10 years it will be very powerful and built into every PC and cellphone. I have not used it yet but ChatGPT released a new model, and is faster, more accurate and much smaller. NVIDIA is releasing faster and more powerful chips, and laid out it's plans publicly just a month after the release of a very powerful chip.

Not sure where we are headed with all of this. We are in for the ride.

Playing out like the Terminator and Matrix movies really.
I agree. Humans are untrustworthy, creepy, thugs and thieves.

They better be careful what they teach AI so that they don't create a more powerful human.

I heard something years ago that I happen to agree with.

"Humans will most likely smart themselves into extinction."
Again I agree.

I did not read a lot before the age of 26 but what I did read was a lot of science fiction and essays in Britannica. I never thought I would live to see 1984, so I refused to read the book when I was in high school. The draft and Vietnam were still things to contend with and I thought that I would die in a jungle somewhere.

NOW, science fiction is coming to life. They have the intellect to make some of these things a reality. I see two possibilities:

- the end of the human race and a modified human is created in my lifetime...say 25 more years
- the end of the human race as AI takes control and starts WW III

These fools still have umpteen thousand nukes and are messing with Russia. I am not a fan of Russia, but as far as nukes go they have to be respected and I do not see that respect being given. I say, don't poke the bear. This week I bought 5+ books on Nagasaki and Hiroshima, and I think I'll order 5 more at least. I think we may have a disaster.

NOW THROW COMPETING AI SYSTEMS INTO THE EQUATION
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Naperville wrote:
Sun Jul 21, 2024 12:18 am
Ankerson wrote:
Sun Jul 21, 2024 12:03 am
Naperville wrote:
Sun Jul 21, 2024 12:01 am
Ankerson wrote:
Sat Jul 20, 2024 11:57 pm



Playing out like the Terminator and Matrix movies really.
I agree. Humans are untrustworthy, creepy, thugs and thieves.

They better be careful what they teach AI so that they don't create a more powerful human.

I heard something years ago that I happen to agree with.

"Humans will most likely smart themselves into extinction."
Again I agree.

I did not read a lot before the age of 26 but what I did read was a lot of science fiction and essays in Britannica. I never thought I would live to see 1984, so I refused to read the book when I was in high school. The draft and Vietnam were still things to contend with and I thought that I would die in a jungle somewhere.

NOW, science fiction is coming to life. They have the intellect to make some of these things a reality. I see two possibilities:

- the end of the human race and a modified human is created in my lifetime...say 25 more years
- the end of the human race as AI takes control and starts WW III

These fools still have umpteen thousand nukes and are messing with Russia. I am not a fan of Russia, but as far as nukes go they have to be respected and I do not see that respect being given. I say, don't poke the bear. This week I bought 5+ books on Nagasaki and Hiroshima, and I think I'll order 5 more at least. I think we may have a disaster.

NOW THROW COMPETING AI SYSTEMS INTO THE EQUATION


Yeah well, I have been saying don't poke the bear for awhile too. ;)

Nobody knows what Russa will do if they feel like they are cornered. :flushed

Well if the worst case for humans happens the planet will both recover and be much better off without humans.
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From what I've been hearing for years, all of the 'latest' technology that we see now, had already been developed 50 years or so ago, but hadn't been revealed to the public. And that what's being exposed to us now is 50 years behind what already exists.

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James Y wrote:
Sun Jul 21, 2024 8:39 am
From what I've been hearing for years, all of the 'latest' technology that we see now, had already been developed 50 years or so ago, but hadn't been revealed to the public. And that what's being exposed to us now is 50 years behind what already exists.

Jim
What about companies that are relatively new within the last couple decades that have and are developing new technology? Are they not actually developing it? What about the updates and improvements made to those technologies? They're not actually improving those technologies, because they've already been improved 50 years ago? However, since these companies didn't exist 50 years ago, they were given the technology? If so, by who?...aliens? time travelers? ghosts? spirits? skynet? a shadowy cabal of global...benefactors?
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kerrcobra wrote:
Sun Jul 21, 2024 11:17 am
James Y wrote:
Sun Jul 21, 2024 8:39 am
From what I've been hearing for years, all of the 'latest' technology that we see now, had already been developed 50 years or so ago, but hadn't been revealed to the public. And that what's being exposed to us now is 50 years behind what already exists.

Jim
What about companies that are relatively new within the last couple decades that have and are developing new technology? Are they not actually developing it? What about the updates and improvements made to those technologies? They're not actually improving those technologies, because they've already been improved 50 years ago? However, since these companies didn't exist 50 years ago, they were given the technology? If so, by who?...aliens? time travelers? ghosts? spirits? skynet? a shadowy cabal of global...benefactors?

Good question. That I don't know. I have heard that the military, and/or other agencies have had such technology for decades. I don't know if 50 years is a hard number for how many years or not. It's what I've heard since the early 2000s or so. Of course, I do believe in the constant innovation and evolution of technology. So maybe what the people who say that are meaning is that the technology for whatever has existed for decades, even if not in the exact form we see it in now.

For one example, I heard that laser disc technology dates back to at least the 1950s, which was at least 20 years before they started becoming known about in 1978.

It's also possible that in many cases, technology that is very similar to already-existing, but unknown technology, is 'rediscovered' independently.

Who knows what all was in Nikola Tesla's papers that were seized by the US government after his death in 1943? And what could have possibly been in development since then, based on what they found?

I don't know, I'm no expert on this stuff. The only thing I am 100% certain of is that 'the few' are always going to hold back and keep the best and most advanced technologies secret from 'the many', in a way that suits themselves. The few will always skew anything they can to give themselves all the advantages. It is not done out of the 'kindness' of their hearts. This is not paranoia, it is human nature.

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James Y wrote:
Sun Jul 21, 2024 12:21 pm
kerrcobra wrote:
Sun Jul 21, 2024 11:17 am
James Y wrote:
Sun Jul 21, 2024 8:39 am
From what I've been hearing for years, all of the 'latest' technology that we see now, had already been developed 50 years or so ago, but hadn't been revealed to the public. And that what's being exposed to us now is 50 years behind what already exists.

Jim
What about companies that are relatively new within the last couple decades that have and are developing new technology? Are they not actually developing it? What about the updates and improvements made to those technologies? They're not actually improving those technologies, because they've already been improved 50 years ago? However, since these companies didn't exist 50 years ago, they were given the technology? If so, by who?...aliens? time travelers? ghosts? spirits? skynet? a shadowy cabal of global...benefactors?

Good question. That I don't know. I have heard that the military, and/or other agencies have had such technology for decades. I don't know if 50 years is a hard number for how many years or not. It's what I've heard since the early 2000s or so. Of course, I do believe in the constant innovation and evolution of technology. So maybe what the people who say that are meaning is that the technology for whatever has existed for decades, even if not in the exact form we see it in now.

For one example, I heard that laser disc technology dates back to at least the 1950s, which was at least 20 years before they started becoming known about in 1978.

It's also possible that in many cases, technology that is very similar to already-existing, but unknown technology, is 'rediscovered' independently.

Who knows what all was in Nikola Tesla's papers that were seized by the US government after his death in 1943? And what could have possibly been in development since then, based on what they found?

I don't know, I'm no expert on this stuff. The only thing I am 100% certain of is that 'the few' are always going to hold back and keep the best and most advanced technologies secret from 'the many', in a way that suits themselves. The few will always skew anything they can to give themselves all the advantages. It is not done out of the 'kindness' of their hearts. This is not paranoia, it is human nature.

Jim


Jim,


Well normally (Usually) with any sort of new technology the Government (Military etc) gets it 1st because that's the way things work.

Not sure about the 50 year thing, seems pretty extreme. ;)

But as an example the military was using cell phone technology (it was developed for the military) about 15 to 20 years before civilians ever heard of it.

However like anything else.

The right people have to get even more disgustingly rich or it just will not happen period.


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