Why is the Kapara so overlooked ?
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I think the Kapara’s main problem is that it screams “niche”, even while being so much more.
Its radiused and (too?) smooth handle, and its slicy blade do strongly suggest it is perfect for the cube farm and its lunch room.
Spyderco has given us lots of nichey knives, but most folks, here at least, want Spydies in the working-man’s Endura and Military families and don’t want to waste money on knives that would SEEM NOT to do it all.
It’s not for nothing that the PM2 is in such demand. IMO, the PM2 is Spyderco’s least nichey knife, which does not mean to me that my Kapara is any less spectacular.
Its radiused and (too?) smooth handle, and its slicy blade do strongly suggest it is perfect for the cube farm and its lunch room.
Spyderco has given us lots of nichey knives, but most folks, here at least, want Spydies in the working-man’s Endura and Military families and don’t want to waste money on knives that would SEEM NOT to do it all.
It’s not for nothing that the PM2 is in such demand. IMO, the PM2 is Spyderco’s least nichey knife, which does not mean to me that my Kapara is any less spectacular.
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Great insight in this post.wrdwrght wrote: ↑Fri Mar 03, 2023 11:50 amI think the Kapara’s main problem is that it screams “niche”, even while being so much more.
Its radiused and (too?) smooth handle, and its slicy blade do strongly suggest it is perfect for the cube farm and its lunch room.
Spyderco has given us lots of nichey knives, but most folks, here at least, want Spydies in the working-man’s Endura and Military families and don’t want to waste money on knives that would SEEM NOT to do it all.
It’s not for nothing that the PM2 is in such demand. IMO, the PM2 is Spyderco’s least nichey knife, which does not mean to me that my Kapara is any less spectacular.
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I didn’t buy the Kapara due to the comp lock as I’m spoiled by the left hand pm2 and no longer own any other standard comp locks except the Sliverax. Have my fingers crossed for the slip joint version, but not sure the demand is there for it.
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I think some of it is about availability. The knife market can be very trendy so when things are hot, they’re hot and when they’re not they’re not. Also, when a model is hot it has to stay relevant and remain in the public conversation to stay hot. When the Kapara came out everyone was raving about it and it sold out quickly if I remember? Then it was unavailable for a long time. People still talked about it but slowly other newer and more accessible models stole the spotlight. Once the Kapara was finally available again, many of the folks who had been hot on it a year before had mentally moved on to the next thing, and the next.
I imagine that if the Kapara had never been out of stock and had been introduced in a myriad of sprints and exclusives then it would have stayed higher on the relevancy list for MUCH longer. Maybe not as popular as the Para3 (for example) but more so than it did. I have no doubt that Spyderco understands all of that (far better than I do) but the problem is that a company has to decide where to apply its limited resources. So when Covid hits and your production capacity gets cut in half (or worse) you have to think, “am i going to make model x which I KNOW will sell or model y which I THINK will sell. As the old adage says, “you’ve gotta make hay while the sun is shining” but there’s a lot of hay and only so much sunshine so you’ve gotta cut the best fields.
Anyway, that’s a pure opinion rant. I might be wrong on all of that but that’s the way it looks to me from the outside.
I imagine that if the Kapara had never been out of stock and had been introduced in a myriad of sprints and exclusives then it would have stayed higher on the relevancy list for MUCH longer. Maybe not as popular as the Para3 (for example) but more so than it did. I have no doubt that Spyderco understands all of that (far better than I do) but the problem is that a company has to decide where to apply its limited resources. So when Covid hits and your production capacity gets cut in half (or worse) you have to think, “am i going to make model x which I KNOW will sell or model y which I THINK will sell. As the old adage says, “you’ve gotta make hay while the sun is shining” but there’s a lot of hay and only so much sunshine so you’ve gotta cut the best fields.
Anyway, that’s a pure opinion rant. I might be wrong on all of that but that’s the way it looks to me from the outside.
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Double tap.
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This is exactly why I sold mine, as nice as it is I found that it was getting carried less and less.
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I think Lance captured it nicely. I was enthralled with it when it came out. It was out of stock pretty quick. I debated the price with myself. Also debated if the size would work for me. Then they were gone. Other bright shiny knife objects distracted me (or more correctly steels). I think sometimes this is the downside of all the great steel choices: many of us will choose a familiar tried and true design we know works for us in different steels before trying a new model that *might* work for us in a steel that not as exciting. JMHOSurfingringo wrote: ↑Sat Mar 04, 2023 6:26 amI think some of it is about availability. The knife market can be very trendy so when things are hot, they’re hot and when they’re not they’re not. Also, when a model is hot it has to stay relevant and remain in the public conversation to stay hot. When the Kapara came out everyone was raving about it and it sold out quickly if I remember? Then it was unavailable for a long time. People still talked about it but slowly other newer and more accessible models stole the spotlight. Once the Kapara was finally available again, many of the folks who had been hot on it a year before had mentally moved on to the next thing, and the next.
I imagine that if the Kapara had never been out of stock and had been introduced in a myriad of sprints and exclusives then it would have stayed higher on the relevancy list for MUCH longer. Maybe not as popular as the Para3 (for example) but more so than it did. I have no doubt that Spyderco understands all of that (far better than I do) but the problem is that a company has to decide where to apply its limited resources. So when Covid hits and your production capacity gets cut in half (or worse) you have to think, “am i going to make model x which I KNOW will sell or model y which I THINK will sell. As the old adage says, “you’ve gotta make hay while the sun is shining” but there’s a lot of hay and only so much sunshine so you’ve gotta cut the best fields.
Anyway, that’s a pure opinion rant. I might be wrong on all of that but that’s the way it looks to me from the outside.
Re: Why is the Kapara so overlooked ?
I love some of the "niche" knives and Spyderco does them so well, but outside of knife world for a wide part of the knife carrying community you are probably spot on. Someone that just carries one knife, but wants to spend a little more on themselves will probably opt for a PM2. I have to think that is a large part of the buying community. I know the Kapara is very capable, but when I'm getting my hands dirty, I more often grab a PM2 or an Endura/Endela. Just fits better. Never once grabbed the Kapara for a project. I love taking my Kapara into the office though I know it is capable of much more.wrdwrght wrote: ↑Fri Mar 03, 2023 11:50 amI think the Kapara’s main problem is that it screams “niche”, even while being so much more.
Its radiused and (too?) smooth handle, and its slicy blade do strongly suggest it is perfect for the cube farm and its lunch room.
Spyderco has given us lots of nichey knives, but most folks, here at least, want Spydies in the working-man’s Endura and Military families and don’t want to waste money on knives that would SEEM NOT to do it all.
It’s not for nothing that the PM2 is in such demand. IMO, the PM2 is Spyderco’s least nichey knife, which does not mean to me that my Kapara is any less spectacular.
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Re: Why is the Kapara so overlooked ?
I often ask myself this question, if it was in s90v it would probably be the best edc production knife on the market imo. It’s so, so good.
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Now I’m looking at the Kapara..
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There's way too little space in the compression lock area along with the slick scales makes it slippery when closing especially, and for some reason it's the only Spyderco I can think of that doesn't doesn't have its compression lock tab have ridges on the top of it. I'd re-buy it in a back lock or liner lock version as it has great ergos and one of the longest edge length to handle ratios I can think of other than the Calys/UKPKs
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I own 3 Kaparas, all with different scales, because I love that knife so much. But I am not a "hard worker", I open cardoard boxes and cut food with it and it does both excellently. I just wish there would be another steel option. 20cv/M390 or Magnacut and I would buy a fourth Kapara.
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long time admirer of the kapara, and got one just yesterday. All I can say is that it's a dream in my hand. I have big hands, YMMV, but this thing is fantastic.
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I've looked at this one long and hard, but well, that kind of money for S30V......NO.
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OCD4EDC.com makes compression tab extenders for various models. He calls them CMEs (compression made easy). With the tab extender, even a lefty should have no problem manipulating the compression lock.Manixguy@1994 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 8:31 amI don’t have one but have handled one twice and have the same impressions which are magnified being left handed . Disappointing since Knife feels so nice in hand . MG2mikey177 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 7:21 amI have to concentrate more when unlocking the Kapara because of its skinny and relatively slicker scales. Sometimes I feel like I might accidentally drop it while manipulating the compression lock.
Thus it gets used less compared to the Yojimbo 2 or Amalgam, for example.
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I started a thread about this device once - I think in my first post I linked a vid where one can see how it works:
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Top three going by pocket-time (update March 24):
- EDC: Endura thin red line ffg combo edge (VG10); Wayne Goddard PE (4V), Endela SE (VG10)
-Mountains/outdoors: Pac.Salt 1 SE (H1), Salt 2 SE (LC200N), and also Wayne Goddard PE (4V)
- EDC: Endura thin red line ffg combo edge (VG10); Wayne Goddard PE (4V), Endela SE (VG10)
-Mountains/outdoors: Pac.Salt 1 SE (H1), Salt 2 SE (LC200N), and also Wayne Goddard PE (4V)
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Well, I got mine for clearly less money back when the Kapara was pretty new on the market - but going by todays general prices I think it is worth even the current price, when I consider the perfect execution and really high end CF handle of the knife!
Would I pay the price today again (I don´t have my Kapara anymore)?
No, but not because I think it really is too high, but just cause the comp.lock in combination with the slick, thin handle did not work super well for me (said it before: A linerlock Kapara with grippier scales would be a dream knife for me!!)
Top three going by pocket-time (update March 24):
- EDC: Endura thin red line ffg combo edge (VG10); Wayne Goddard PE (4V), Endela SE (VG10)
-Mountains/outdoors: Pac.Salt 1 SE (H1), Salt 2 SE (LC200N), and also Wayne Goddard PE (4V)
- EDC: Endura thin red line ffg combo edge (VG10); Wayne Goddard PE (4V), Endela SE (VG10)
-Mountains/outdoors: Pac.Salt 1 SE (H1), Salt 2 SE (LC200N), and also Wayne Goddard PE (4V)
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Re: Why is the Kapara so overlooked ?
Yes I bought one and gifted to a friend who is also a lefty for his Kapara . DanOcho wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2024 10:28 pmOCD4EDC.com makes compression tab extenders for various models. He calls them CMEs (compression made easy). With the tab extender, even a lefty should have no problem manipulating the compression lock.Manixguy@1994 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 8:31 amI don’t have one but have handled one twice and have the same impressions which are magnified being left handed . Disappointing since Knife feels so nice in hand . MG2mikey177 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 02, 2023 7:21 amI have to concentrate more when unlocking the Kapara because of its skinny and relatively slicker scales. Sometimes I feel like I might accidentally drop it while manipulating the compression lock.
Thus it gets used less compared to the Yojimbo 2 or Amalgam, for example.
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