AI art knows Spyderco
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I would say that it would be interesting if a prototype was made out of what AI generated (with some human input).
I wonder where they pulled their info from. It's not like they're going to design something from scratch, it must be mostly a copy of something.
I wonder where they pulled their info from. It's not like they're going to design something from scratch, it must be mostly a copy of something.
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Had you not missed what I said in full, I wonder if you would have responded as you did. We happen to agree.zhyla wrote: ↑Tue Mar 12, 2024 8:48 pmJob opportunities? Technology always eliminates jobs. Have you seen a car factory lately?
It may create new job opportunities but on the whole it’s rare to see an increase in low skilled jobs when a technology takes hold. Eventually we will need to pay a lot of people to not work.
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Meanwhile nowadays "self teaching" AI programms turn their output into an increasingly blurry mass:
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Interesting. Gail showed me AI generated photos of President Trump and President Biden being good friends. Sitting together, shaking hands, etc. It sure looked real? Sure makes me suspect AI being honest and truthful..............ever?
These days, manipulation and selected information over the population seems to be the preferred method to control the masses, and AI will, in my opinion, make that easier.
sal
These days, manipulation and selected information over the population seems to be the preferred method to control the masses, and AI will, in my opinion, make that easier.
sal
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Hi Zyla,
Funny, but Gail is too unique for AI to deal with.
sal
Funny, but Gail is too unique for AI to deal with.
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Photocopy of a photocopy type situation.eventhorizon wrote: ↑Sat Mar 16, 2024 3:55 amMeanwhile nowadays "self teaching" AI programms turn their output into an increasingly blurry mass:
https://youtu.be/NcH7fHtqGYM
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And some more cheerful thoughts, insides and outlooks brilliantly put together by our favourite theoretical physicist Sabine:
The future, so bright... if you're really, really rich (if not, not so much)
The future, so bright... if you're really, really rich (if not, not so much)
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Finally read through this thread. Didn't realize we were having a conversation here. May as well toss in my 2 cents on the subject.
One of the many things the company I work for does is being at the forefront of getting 'native AI' running on your smartphones, PC's, cars, etc. It's discussed often.
For a tech guy, I'm very anti tech. I hate that the privacy and anonymity of my youth is a memory. Something the current generation will never know. I feel like I work for the enemy sometimes I did some HTML programming in 1995, before the internet became what it is today. You could see it coming (or at least I could). I used to ask my friends who where excited about being connected to everyone in the world... have you met people? Are you sure you want to be connected to all of them? I don't like more than 10% of the people at this school
My point to that is: even though many people could see the inherent dangers of the tech, there was no stopping it, and there was no real effort to safeguard against the dangers. Nothing has changed in that regard. It is the same with AI. We see the problems coming, yet we do nothing proactively to mitigate them. We are going to make the tools. At my company at least, the things we make that inadvertently eliminate your privacy, are made with the best of intentions to make your life easier. Whether they are used for good or bad, that's someone elses problem. From the A Bomb to AI, this is how mankind operates.
In regards to AI. Want to know what keeps me up at night? It's not art or intellectual property theft. It's Predictive AI.
In the name of anticipating your needs to better serve you, to better target you with relevant advertisements, in the name of stopping things like financial crimes by recognizing patterns of criminals.... Predictive A.I. was born. You can debate how well it works, but it uses patterns to predict behavior. It knows what kind of food you like, when you like to eat it, where you like to shop, your purchase habits, it knows who your friends are, it can guess how you will vote, what political party you belong to. Which of the major personality types you belong to, likely skills, strengths and weaknesses, eduction level, fitness level, sleep habits, medical conditions..... a host of very personal information you wouldn't want a stranger to know
As we speak NASDAQ is using Predictive AI to hunt down financial crimes by tracking purchasing habits. This will expand.
Job screenings are increasingly being done by AI. So much so that they are beginning to offer courses on how to make your resume more AI friendly. This is where predictive AI will take a sinister turn I think. Discrimination.
How hard will it be for an employer, an insurance company, a lender, whomever.... to screen you using predictive AI. And filter out people based on a whole host of reasons. Political affiliation, medical conditions, perceived IQ. You won't even realize it's happening to you. They never asked you a question about who you vote for, you never told them, yet the AI knows (or thinks it knows), and you don't get the job, loan, etc.
One of the many things the company I work for does is being at the forefront of getting 'native AI' running on your smartphones, PC's, cars, etc. It's discussed often.
For a tech guy, I'm very anti tech. I hate that the privacy and anonymity of my youth is a memory. Something the current generation will never know. I feel like I work for the enemy sometimes I did some HTML programming in 1995, before the internet became what it is today. You could see it coming (or at least I could). I used to ask my friends who where excited about being connected to everyone in the world... have you met people? Are you sure you want to be connected to all of them? I don't like more than 10% of the people at this school
My point to that is: even though many people could see the inherent dangers of the tech, there was no stopping it, and there was no real effort to safeguard against the dangers. Nothing has changed in that regard. It is the same with AI. We see the problems coming, yet we do nothing proactively to mitigate them. We are going to make the tools. At my company at least, the things we make that inadvertently eliminate your privacy, are made with the best of intentions to make your life easier. Whether they are used for good or bad, that's someone elses problem. From the A Bomb to AI, this is how mankind operates.
In regards to AI. Want to know what keeps me up at night? It's not art or intellectual property theft. It's Predictive AI.
In the name of anticipating your needs to better serve you, to better target you with relevant advertisements, in the name of stopping things like financial crimes by recognizing patterns of criminals.... Predictive A.I. was born. You can debate how well it works, but it uses patterns to predict behavior. It knows what kind of food you like, when you like to eat it, where you like to shop, your purchase habits, it knows who your friends are, it can guess how you will vote, what political party you belong to. Which of the major personality types you belong to, likely skills, strengths and weaknesses, eduction level, fitness level, sleep habits, medical conditions..... a host of very personal information you wouldn't want a stranger to know
As we speak NASDAQ is using Predictive AI to hunt down financial crimes by tracking purchasing habits. This will expand.
Job screenings are increasingly being done by AI. So much so that they are beginning to offer courses on how to make your resume more AI friendly. This is where predictive AI will take a sinister turn I think. Discrimination.
How hard will it be for an employer, an insurance company, a lender, whomever.... to screen you using predictive AI. And filter out people based on a whole host of reasons. Political affiliation, medical conditions, perceived IQ. You won't even realize it's happening to you. They never asked you a question about who you vote for, you never told them, yet the AI knows (or thinks it knows), and you don't get the job, loan, etc.
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Matt, glad you fleshed-in all the predictive AI I vaguely meant in my reference to “algorithms”. Very scary.
Scarier still is that far too many of us are moths to a flame.
Scarier still is that far too many of us are moths to a flame.
-Marc (pocketing an S30V Military2 today)
“When science changes its opinion, it didn’t lie to you. It learned more.”
“When science changes its opinion, it didn’t lie to you. It learned more.”
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I think privacy was pretty much shredded long ago.
I think predictive A.I.'s main appeal is to sift through all the data that the Gov Agencies and Corporations were drowning in.
Keep in mind that this isn't just an American problem, the same thing is happening in most countries around the world that can afford it.
All the A.I. legislation we approve will not matter to other countries.
I think predictive A.I.'s main appeal is to sift through all the data that the Gov Agencies and Corporations were drowning in.
Keep in mind that this isn't just an American problem, the same thing is happening in most countries around the world that can afford it.
All the A.I. legislation we approve will not matter to other countries.
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The generation that grew up with blade runner and the terminator movies didn't even hesitate a little to make robots and A.I.
I think it's one of the reasons we throw caution to the wind when we make things like bioweapons, new and better bombs, A.I., etc....
The real fear that someone else will do it first and have the advantage. If we restrict our AI development, what if someone else doesn't, and they get ahead..... it pushes humanity into a place of "can we" instead of "should we".
I don't mean to sound all doom and gloom. I have hope for the future. We may thread the needle and survive ourselves yet
Technology, robots, AI, it can all make our lives better. It doesn't have to be dystopian. I hope humanity follows in the vision of Gene Roddenberry, and we become like Star Trek
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"The world of edges has a small doorway in, but opens into a cavern that is both wide and deep." -sal
"Ghost hunters scope the edge." -sal