Doc Dan wrote: ↑Fri Mar 15, 2024 11:31 pmNow someone is getting it.TimButterfield wrote: ↑Fri Mar 15, 2024 1:45 pmIt seems we are discussing removing the choil on the blade + handle and shifting the handle edge/nub forward and the blade edge backwards. If we kept the same handle length, it would give more edge on that blade length and a 3 - 3.5 finger grip on the handle. This would have the sharp edge of the blade just in front of the handle and (hopefully) have a slight nub on the handle to prevent the hand sliding forward. Take a look at the edge of the handle near the blade on both the Bodacious and Lil' Temp 3. I think that is what is proposed, but with the spine of the blade more flush with the handle as on the Lil' Native and Bodacious. I do like the edge being a little closer to the handle as on the Lil' Temp 3 if we're trying to maximize the edge length.
I think everbody here "got it"
I have no dog in the race anyway, since the Lil Native is just not my kind of folder (well, the LW with its thinner blade and lighter weight could come closer to what I prefer).
And I am glad should those who want a choil-less Lil Native get just that!
All I am saying and that is said here is:
Just like the DFly and for my hands also the Chap the choil is mandatory on folders (handles) that small size to offer a good four finger grip. If the Lil Native would go choil-less, yes, this would offer more edge (great...) and offer more space on the handle than now the model has BEHIND the choil.
But as far as I can see still not enough for a good four finger grip.
Exactly in this small size the "invention" of the choil is so ingenous, cause one can get a good grip on a knife that is very short when closed.
The size where a choil makes the most sense imo.
Completely different story with the Native 5:
HERE a choil actually makes the LEAST sense imho.
A choil-less Native 5 would, differently to the Lil Native, definitely offer enough space on the handle for almost all hand sizes AND give us more cutting edge. Win-win in my book. While the current Native 5 unnecessarily forces hands like mine to choke up on the choil that additionally eats up edge length, while the overall actual handle length would be more than long enough for a good four finger grip if it had NO choil. As it is, BEHIND that choil it is too short.
In knives LARGER than a Native 5 a choil can be very nice again: Gives one TWO good four finger grip options: Behind the choil and choked up on it.