I got the pivot hole drilled today, which feels like a big step forward. After some deliberation I decided to just go with a 1/8” hole and forgo a pivot bushing, but I figure I can always enlarge the hole to use one if need be. Hopefully the ceramic is low enough friction that it doesn’t need one, but we will see.
Unfortunately I now have to wait a bit to proceed the way I’d like to. A couple days ago I purchased a used Kizer Drop Bear on Reddit knife swap that comes with extra hardware for the purpose of design study and providing the necessary parts, but it still hasn’t been shipped. I wanted to check out the Drop Bear in particular because Kizer’s version of the cross bar lock has adjustable spring tension which I feel is a nice feature. Hopefully it doesn’t take too long to get here because I’m dying to get to work on this thing!
My Folding Mule Project
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Amateur maker of folding knives and addicted to modding Spyderco knives
Folding Mules- m398 liner lock, Rex76 compression lock, 15v liner lock flipper
Folding Mules- m398 liner lock, Rex76 compression lock, 15v liner lock flipper
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I was going to jump on here to laughingly ask you to make a folder out of the ceramic mule. but here I find you already starting. were you thinking of a ceramic ball detent? Any other material would just wear away
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I’m going with an Axis/crossbar style lock, so no detent ball needed on this one
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Folding Mules- m398 liner lock, Rex76 compression lock, 15v liner lock flipper
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I decided hold off on making my HIC Axis lock Mule, mostly because it seems like a difficult material to learn a new lock with. My thought is to probably make an Axis lock Mule with one of my other Mules first, then fit the HIC blade so it can be swapped in. Also, this whole thing is only about making what I feel like making and right now I want to make something else.
The thing my mind is focused on for some reason is making a lightweight compression lock Mule, so that is what I’m doing. It will be built in a similar fashion to the Para 3 LW, only I am using G10 like the liner less Native 5. The lock bar is going to be .060” titanium and will be held in place by screws from outside the show side and sandwiched between the scale and a backspacer. I’m going to use a shouldered stop pin that can also be screwed in with 2-56 screws, and as with pretty much every folder I do I’ll be doing PB washers and a pivot bushing.
The Mule I’m using as a donor is my other 15v, the first of which became a liner lock flipper. After how nicely the liner lock 15v Mule flips I really started wanting one that flips as well with a comp lock. I figure the worst case scenario is that I adapt the blade into a knife with full Ti liners if my LW idea doesn’t pan out. However I’ve made a liner lock knife with this same style construction and it turned out well.
So far I’ve just laid everything out, cut my G10 scales to shape, and did the lockbar relief in the show scale. I had to do the last little bit of the cut freehand because the template bit has a 3/8” diameter. My pics show the jig that I made to do the relief cut using a top bearing template bit in a trim router. The cut has a slight angle as it gets closer to the blade tang to allow for the bar (plus the detent ball) to move out of the way. This was done by adding a small shim to the template after the initial cut and slightly lowering the bit.
To make the lock bar I am simply using a piece of tape to transfer the shape over to my sheet of titanium. The tape was stuck on the scale and rubbed with a pencil, then stuck to the titanium. I will cut it out close to size on my portaband/table setup and creep up on the fit on my grinder.
Here are some progress pics. Hopefully I can spend some time on it this weekend.
The thing my mind is focused on for some reason is making a lightweight compression lock Mule, so that is what I’m doing. It will be built in a similar fashion to the Para 3 LW, only I am using G10 like the liner less Native 5. The lock bar is going to be .060” titanium and will be held in place by screws from outside the show side and sandwiched between the scale and a backspacer. I’m going to use a shouldered stop pin that can also be screwed in with 2-56 screws, and as with pretty much every folder I do I’ll be doing PB washers and a pivot bushing.
The Mule I’m using as a donor is my other 15v, the first of which became a liner lock flipper. After how nicely the liner lock 15v Mule flips I really started wanting one that flips as well with a comp lock. I figure the worst case scenario is that I adapt the blade into a knife with full Ti liners if my LW idea doesn’t pan out. However I’ve made a liner lock knife with this same style construction and it turned out well.
So far I’ve just laid everything out, cut my G10 scales to shape, and did the lockbar relief in the show scale. I had to do the last little bit of the cut freehand because the template bit has a 3/8” diameter. My pics show the jig that I made to do the relief cut using a top bearing template bit in a trim router. The cut has a slight angle as it gets closer to the blade tang to allow for the bar (plus the detent ball) to move out of the way. This was done by adding a small shim to the template after the initial cut and slightly lowering the bit.
To make the lock bar I am simply using a piece of tape to transfer the shape over to my sheet of titanium. The tape was stuck on the scale and rubbed with a pencil, then stuck to the titanium. I will cut it out close to size on my portaband/table setup and creep up on the fit on my grinder.
Here are some progress pics. Hopefully I can spend some time on it this weekend.
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Folding Mules- m398 liner lock, Rex76 compression lock, 15v liner lock flipper
Folding Mules- m398 liner lock, Rex76 compression lock, 15v liner lock flipper
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Very nice
I'd look at some cheap Chinese CNCs - that's what I have but never use for these purposes. It's about 600$ with upgraded motors and software, but totally worth it if you do this stuff a lot which I don't. I started the same way.
I'd look at some cheap Chinese CNCs - that's what I have but never use for these purposes. It's about 600$ with upgraded motors and software, but totally worth it if you do this stuff a lot which I don't. I started the same way.
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Very clever jig work.
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