eBay condones counterfeit items.

[JRinFL]

I’ve reported several counterfeit sellers over the years with no response, but the last few I have received an email acknowledging the reports. Two of the recent three I reported I have received a follow up stating in part “ We looked into your report and didn’t find the listing to be in violation of our policy. This determination was made by a customer service agent..”. One was an obvious counterfeit Smock and the other an obvious Benchmade Bugout counterfeit. Logos and all and sold as new at close to 1/10 the street price of the real items.

At this point I have to consider EBay to be complicit in the ongoing counterfeiting schemes. I suppose it could be gross incompetence. But, as Ian Fleming famously wrote “Once is happenstance. Twice is coincidence. Three times is enemy action”

Clearly eBay did not learn from the previous lawsuit they lost. I strongly encourage Spyderco to join with other makers and make a joint lawsuit against EBay.

All above is just my opinion, of course.

[JSumm]

Oh wow! I did not realize it was such a large problem. Do a little search and there are a number of companies banning together in their respective industries to go after ebay. Even OtterBox and LifeProof who lead the game in high-end protective phone cases selling at a premium. I think it is apparent that eBay does not care. In fact, they probably know by their sales statistics that this may make up a large portion of their business. That is my guess to why eBay would not fight the counterfeiters too strongly. Lawsuits like this and public awareness of the harm are probably the best way to fight them.

[akapennypincher]

Counterfeit, Clones, and Copies are the nightmare everyone who makes a good product fears. It is world of 2024, and sorry to say hard to stop, Chinese are number one in business of copying products, and make inferior copies. Deal seem too good too be true, pass unless you can see item, as once they get your money, it bis fight time.

[TazKristi]

Thank you for sharing your experience, JRinFL. It would be most helpful, whenever you're able, to share a link directly to the products on eBay. With links, we can take action. Without them, unfortunately, our options are limited.

As always, we appreciate your support!

Kristi

[Manixguy@1994]

Oh wow! I did not realize it was such a large problem. Do a little search and there are a number of companies banning together in their respective industries to go after ebay. Even OtterBox and LifeProof who lead the game in high-end protective phone cases selling at a premium. I think it is apparent that eBay does not care. In fact, they probably know by their sales statistics that this may make up a large portion of their business. That is my guess to why eBay would not fight the counterfeiters too strongly. Lawsuits like this and public awareness of the harm are probably the best way to fight them.

The bad problem of it all is the country from where they come from has a long history of producing fake products . It is a part of their economic engine . Their way of addressing is if company is sued they go out of business and then start up under a new name . Jeff glad you mentioned other products because that is the reality we live in . A company has their product designed in house and then has it made out of country only to have their technology stolen and sold at cut rate prices out of same country . Economic parasites . Dan

[akapennypincher]

eBay is about making money, their policing of Counterfeit item is not aggressive.

I use to report Fake S. T. Dupont Ping Lighter, and Xikar products.

Most were never removed. Ebay is more interested in their commission then stop fake items.

[JRinFL]

Thank you for sharing your experience, JRinFL. It would be most helpful, whenever you're able, to share a link directly to the products on eBay. With links, we can take action. Without them, unfortunately, our options are limited.

As always, we appreciate your support!

Kristi

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[yablanowitz]

Thank you for sharing your experience, JRinFL. It would be most helpful, whenever you're able, to share a link directly to the products on eBay. With links, we can take action. Without them, unfortunately, our options are limited.

As always, we appreciate your support!

Kristi

I'm going to need help on this one.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/315090812132

Chinese fake saber grind "VG-10" G-10 Police 4. I reported it, they investigated and found it didn't violate their policies. Yeah, right.

[kennbr34]

Thank you for sharing your experience, JRinFL. It would be most helpful, whenever you're able, to share a link directly to the products on eBay. With links, we can take action. Without them, unfortunately, our options are limited.

As always, we appreciate your support!

Kristi

I'm going to need help on this one.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/315090812132

Chinese fake saber grind "VG-10" G-10 Police 4. I reported it, they investigated and found it didn't violate their policies. Yeah, right.

How can you tell it's counterfeit?

[yablanowitz]

Thank you for sharing your experience, JRinFL. It would be most helpful, whenever you're able, to share a link directly to the products on eBay. With links, we can take action. Without them, unfortunately, our options are limited.

As always, we appreciate your support!

Kristi

I'm going to need help on this one.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/315090812132

Chinese fake saber grind "VG-10" G-10 Police 4. I reported it, they investigated and found it didn't violate their policies. Yeah, right.

How can you tell it's counterfeit?

For openers, Spyderco has never made a saber grind VG-10/G-10 Police model with 4-way clip and full dual liners. In the listing's last picture you can see the Bug logo is wrong and the tang "stamp" is in the wrong place.

Edit to add: now it's the next to last picture. He added a picture of the paperwork - for a Ti Mil.

[TazKristi]

I'm going to need help on this one.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/315090812132

Chinese fake saber grind "VG-10" G-10 Police 4. I reported it, they investigated and found it didn't violate their policies. Yeah, right.

Thank you, yablanowitz! I've got you.

Kristi

[yablanowitz]

I'm going to need help on this one.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/315090812132

Chinese fake saber grind "VG-10" G-10 Police 4. I reported it, they investigated and found it didn't violate their policies. Yeah, right.

Thank you, yablanowitz! I've got you.

Kristi

Quick work getting it pulled, thank you. I hope the two people who already purchased one get refunds.

[yablanowitz]

Thank you for sharing your experience, JRinFL. It would be most helpful, whenever you're able, to share a link directly to the products on eBay. With links, we can take action. Without them, unfortunately, our options are limited.

As always, we appreciate your support!

Kristi

And I have another one for you. Pretty convincing SS Police aside from the mosquito beak bug logo.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/155405404604

[yablanowitz]

Is it just me, or has the "Report this Item" button been removed from eBay listings? I was going to report this fake and couldn't.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/386719837793

[Manixguy@1994]

Is it just me, or has the "Report this Item" button been removed from eBay listings? I was going to report this fake and couldn't.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/386719837793

Here , MG2

[yablanowitz]

Is it just me, or has the "Report this Item" button been removed from eBay listings? I was going to report this fake and couldn't.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/386719837793

Here , MG2

I see it on your picture, but it isn't there when I open the listing. Either I've used up my reporting privileges or they're pissed that Spyderco chimed in on that fake they said didn't violate their policies.

[spinynorman]

I recently reported a seller who was selling numerous Benchmade fakes - they were all new, at absurdly low prices, all shipping from China, they had subtle but visible differences in the knives from the legit models, and all of of the listing titles described the knife, but none actually said "Benchmade". Fake, fake, fake, all day long. I remember I had to dig to find the "report" tab. A few days later I got a reply from eBay saying that after investigating my complaint, they found that the seller was not in violation of eBay policies. I just couldn't understand why eBay would knowingly allow selling fakes, except for the obvious reason... $$$.
- Doug