SNK Manix 2 LW is coming!!!
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I have a few of SNK's 4v exclusives, but I skipped the previous manix 2 and native chief in the hopes that they'll do the LW models. I am greatly pleased to see the manix 2 lw as it is one of my favorites. I do hope they revisit the delica one day with this combo since we've already seen the jester done.
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I know they've done a Jester but why not a Red Ladybug or a Ladybug Hawkbill in Plain edge.
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Re: SNK Manix 2 LW is coming!!!
Is the finish DLC on this one? The Goddard was not, can anybody tell me what the type of coating was on the Goddard 4V SNK?
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Re: SNK Manix 2 LW is coming!!!
Golden knives are DLC only . MG2Traditional.Sharpening wrote: ↑Mon Dec 11, 2023 8:16 amIs the finish DLC on this one? The Goddard was not, can anybody tell me what the type of coating was on the Goddard 4V SNK?
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Re: SNK Manix 2 LW is coming!!!
Traditional.Sharpening wrote: ↑Mon Dec 11, 2023 8:16 amIs the finish DLC on this one? The Goddard was not, can anybody tell me what the type of coating was on the Goddard 4V SNK?
4V Goddard had titanium carbonitride (TiCN) coating, which is what the Seki City factory uses.
Re: SNK Manix 2 LW is coming!!!
I paid about $156 for a g10 15v manix a year ago...Sharp Guy wrote: ↑Fri Dec 08, 2023 4:35 pmLooks like Price is $134.99
https://www.stnicksknives.com/products/ ... s=e&_v=1.0
$135 for a lw in overrated 4v? Lol nope.
Re: SNK Manix 2 LW is coming!!!
You know that even the BD1N Manix 2 LW costs more in the US with a coated blade?
I think Manixes have pretty good prices anyway in general, but this 4V one is an amazing deal imo.
And I admit I am not a steel expert, but Spydercos 4V in my Goddard is anything else but "overrated" as far as I can tell.
Top three going by pocket-time (update March 24):
- EDC: Endura thin red line ffg combo edge (VG10); Wayne Goddard PE (4V), Endela SE (VG10)
-Mountains/outdoors: Pac.Salt 1 SE (H1), Salt 2 SE (LC200N), and also Wayne Goddard PE (4V)
- EDC: Endura thin red line ffg combo edge (VG10); Wayne Goddard PE (4V), Endela SE (VG10)
-Mountains/outdoors: Pac.Salt 1 SE (H1), Salt 2 SE (LC200N), and also Wayne Goddard PE (4V)
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That's ok. There'll be one for someone who wants oneErich wrote: ↑Mon Dec 11, 2023 9:25 amI paid about $156 for a g10 15v manix a year ago...Sharp Guy wrote: ↑Fri Dec 08, 2023 4:35 pmLooks like Price is $134.99
https://www.stnicksknives.com/products/ ... s=e&_v=1.0
$135 for a lw in overrated 4v? Lol nope.
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Re: SNK Manix 2 LW is coming!!!
It's expected that BD1N would cost more than 4V because it is stainless, which usually costs more than non-stainless. 4V is not but if you compare it to the stainless 'version' of 4V (Magnacut being modeled as a "stainless" version of 4V) then Magnacut is indeed more expensive.Wartstein wrote: ↑Mon Dec 11, 2023 12:24 pm
You know that even the BD1N Manix 2 LW costs more in the US with a coated blade?
I think Manixes have pretty good prices anyway in general, but this 4V one is an amazing deal imo.
And I admit I am not a steel expert, but Spydercos 4V in my Goddard is anything else but "overrated" as far as I can tell.
Re: SNK Manix 2 LW is coming!!!
I think the cost thing has come up before with exclusives like this. Correct me if I am wrong, but they commission these far in advance of a release. Pricing during the commission/contract is set at that time. So it is possible when you see an exclusive like this released we are looking back in time maybe a year or two from a price standpoint depending on the time to fulfill the special batch.
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Re: SNK Manix 2 LW is coming!!!
I did not know that indeed.Traditional.Sharpening wrote: ↑Mon Dec 11, 2023 3:48 pmIt's expected that BD1N would cost more than 4V because it is stainless, which usually costs more than non-stainless. 4V is not but if you compare it to the stainless 'version' of 4V (Magnacut being modeled as a "stainless" version of 4V) then Magnacut is indeed more expensive.Wartstein wrote: ↑Mon Dec 11, 2023 12:24 pmYou know that even the BD1N Manix 2 LW costs more in the US with a coated blade?
I think Manixes have pretty good prices anyway in general, but this 4V one is an amazing deal imo.
And I admit I am not a steel expert, but Spydercos 4V in my Goddard is anything else but "overrated" as far as I can tell.
Still, since BD1N is a steel Spyderco uses a lot more than 4V, that could lead to the former being more cost efficient to them?!
(Better prices due to buying larger quantities?)
And perhaps BD1N is easier to work with while 4V wears out grinding wheels and the like quicker?
Both points just guesses, I´ll happily stand corrected.
In any case: Though I really like BD1N, 4V is a better steel for me.
Top three going by pocket-time (update March 24):
- EDC: Endura thin red line ffg combo edge (VG10); Wayne Goddard PE (4V), Endela SE (VG10)
-Mountains/outdoors: Pac.Salt 1 SE (H1), Salt 2 SE (LC200N), and also Wayne Goddard PE (4V)
- EDC: Endura thin red line ffg combo edge (VG10); Wayne Goddard PE (4V), Endela SE (VG10)
-Mountains/outdoors: Pac.Salt 1 SE (H1), Salt 2 SE (LC200N), and also Wayne Goddard PE (4V)
Re: SNK Manix 2 LW is coming!!!
Yeah, the Ebay scalpers.Sharp Guy wrote: ↑Mon Dec 11, 2023 2:02 pmThat's ok. There'll be one for someone who wants oneErich wrote: ↑Mon Dec 11, 2023 9:25 amI paid about $156 for a g10 15v manix a year ago...Sharp Guy wrote: ↑Fri Dec 08, 2023 4:35 pmLooks like Price is $134.99
https://www.stnicksknives.com/products/ ... s=e&_v=1.0
$135 for a lw in overrated 4v? Lol nope.
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Re: SNK Manix 2 LW is coming!!!
You are correct, the raw cost of steel is not the only factor. 4V is all vanadium carbide while BD1N has little to no vanadium carbide, while it does have a fair amount of chromium carbide which is far less difficult to grind in general. How much of a difference that makes Spyderco in production is something only they could comment on.Wartstein wrote: ↑Mon Dec 11, 2023 4:04 pmI did not know that indeed.Traditional.Sharpening wrote: ↑Mon Dec 11, 2023 3:48 pmIt's expected that BD1N would cost more than 4V because it is stainless, which usually costs more than non-stainless. 4V is not but if you compare it to the stainless 'version' of 4V (Magnacut being modeled as a "stainless" version of 4V) then Magnacut is indeed more expensive.Wartstein wrote: ↑Mon Dec 11, 2023 12:24 pmYou know that even the BD1N Manix 2 LW costs more in the US with a coated blade?
I think Manixes have pretty good prices anyway in general, but this 4V one is an amazing deal imo.
And I admit I am not a steel expert, but Spydercos 4V in my Goddard is anything else but "overrated" as far as I can tell.
Still, since BD1N is a steel Spyderco uses a lot more than 4V, that could lead to the former being more cost efficient to them?!
(Better prices due to buying larger quantities?)
And perhaps BD1N is easier to work with while 4V wears out grinding wheels and the like quicker?
Both points just guesses, I´ll happily stand corrected.
In any case: Though I really like BD1N, 4V is a better steel for me.
Re: SNK Manix 2 LW is coming!!!
Why do you find 4v to be overrated? I feel like Larrin mentioned it as a favorite.Erich wrote: ↑Mon Dec 11, 2023 9:25 amI paid about $156 for a g10 15v manix a year ago...Sharp Guy wrote: ↑Fri Dec 08, 2023 4:35 pmLooks like Price is $134.99
https://www.stnicksknives.com/products/ ... s=e&_v=1.0
$135 for a lw in overrated 4v? Lol nope.
I’m legitimately curious.
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I would have thought the ingot (BD1N) vs powder (4v) production difference would make 4v more expensive.Traditional.Sharpening wrote: ↑Mon Dec 11, 2023 3:48 pmIt's expected that BD1N would cost more than 4V because it is stainless, which usually costs more than non-stainless. 4V is not but if you compare it to the stainless 'version' of 4V (Magnacut being modeled as a "stainless" version of 4V) then Magnacut is indeed more expensive.Wartstein wrote: ↑Mon Dec 11, 2023 12:24 pm
You know that even the BD1N Manix 2 LW costs more in the US with a coated blade?
I think Manixes have pretty good prices anyway in general, but this 4V one is an amazing deal imo.
And I admit I am not a steel expert, but Spydercos 4V in my Goddard is anything else but "overrated" as far as I can tell.
Re: SNK Manix 2 LW is coming!!!
Anyone who thinks Spyderco's 4V is underated has never tried it. One of their best steels in my opinion.Erich wrote: ↑Mon Dec 11, 2023 9:25 amI paid about $156 for a g10 15v manix a year ago...Sharp Guy wrote: ↑Fri Dec 08, 2023 4:35 pmLooks like Price is $134.99
https://www.stnicksknives.com/products/ ... s=e&_v=1.0
$135 for a lw in overrated 4v? Lol nope.
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+1R100 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 12, 2023 4:37 amAnyone who thinks Spyderco's 4V is underated has never tried it. One of their best steels in my opinion.Erich wrote: ↑Mon Dec 11, 2023 9:25 amI paid about $156 for a g10 15v manix a year ago...Sharp Guy wrote: ↑Fri Dec 08, 2023 4:35 pmLooks like Price is $134.99
https://www.stnicksknives.com/products/ ... s=e&_v=1.0
$135 for a lw in overrated 4v? Lol nope.
Dan
Top three going by pocket-time (update March 24):
- EDC: Endura thin red line ffg combo edge (VG10); Wayne Goddard PE (4V), Endela SE (VG10)
-Mountains/outdoors: Pac.Salt 1 SE (H1), Salt 2 SE (LC200N), and also Wayne Goddard PE (4V)
- EDC: Endura thin red line ffg combo edge (VG10); Wayne Goddard PE (4V), Endela SE (VG10)
-Mountains/outdoors: Pac.Salt 1 SE (H1), Salt 2 SE (LC200N), and also Wayne Goddard PE (4V)
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Re: SNK Manix 2 LW is coming!!!
+2Wartstein wrote: ↑Tue Dec 12, 2023 6:11 am+1R100 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 12, 2023 4:37 amAnyone who thinks Spyderco's 4V is underated has never tried it. One of their best steels in my opinion.Erich wrote: ↑Mon Dec 11, 2023 9:25 amI paid about $156 for a g10 15v manix a year ago...Sharp Guy wrote: ↑Fri Dec 08, 2023 4:35 pmLooks like Price is $134.99
https://www.stnicksknives.com/products/ ... s=e&_v=1.0
$135 for a lw in overrated 4v? Lol nope.
Dan
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Re: SNK Manix 2 LW is coming!!!
It was my understanding that BD1N is actually a powder steel but I can't recall where I may have seen that or what the source is. I remember being surprised when I read that as I thought it was not powder steel.Crox wrote: ↑Mon Dec 11, 2023 8:31 pmI would have thought the ingot (BD1N) vs powder (4v) production difference would make 4v more expensive.Traditional.Sharpening wrote: ↑Mon Dec 11, 2023 3:48 pmIt's expected that BD1N would cost more than 4V because it is stainless, which usually costs more than non-stainless. 4V is not but if you compare it to the stainless 'version' of 4V (Magnacut being modeled as a "stainless" version of 4V) then Magnacut is indeed more expensive.Wartstein wrote: ↑Mon Dec 11, 2023 12:24 pm
You know that even the BD1N Manix 2 LW costs more in the US with a coated blade?
I think Manixes have pretty good prices anyway in general, but this 4V one is an amazing deal imo.
And I admit I am not a steel expert, but Spydercos 4V in my Goddard is anything else but "overrated" as far as I can tell.
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You know you have too many knives when.... I was thinking, this would be cooler in G-10... then remembering I have this knife in G-10. I should carry it for Christmas.
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