Salt 2 Standard vs. Wharncliffe - Different enough?
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Jason Paul
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Salt 2 Standard vs. Wharncliffe - Different enough?
Hi All,
I have a Salt 2 in LC200N, standard sheepsfoot.
I'm debating getting the wharncliffe version - but are they different enough to justify having both?
I printed the Spyderco catalog page (actual size) and laid my standard Salt 2 over the wharncliffe, and the difference is very subtle. The wharncliffe tip is just a tiny bit lower, and the sheepsfoot belly is very subtle already; pretty close to straight.
So - anyone have both? Is it worth getting the wharncliffe if I already have the standard?
Thanks!
Jason
I have a Salt 2 in LC200N, standard sheepsfoot.
I'm debating getting the wharncliffe version - but are they different enough to justify having both?
I printed the Spyderco catalog page (actual size) and laid my standard Salt 2 over the wharncliffe, and the difference is very subtle. The wharncliffe tip is just a tiny bit lower, and the sheepsfoot belly is very subtle already; pretty close to straight.
So - anyone have both? Is it worth getting the wharncliffe if I already have the standard?
Thanks!
Jason
Jason
Current Rotation:
Pacific Salt 2 PE (H1)
Spydiechef
Stretch 2 (K390)
Chaparral LW
Dragonfly 2 Salt SE (Bonus 2nd blade!)
Current Rotation:
Pacific Salt 2 PE (H1)
Spydiechef
Stretch 2 (K390)
Chaparral LW
Dragonfly 2 Salt SE (Bonus 2nd blade!)
Re: Salt 2 Standard vs. Wharncliffe - Different enough?
it's real hard to say. i have a delica and a delica wharncliffe and i personally think the wharncliffe is something special, but i think you're right that they're really not that far off from each other. as much as i really like the wharncliffe, it's hard to say it's better. i think you lose some versatility with the wharncliffe blade shape, honestly. on the bright side, when they're all gone, if you don't like it, you can probably get what you paid for it.
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current collection:
C191GP, C36GMCBK2, C11ZFRDBBK, C267BK, C36MCW2, C258YL, C253GBBK, C258GFBL, C101GBBK2, C11GYW, C11FWNB20CV, C101GBN15V2, C101GODFDE2, C60GGY, C149G, C189, C101GBN2, MT35, C211TI, C242CF, C217GSSF, C101BN2, C85G2, C91BBK, C142G, C122GBBK, LBK, LYL3HB, C193, C28YL2, C11ZPGYD, C41YL5, C252G, C130G, K08BK, PLKIT1
spyderco steels:
M398, H2, CPM 20CV, CPM 15V, CTS 204P, CPM CRUWEAR, CPM S30V, N690Co, M390, CPM MagnaCut, LC200N, CTS XHP, H1, 8Cr13MoV, GIN-1, CTS BD1, VG-10, VG-10/Damascus, 440C, MBS-26
current collection:
C191GP, C36GMCBK2, C11ZFRDBBK, C267BK, C36MCW2, C258YL, C253GBBK, C258GFBL, C101GBBK2, C11GYW, C11FWNB20CV, C101GBN15V2, C101GODFDE2, C60GGY, C149G, C189, C101GBN2, MT35, C211TI, C242CF, C217GSSF, C101BN2, C85G2, C91BBK, C142G, C122GBBK, LBK, LYL3HB, C193, C28YL2, C11ZPGYD, C41YL5, C252G, C130G, K08BK, PLKIT1
spyderco steels:
M398, H2, CPM 20CV, CPM 15V, CTS 204P, CPM CRUWEAR, CPM S30V, N690Co, M390, CPM MagnaCut, LC200N, CTS XHP, H1, 8Cr13MoV, GIN-1, CTS BD1, VG-10, VG-10/Damascus, 440C, MBS-26
Re: Salt 2 Standard vs. Wharncliffe - Different enough?
To be clear: I have the sheepsfoot, but NOT the wharnie Salt 2, so no actual experience with the latter.
That said: Looking at the edge of my (btw serrated) sheepsfoot Salt 2 there is a subtle, but still clear continuous curve going on, while the wharnie (of course) has a totally straight edge... I do assume that this makes a real difference in use.
Why do I say this: Cause comparing knives with long, completely straight edge sections to such with curved edges the former clearly transfer power better when for example whittling and are less likely to "glance of" stuff that gets cut.
I figure this would be quite the same with "regular" Salt 2 vs wharnie Salt 2
As a matter of fact I am thinking about getting one of the latter too before they are gone.
All in all though Ladybug93 above certainly knows better what he is talking about than I do, since he can basically directly compare the two versions (Delica being almost the same as the Salt bladewise)
That said: Looking at the edge of my (btw serrated) sheepsfoot Salt 2 there is a subtle, but still clear continuous curve going on, while the wharnie (of course) has a totally straight edge... I do assume that this makes a real difference in use.
Why do I say this: Cause comparing knives with long, completely straight edge sections to such with curved edges the former clearly transfer power better when for example whittling and are less likely to "glance of" stuff that gets cut.
I figure this would be quite the same with "regular" Salt 2 vs wharnie Salt 2
As a matter of fact I am thinking about getting one of the latter too before they are gone.
All in all though Ladybug93 above certainly knows better what he is talking about than I do, since he can basically directly compare the two versions (Delica being almost the same as the Salt bladewise)
Top three going by pocket-time (update October 25):
- EDC: Endela SE (K390). Endela SE (VG10), Manix 2 LW (REX45)
- Mountains/outdoors: Pac.Salt 2 SE (LC200N), Salt 2 SE (LC200N), Pac.Salt 1 SE (H1)
- EDC: Endela SE (K390). Endela SE (VG10), Manix 2 LW (REX45)
- Mountains/outdoors: Pac.Salt 2 SE (LC200N), Salt 2 SE (LC200N), Pac.Salt 1 SE (H1)
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Re: Salt 2 Standard vs. Wharncliffe - Different enough?
Ultimately up to you and how you want to collect knives/spend money. As far as performance, wharncliffe being straight will cut with full force to the tip of the knife, which is a more acute tip. I am very in favor of the wharncliffe for EDC and think any fan of salt knives will enjoy it enough to buy for the current sale prices which I think is $92. I bought a backup of the salt wharnie because I carry it most days. I really like the knife.
However on the other hand, if like you I already had a Salt 2 sheepsfoot and wasn't sure I needed the wharnie version, I might look at other wharncliffes that are available to have something a little more different. The rockjumper is going away and you can buy it for $60. **** of a knife and maybe the best deal on a Spyderco right now. Delica wharncliffes are great also. The s30v teal and k390 version are being cleared out for $90. Yojimbo is a beast of a knife.
However on the other hand, if like you I already had a Salt 2 sheepsfoot and wasn't sure I needed the wharnie version, I might look at other wharncliffes that are available to have something a little more different. The rockjumper is going away and you can buy it for $60. **** of a knife and maybe the best deal on a Spyderco right now. Delica wharncliffes are great also. The s30v teal and k390 version are being cleared out for $90. Yojimbo is a beast of a knife.
Re: Salt 2 Standard vs. Wharncliffe - Different enough?
I’ve owned Salt 2 in H1 SE (until my dad accidentally got this knife seized by the TSA when he forgot it in luggage!). H1 SE is arguably the hardest edge ever offered by a Spyderco and I’m a huge fan. I’d go with H1 SE over lc200 SE & PE. I cannot speak for H2, but I’m doubtful it’s a better than its predecessor.
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SchoonerBum
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Re: Salt 2 Standard vs. Wharncliffe - Different enough?
I justified it!
I really like the Wharnie as a work knife, but I end up carrying the Salt 2 much more frequently at home, and when I'm actually at my job I prefer a true sheepsfoot so my Atlantic Salt gets 99% of the pocket time there. I'm glad I have the Salt 2 wharnie (I'm more or less a Salt collector at this point even if I won't admit that to myself) but I could get by fine without it. That said, the tip is certainly better for some fine tasks than any blade with a belly in it, and if I had to have only one wharnie, this one would be it.
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SaltyCaribbeanDfly
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Re: Salt 2 Standard vs. Wharncliffe - Different enough?
Hi Jason, I justified it too but I collect salts so go figure…I have three Salt 2 sheepsfoot models (H1 yellow SE/H2 black TiCN SE and LC200n PE) and I have two Salt 2 wharnies(H1 SE and LC SE)…personally I love the wharnie design for its efficiency in seeing the cuts through to the finish line but the sheepsfoot is awesome too…you can get the wharnie pretty cheap right now and soon they’ll only be available on the secondary market so if I were you I’d get the wharnie 
Re: Salt 2 Standard vs. Wharncliffe - Different enough?
Get the Wharncliffe while you can, you won’t regret it, the sale price is a bonus on a fantastic knife!
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Re: Salt 2 Standard vs. Wharncliffe - Different enough?
Where is the sale price? I'm tempted, even though I don't really need one.
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Jason Paul
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Re: Salt 2 Standard vs. Wharncliffe - Different enough?
OK - thanks for spending my money; just ordered one.
I already have a handful of salts - four Pacific Salt 2's (both H1 and LC200N), a Salt 2 in LC200N, two Dragonfly Salts, two Ladybug Salts, plus a Spydiechef and a Caribbean. So I'm a borderline salt collector I suppose.
I got a Manbug wharncliffe a little while back and liked the blade shape. A little later I got a Dragonfly wharncliffe (VG-10) and like it too. Those made me want to try something a little larger.
So when I saw the discontinued wharnies I wanted to pick one up. I was torn between the LC200N and K390; and corrosion resistance won the day... for now.
Thanks all!
Jason
I already have a handful of salts - four Pacific Salt 2's (both H1 and LC200N), a Salt 2 in LC200N, two Dragonfly Salts, two Ladybug Salts, plus a Spydiechef and a Caribbean. So I'm a borderline salt collector I suppose.
I got a Manbug wharncliffe a little while back and liked the blade shape. A little later I got a Dragonfly wharncliffe (VG-10) and like it too. Those made me want to try something a little larger.
So when I saw the discontinued wharnies I wanted to pick one up. I was torn between the LC200N and K390; and corrosion resistance won the day... for now.
Thanks all!
Jason
Jason
Current Rotation:
Pacific Salt 2 PE (H1)
Spydiechef
Stretch 2 (K390)
Chaparral LW
Dragonfly 2 Salt SE (Bonus 2nd blade!)
Current Rotation:
Pacific Salt 2 PE (H1)
Spydiechef
Stretch 2 (K390)
Chaparral LW
Dragonfly 2 Salt SE (Bonus 2nd blade!)
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Jason Paul
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Re: Salt 2 Standard vs. Wharncliffe - Different enough?
I ordered from Knifecenter. It was about $90.00 with free shipping (before tax).
Jason
Jason
Current Rotation:
Pacific Salt 2 PE (H1)
Spydiechef
Stretch 2 (K390)
Chaparral LW
Dragonfly 2 Salt SE (Bonus 2nd blade!)
Current Rotation:
Pacific Salt 2 PE (H1)
Spydiechef
Stretch 2 (K390)
Chaparral LW
Dragonfly 2 Salt SE (Bonus 2nd blade!)