did somebody say magnacut manix...?!

[ladybug93]

[RyanY]

I guess they will have to figure out galvanic corrosion with the ball bearing lock, or maybe they will choose a ceramic ball bearing?! I doubt it. As others have said it’s important to remember they are doing massive renovations and expansions to the golden factory where the manix is made so it could take some time before we see it. I’m excited though!

[apollo]

with the ultem craze going on, i think spyderco would run into trouble producing a translucent yellow scale that isn't ultem. some people would think it would look like they were trying to pass it off as ultem when it's not.

anyway, it seems irrelevant. when eric discussed this knife, he said it was yellow like the native. i'm not sure why the translucent thing keeps coming up. there's no reason to believe it won't be the same as the yellow native salt.

The translucent yellow keeps popping up because some member ( i can not remember who ) posted a picture here of how it would look like a long time ago and since then it has bin a running joke...

[Dnwrghtsr]

[SaltyCaribbeanDfly]

Just like sitting in a deer stand all day from before dawn till after dusk or waiting on that fish to bite for what seems an eternity or having to deal with a crowded golf course or stop-n-go traffic…patience is key and I don’t kiss any rings, never have and never will but I’m sure Spyderco has their reasons. I don’t think you’ve ruffled the feathers too much LB, just speaking your mind which is what a forum is all about…I’d like a blacked out Dfly in H2 or a green one in LC200N or an Endela Salt or a Leaf Jumper Salt and I think people saying what they want is a good thing but the bottom line is it’s a business about providing a good product and that involves hurdles which takes time

[apollo]

Just like sitting in a deer stand all day from before dawn till after dusk or waiting on that fish to bite for what seems an eternity or having to deal with a crowded golf course or stop-n-go traffic…patience is key and I don’t kiss any rings, never have and never will but I’m sure Spyderco has their reasons. I don’t think you’ve ruffled the feathers too much LB, just speaking your mind which is what a forum is all about…I’d like a blacked out Dfly in H2 or a green one in LC200N or an Endela Salt or a Leaf Jumper Salt and I think people saying what they want is a good thing but the bottom line is it’s a business about providing a good product and that involves hurdles which takes time

You’re a good man Salty! I also am sure LB is still a well loved member around here.
And wanting spydies to be made is never a bad thing. And i am sure the one he wants is the most obvious move for the Manix line. And if we talk about Salt manixes… I would love a green g10 lc200n Manix XL to go along the yellow Magnacut Lw.

[SaltyCaribbeanDfly]

Thanks dude a green g10 lc200n version would be incredible and an instant buy for me apollo

[Manixguy@1994]

I’m going to hop on the Native train in a few weeks , tired of waiting . MG2

[ladybug93]

I’m going to hop on the Native train in a few weeks , tired of waiting . MG2

the native is a close second in ergonomics for me, but the thickness behind the edge keeps it out of my pocket most of the time. also, even though it is narrower overall, the native is thicker at the clip, making it not as good in the pocket as the manix for me.

i'm holding strong... i have a lc200n native salt and a magnacut mule. at this point, i'm more likely to buy a magnacut folder from a different company than a magnacut native salt.

[Sharp Guy]

....but the thickness behind the edge keeps it out of my pocket most of the time....

I didn't have much time to measure all my Natives and Manix but the few of each that I did measure it seems like they're about the same thickness behind the edge. The SNK G10 Native is actually quite a bit less than any of my Manix IIs

[ladybug93]

....but the thickness behind the edge keeps it out of my pocket most of the time....

I didn't have much time to measure all my Natives and Manix but the few of each that I did measure it seems like they're about the same thickness behind the edge. The SNK G10 Native is actually quite a bit less than any of my Manix IIs

maybe it's just mine, but i can definitely feel a difference in use. if bte thickness was my only concern though, i'd just use a delica or a chaparral. it's just one reason prefer my manixes over my native.

[Pacu0420]

Shoot, MagnaCut on any knife. It's a fantastic steel. I would love to see it on more knives.

[Bolster]

Shoot, MagnaCut on any knife. It's a fantastic steel. I would love to see it on more knives.

There must be a more complicated backstory as to why Spyderco, usually a very steel-innovative company, has been so slow to roll out Magnacut in anything but (originally) the mule and then the Native. There must be more to it than "expansion of the factory." I've read the "looking for other steels that play nice with Magnacut" explanation too, but how long would that take. I'm thinking, there must be more to the Spyderco-Magnacut story.



I did a search at BladeHQ on Magnacut knives. Returned 367 items. Two of them (well, one, actually) were Spyderco: the PE and the SE Native. There's loads of Magnacut available out there...just not from Spyderco. As a Spyderco diehard, I'm waiting...but waiting impatiently, I confess, at this point.

[apollo]

Shoot, MagnaCut on any knife. It's a fantastic steel. I would love to see it on more knives.

There must be a more complicated backstory as to why Spyderco, usually a very steel-innovative company, has been so slow to roll out Magnacut in anything but (originally) the mule and then the Native. There must be more to it than "expansion of the factory." I've read the "looking for other steels that play nice with Magnacut" explanation too, but how long would that take. I'm thinking, there must be more to the Spyderco-Magnacut story.



I did a search at BladeHQ on Magnacut knives. Returned 367 items. Two of them (well, one, actually) were Spyderco: the PE and the SE Native. There's loads of Magnacut available out there...just not from Spyderco. As a Spyderco diehard, I'm waiting...but waiting impatiently, I confess, at this point.

My guess is either they want to perfect it before is mass releases and the native is just a test platform or option 2 they do not want to do the monkey see monkey do move.
Spyderco has almost all the amazing steels in use at regular times so maybe they just do not bother to rush things with magnacut since everyone else uses it already and they have so many steels to choose from that others just can not use? By the way plain old s30v from spyderco still kicks .... in comparison to much fancier steels from other companys.

[aicolainen]

Shoot, MagnaCut on any knife. It's a fantastic steel. I would love to see it on more knives.

There must be a more complicated backstory as to why Spyderco, usually a very steel-innovative company, has been so slow to roll out Magnacut in anything but (originally) the mule and then the Native. There must be more to it than "expansion of the factory." I've read the "looking for other steels that play nice with Magnacut" explanation too, but how long would that take. I'm thinking, there must be more to the Spyderco-Magnacut story.



I did a search at BladeHQ on Magnacut knives. Returned 367 items. Two of them (well, one, actually) were Spyderco: the PE and the SE Native. There's loads of Magnacut available out there...just not from Spyderco. As a Spyderco diehard, I'm waiting...but waiting impatiently, I confess, at this point.

My guess is either they want to perfect it before is mass releases and the native is just a test platform or option 2 they do not want to do the monkey see monkey do move.
Spyderco has almost all the amazing steels in use at regular times so maybe they just do not bother to rush things with magnacut since everyone else uses it already and they have so many steels to choose from that others just can not use? By the way plain old s30v from spyderco still kicks .... in comparison to much fancier steels from other companys.

Nah, don't think so.
Magnacut will probably be in high demand for quite some time, but the money printing bonanza will slow down as the afis get hold of a specimen or two and have their curiosity and anticipation somewhat fulfilled. To not be ready at the station when that train starts rolling is not something I'd expect any company to do deliberately.

There has no doubt been some stories about bad heat treat here and there, so some companies were obviously a little too quick out the door, but it seems they all got their process in order after some feedback from less than stoked customers.

As to why it turned out this way with Spyderco we can only speculate. Maybe they put all their Magnacut eggs in the salt basket and got stuck in the galvanic corrosion trap? That seems odd too. If they figured out how to do the N5 Magnacut, the same solution should quite easily carry over to other similar models. I was hoping to have the long since revealed and not very different magnacut UKPK in time for this shorts season (which would buy them a lot of time as it starts quite late around here), but my shorts are mostly packed away now. Maybe next summer?

[ladybug93]

yeah. it's quite odd. i've said it before, but when case comes out with a magnacut flipper before spyderco can even get a previously revealed native out, there's some kind of glitch in the matrix.

maybe things like the reception for the military 2 pushed production back on knives like this, but even that seems strange, given the sheer popularity and curiosity surrounding magnacut. case, kershaw, crk... everyone is releasing magnacut and these companies are not necessarily known for pushing boundaries in steel innovation.

i'm not going to pretend it's easy. i have now idea what kind of effort it must take to get a new steel out there. what i do know is that spyderco has a long history of being the best at doing that though. that's what makes it strange to see them left in the dust of these other manufacturers.

i suspect bolster might be right about the salt issue. even as a huge fan of the salt series, i would've been happy with high corrosion resistance without the salt moniker. a manix 2 with liners and g10 last year would've been better than a m2lw salt in three years. and i would've bought both, honestly.

[aicolainen]

i suspect bolster might be right about the salt issue. even as a huge fan of the salt series, i would've been happy with high corrosion resistance without the salt moniker. a manix 2 with liners and g10 last year would've been better than a m2lw salt in three years. and i would've bought both, honestly.

The "saltification" process could very well be a delaying factor with the M2 salt, but it doesn't explain why we haven't seen more backlocks, fixed blades or the already revealed UKPK salt in magnacut.

They surely have their reasons, and they're probably good ones, I just didn't think @Apollo's hypothesis about focusing on their other steels seems a likely explanation.

Either way, I have more- and and much better knives than my grand father ever had - and use them way less. I will survive a lesson in delayed gratification however long it takes.

[Smaug]

Manix 2 LW is already available in Maxamet. That's GAME OVER for me. ;-)

[ladybug93]

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[Mushroom]

I have to imagine Magnacut being assigned to the Salt Series is why there has been a delay in seeing more of it added to their lineup. As a result of that, any knife they use Magnacut with has to meet the standards of their Salt Series. I could be wrong but I understand that to mean “using Magnacut” and “being added to the Salt Series” are synonymous to Spyderco in this instance.

From my observations, it seems that they're very selective about which models get Magnacut because they’re very selective about which models get added to the Salt Series.

In regards to the Manix Salt in particular, I’m sure a number of factors have effected its inevitable release. I disagree in saying there has been any delay as it’s not something they’ve formally announced. I would actually counter that notion and say we’re seeing encouraging progress because we now know there was a prototype being shown off at trade shows.

I wouldn't expect to see it in the next Reveal catalog (V14) but it wouldnt surprise me if it made its debut in the following Reveal Catalog. (V15)