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Re: Potential for other models to come in 15V

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p_atrick wrote:
Tue Aug 01, 2023 3:25 pm
The addressable market of Spyderco customers is astronomically larger on IG (or insert some other social network) than whatever we can muster here on the forum. We are a dedicated bunch, probably deemed a bit crazy by some. But, for the most part, we've already drank the Koolaid. It doesn't take much to convince one of us to buy a Spyderco. The interactions on the forum and on social media won't align. And that's perfectly fine by me. I'd rather have the cordial welcome from Sal or Mike, the Talking Stories, the insight from Mike about his designs, or the general friendly attitude I find in the other forumites.
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Re: Potential for other models to come in 15V

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WilliamMunny wrote:
Mon Jul 31, 2023 8:37 pm
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Slightly disappointed that Spyderco didn't make a thread like that here in the forum...

But I guess from a marketing standpoint, it makes sense to post the question in social media like Instagram and Facebook where there is a larger sample target audience compared to us forum members. What we may want here may not translate to what the majority of Spyderco fans out there want, and an majority-unwanted knife might lead to poor sales even for a desirable sprint.
Forum seems a little ignored lately vs social media. Posted to social media first on the second sale. Spyderco posted the video explaining the box on social media and never in the forum.
Like it or not,
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The ability to communicate to an audience directly with pictures and videos rather than a wall of text suits knives well and is very well received.
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Re: Potential for other models to come in 15V

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it makes sense. on ig, the post only asked "which model?" but on the forum, the question was which golden model. i wonder if spyderco actually meant to leave it open to the entire lineup like that. if so, i might have a different answer. i like the idea of a gb2 in 15v, especially if we're talking about having a stonewashed finish. that's a knife i still want, but i have no desire to have a knife in m4, personally.
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Re: Potential for other models to come in 15V

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I tested 15V very extensively and it was just easier for me to post everything on IG. Just easier to post videos, pictures, graph comparisons and explain what each test was. This forum had positive feedback for 15V so I never really posted results here too much. When I did post anything it was on the mule section bcuz that's better labeled for steel performance over general discussion imo. I've advocated buying seki k390 over 15V bcuz the secondary market markups are far too inflated. It would be nice to see more models like the millie or the native chief get 15V. Then again I'd respect a 15V respect but that wasn't an option. I made up my mind at bladeshow that I'd buy a 4 inch caly over a millie 2 so I voted for the chief. But I would like to see more 15V in the lineup.
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Re: Potential for other models to come in 15V

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ImHereForTheMilitary2 wrote:
Tue Aug 01, 2023 5:47 am
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A 15v native 5 with a compression lock would be cool but I know that isn't gonna happen till **** freezes over 🤣
Wouldnt that just be a lil' shaman? :thinking
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Re: Potential for other models to come in 15V

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ladybug93 wrote:
Tue Aug 01, 2023 5:25 pm
it makes sense. on ig, the post only asked "which model?" but on the forum, the question was which golden model. i wonder if spyderco actually meant to leave it open to the entire lineup like that. if so, i might have a different answer. i like the idea of a gb2 in 15v, especially if we're talking about having a stonewashed finish. that's a knife i still want, but i have no desire to have a knife in m4, personally.
Just curious, why not?
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Re: Potential for other models to come in 15V

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JSumm wrote:
Tue Aug 01, 2023 7:26 pm
ladybug93 wrote:
Tue Aug 01, 2023 5:25 pm
it makes sense. on ig, the post only asked "which model?" but on the forum, the question was which golden model. i wonder if spyderco actually meant to leave it open to the entire lineup like that. if so, i might have a different answer. i like the idea of a gb2 in 15v, especially if we're talking about having a stonewashed finish. that's a knife i still want, but i have no desire to have a knife in m4, personally.
Just curious, why not?
i thought i'd give non-stainless a try and got 15v. it's been fine so far, but i also got some rust spots on my cruwear ayoob. i'm just not feeling super adventurous. i still want a k390 leafjumper, but it's a cheaper knife. spending that much for a knife that's going to want to rust on me is just a bridge too far for me.
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Re: Potential for other models to come in 15V

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ladybug93 wrote:
Tue Aug 01, 2023 7:38 pm
JSumm wrote:
Tue Aug 01, 2023 7:26 pm
ladybug93 wrote:
Tue Aug 01, 2023 5:25 pm
it makes sense. on ig, the post only asked "which model?" but on the forum, the question was which golden model. i wonder if spyderco actually meant to leave it open to the entire lineup like that. if so, i might have a different answer. i like the idea of a gb2 in 15v, especially if we're talking about having a stonewashed finish. that's a knife i still want, but i have no desire to have a knife in m4, personally.
Just curious, why not?
i thought i'd give non-stainless a try and got 15v. it's been fine so far, but i also got some rust spots on my cruwear ayoob. i'm just not feeling super adventurous. i still want a k390 leafjumper, but it's a cheaper knife. spending that much for a knife that's going to want to rust on me is just a bridge too far for me.
Gotcha. Cruwear is probably one of the more resistant steels to stain and corrosion of the non-stainless class. I would put M4 in between Cruwear and K390. I would guess but not sure (maybe someone with experience could chime in) that 15V would be closest to K390 in terms of stainlessness.
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Re: Potential for other models to come in 15V

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ImHereForTheMilitary2 wrote:
Tue Aug 01, 2023 5:47 am
sshook wrote:
Mon Jul 31, 2023 7:33 pm
A 15v native 5 with a compression lock would be cool but I know that isn't gonna happen till **** freezes over 🤣
Wouldnt that just be a lil' shaman? :thinking
If that's a lil' shaman, then what's the comp lock lil' native? A lil' lil' shaman?
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ladybug93 wrote:
Tue Aug 01, 2023 7:38 pm
JSumm wrote:
Tue Aug 01, 2023 7:26 pm
ladybug93 wrote:
Tue Aug 01, 2023 5:25 pm
it makes sense. on ig, the post only asked "which model?" but on the forum, the question was which golden model. i wonder if spyderco actually meant to leave it open to the entire lineup like that. if so, i might have a different answer. i like the idea of a gb2 in 15v, especially if we're talking about having a stonewashed finish. that's a knife i still want, but i have no desire to have a knife in m4, personally.
Just curious, why not?
i thought i'd give non-stainless a try and got 15v. it's been fine so far, but i also got some rust spots on my cruwear ayoob. i'm just not feeling super adventurous. i still want a k390 leafjumper, but it's a cheaper knife. spending that much for a knife that's going to want to rust on me is just a bridge too far for me.
It'd be nice if they'd offer some non-stainless knives in DLC for this reason. Although I appreciate the patina that develops over time, it's nice to have some knives that I can leave in my pocket without worrying about whether they'll rust.
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Re: Potential for other models to come in 15V

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ImHereForTheMilitary2 wrote:
Tue Aug 01, 2023 5:49 am
Naperville wrote:
Tue Aug 01, 2023 1:46 am

I don't carry a firearm for self defense, I carry a Spyderco Native Chief!
No reason you cant carry both!
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Re: Potential for other models to come in 15V

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JSumm wrote:
Tue Aug 01, 2023 8:06 pm
ladybug93 wrote:
Tue Aug 01, 2023 7:38 pm
JSumm wrote:
Tue Aug 01, 2023 7:26 pm
ladybug93 wrote:
Tue Aug 01, 2023 5:25 pm
it makes sense. on ig, the post only asked "which model?" but on the forum, the question was which golden model. i wonder if spyderco actually meant to leave it open to the entire lineup like that. if so, i might have a different answer. i like the idea of a gb2 in 15v, especially if we're talking about having a stonewashed finish. that's a knife i still want, but i have no desire to have a knife in m4, personally.
Just curious, why not?
i thought i'd give non-stainless a try and got 15v. it's been fine so far, but i also got some rust spots on my cruwear ayoob. i'm just not feeling super adventurous. i still want a k390 leafjumper, but it's a cheaper knife. spending that much for a knife that's going to want to rust on me is just a bridge too far for me.
Gotcha. Cruwear is probably one of the more resistant steels to stain and corrosion of the non-stainless class. I would put M4 in between Cruwear and K390. I would guess but not sure (maybe someone with experience could chime in) that 15V would be closest to K390 in terms of stainlessness.
I’ve had rust spots on my K390 twice and never on my 15V. I usually Frog Lube them at the same time. So I rate 15V better in corrosion resistance. The only advantage K390 has is availability, IMO.
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Re: Potential for other models to come in 15V

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My k390 Police will rust with the slightest moisture and it gets rust on it fast like a brake rotor. I don’t wipe my knives off if I have just carried them. I keep them in my bedroom. My 15v Manix got corrosion on it sitting in my knife box. I have no idea what got on it. That’s why most of my knives are stainless.
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Re: Potential for other models to come in 15V

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Military 2 15V please
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Re: Potential for other models to come in 15V

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vandelay wrote:
Wed Aug 02, 2023 11:11 pm
ImHereForTheMilitary2 wrote:
Tue Aug 01, 2023 5:47 am
sshook wrote:
Mon Jul 31, 2023 7:33 pm
A 15v native 5 with a compression lock would be cool but I know that isn't gonna happen till **** freezes over 🤣
Wouldnt that just be a lil' shaman? :thinking
If that's a lil' shaman, then what's the comp lock lil' native? A lil' lil' shaman?
Micro shaman, of course
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Re: Potential for other models to come in 15V

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Bdubs808 wrote:
Sun Aug 13, 2023 3:15 am
Military 2 15V please
Millie 2, Manix 2, native 5... No traffic they can't all come in 15v
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Re: Potential for other models to come in 15V

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Since Maxamet outperforms 15V and we already have a Native, PM2, P3 and a Sage in Maxamet, then 15V makes sense in larger, 4" blades like the Native Chief and the Military, because Maxamet blades won't happen in these larger models anyway.
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Re: Potential for other models to come in 15V

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kobold wrote:
Sun Aug 13, 2023 3:38 pm
Since Maxamet outperforms 15V and we already have a Native, PM2, P3 and a Sage in Maxamet, then 15V makes sense in larger, 4" blades like the Native Chief and the Military, because Maxamet blades won't happen in these larger models anyway.
15V seems to do better than maxamet in my experience. It seems to chip a lot less easily while providing similar enough wear resistance.

Also, we've only seen the Native 5 LW in maxamet. I'd like a G10 version in a super steel.
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Re: Potential for other models to come in 15V

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kobold wrote:
Sun Aug 13, 2023 3:38 pm
Since Maxamet outperforms 15V and we already have a Native, PM2, P3 and a Sage in Maxamet, then 15V makes sense in larger, 4" blades like the Native Chief and the Military, because Maxamet blades won't happen in these larger models anyway.
Yep. They can make all the PM2's and Mini Manix folders they want in 15V. Won't be interested until we see it in a larger model.

I'm not super into chasing the high edge retention dragon these days but if I could get a 15V Police or Millie I'd check it out to see how it stacks up against K390 and regular old S30V.
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Re: Potential for other models to come in 15V

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vivi wrote:
Mon Aug 14, 2023 1:24 pm
kobold wrote:
Sun Aug 13, 2023 3:38 pm
Since Maxamet outperforms 15V and we already have a Native, PM2, P3 and a Sage in Maxamet, then 15V makes sense in larger, 4" blades like the Native Chief and the Military, because Maxamet blades won't happen in these larger models anyway.
Yep. They can make all the PM2's and Mini Manix folders they want in 15V. Won't be interested until we see it in a larger model.

I'm not super into chasing the high edge retention dragon these days but if I could get a 15V Police or Millie I'd check it out to see how it stacks up against K390 and regular old S30V.
15V has been the monster that they say it is and IMO is worth the chase and hype it has received. Not too much seems to actually stack up to the word around town, but this stuff does.

The Millie 2 I picked up has S30V performing to the highest levels that I've experienced with S30V, so at this point in time, I'd say that K390 is actually closer to S30V than to 15V. As always, this is anecdotal and overall heat treatment is the largest factor. Shawn (no matter what gets said about him), really knows his sh#t when it comes to these steels and really worked with Spyderco to offer something very special to the non-custom knife market. 110% behind a Millie or Native Chief in 15V.
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