The Pivot Bushing

[wrdwrght]

I see no harm in a"little" side to side play when locked open. Most knives have side to side when closed. These are acceptable to me.
If you like zero play when open or closed invest in a CRK, of course they require a few $100's more than a Spyderco.
I prefer the Spydedrco action.

Harm isn’t really the issue here. Spyderco itself considers this side-to-side play to be substandard, which is why I was able to acquire two Lil’Native Wharncliffes at the OpSec seconds-sale. We’re supposed to be able to adjust out that play. Couldn’t on the LN wharnies; can’t on my Canis.

[wrdwrght]

Does anyone know which models have the pivot bushing? I am curious to know if there is one in my Lil’ Native?
BTW: there is not side-to side play on mine.

Working on a list, above, David.

[Unbrokenchain33]

Does anyone know if the Sage 5 CF received the CQI for the upgraded pivot system?

[Sharp Guy]

Does anyone know which models have the pivot bushing? I am curious to know if there is one in my Lil’ Native?
BTW: there is not side-to side play on mine.

Anyone feel free to correct me if I'm wrong but I've always assumed that if the pivot has removable screws on both sides it's the bushing pivot. If one side is fixed it's the D-shaped pivot.The Lil' Native comp lock has removable screws on both sides. So I assume it has the bushing pivot

[Airlsee]

The comp lock Lil Native definitely has a pivot bushing; my CF/S90V has a slight bit of play that can't be tightened out but I think it could be fixed with another set of washers.

[wrdwrght]

Does anyone know which models have the pivot bushing? I am curious to know if there is one in my Lil’ Native?
BTW: there is not side-to side play on mine.

Anyone feel free to correct me if I'm wrong but I've always assumed that if the pivot has removable screws on both sides it's the bushing pivot. If one side is fixed it's the D-shaped pivot.The Lil' Native comp lock has removable screws on both sides. So I assume it has the bushing pivot

My Lil’Native Wharncliffe has a pivot bushing.

[dull&blunt]

Does anyone know which models have the pivot bushing? I am curious to know if there is one in my Lil’ Native?
BTW: there is not side-to side play on mine.

Anyone feel free to correct me if I'm wrong but I've always assumed that if the pivot has removable screws on both sides it's the bushing pivot. If one side is fixed it's the D-shaped pivot.The Lil' Native comp lock has removable screws on both sides. So I assume it has the bushing pivot

I do not think it's that simple. Bushings are a circular piece that rides between the blade the the pivot itself. You can see them in Gut's post, circled in red, on the previous page.

I'll need to take my warni Lil Native apart to see if it has one. I don't recall any of my previous Lil Natives having bushings.

[Sharp Guy]

Does anyone know which models have the pivot bushing? I am curious to know if there is one in my Lil’ Native?
BTW: there is not side-to side play on mine.

Anyone feel free to correct me if I'm wrong but I've always assumed that if the pivot has removable screws on both sides it's the bushing pivot. If one side is fixed it's the D-shaped pivot.The Lil' Native comp lock has removable screws on both sides. So I assume it has the bushing pivot

I do not think it's that simple. Bushings are a circular piece that rides between the blade the the pivot itself. You can see them in Gut's post, circled in red, on the previous page.

I'll need to take my warni Lil Native apart to see if it has one. I don't recall any of my previous Lil Natives having bushings.

Yeah you're right. I was referring to the stepped pivot as the bushing pivot all along. (EDIT: I just noticed the edit on the first post. Apparently I'm not the only one who refers to the stepped pivot as a bushing pivot. I think they're both the accomplishing the same thing just in different ways)

This is what's in my Lil' Native comp lock and is similar to what the all the Golden comp lock knives use, at least the ones I've taken apart



Knowing this now I don't see what the big deal is about the bushing pivot vs the stepped ones in the pic above. I'll take both of my Sage 5s apart later but I don't see what advantage the bushing can have over the stepped one except maybe it's cheaper to make the bushing

[dull&blunt]

I think the advantage of bushings is consistency from one knife to the next. It enables Spyderco to deliver a silky, pneumatic-like action on all the models equipped with a bushing. This is compared to most Golden models that can be drop shut, but usually require tuning to get to that point. At least that has been my experience with Spyderco bushings vs. standard pivot.

[Sharp Guy]

I think the advantage of bushings is consistency from one knife to the next. It enables Spyderco to deliver a silky, pneumatic-like action on all the models equipped with a bushing. This is compared to most Golden models that can be drop shut, but usually require tuning to get to that point. At least that has been my experience with Spyderco bushings vs. standard pivot.

I'm not so sure there's as much of a difference between the two pivots as you think. They're both accomplishing the same thing in a different manner. I've had at least 10 PM2s and 5 G10 Para 3's. I think I've had to adjust the pivot on two, maybe three, of them. And then I only needed to move a pivot screw a tiny bit. I think one of the adjustment issues on the Golden comp lock is the stop pin setup. The Yojimbo I just got had kind of a stiff action. It wasn't the pivot that needed adjusting. I had to adjust the stop pin. The action's great now

See my edit in my post above and the edit in the first post regarding the pivots