LOL. But it's just recycled supernova, and the same supernova made all the planets in our system, so...for a real comparison test, we'd need extra-solar-system steel. Let's request some of that for the next Mule.
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Re: Origin of the STEEL in USA Made Spyderco's. Hope Sal reads.
LOL. But it's just recycled supernova, and the same supernova made all the planets in our system, so...for a real comparison test, we'd need extra-solar-system steel. Let's request some of that for the next Mule.
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Re: Origin of the STEEL in USA Made Spyderco's. Hope Sal reads.
I'm just glad that Betelgeuse didn't get mentioned 3 times!
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Re: Origin of the STEEL in USA Made Spyderco's. Hope Sal reads.
Well I did not realize we were still doing steel in the USA, yes there is no best, best in in ming of person who like one over another.sal wrote: ↑Sat Jul 08, 2023 5:15 pmHi Pennypincher,
As mentioned, and listed, most of the steels that we use in Golden are US made either by Crucible in NY or Carpenter in PA.
As to best, I always say, "no best, all good, just different".
I have to agree with Spicy Suplex, the Ganymedian steel made in "Saltu" (just above the equator) is the best, outside of Earth, but alas, no poetry?
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Re: Origin of the STEEL in USA Made Spyderco's. Hope Sal reads.
The Forever War by Joe Haldeman is a fantastic read too. Old Man's War and the subsequent novels are some of my favorites though. And pretty much anything Heinlein.Danke wrote: ↑Sat Jul 08, 2023 10:27 pmIf you're a Sci Fi guy read "Old Man's War".Naperville wrote: ↑Sat Jul 08, 2023 9:21 amIf we ever quit fighting each other on the Earth we may just get off this rock and go see what elements and iron ores exist on other planets and moons.
I was willing as a young man to work in space, but I'm 63 now and those days are gone.
For the rest of use we'll meet this halfway. Next PM2 Sprint Run can me meteorite steel.
As for steel...I don't worry about what steel my knife is using very often. K390 is my favorite, but s30 works just fine as well. I have plenty of variety, and all cut things. As long as it isn't gas station or Pakistani Damascus quality it's adequate to me!
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Re: Origin of the STEEL in USA Made Spyderco's. Hope Sal reads.
I've got copies of at least 2 of the different versions of Forever War, and Forever Free.soc_monki wrote: ↑Sun Jul 09, 2023 2:51 pmThe Forever War by Joe Haldeman is a fantastic read too. Old Man's War and the subsequent novels are some of my favorites though. And pretty much anything Heinlein.Danke wrote: ↑Sat Jul 08, 2023 10:27 pmIf you're a Sci Fi guy read "Old Man's War".Naperville wrote: ↑Sat Jul 08, 2023 9:21 amIf we ever quit fighting each other on the Earth we may just get off this rock and go see what elements and iron ores exist on other planets and moons.
I was willing as a young man to work in space, but I'm 63 now and those days are gone.
For the rest of use we'll meet this halfway. Next PM2 Sprint Run can me meteorite steel.
As for steel...I don't worry about what steel my knife is using very often. K390 is my favorite, but s30 works just fine as well. I have plenty of variety, and all cut things. As long as it isn't gas station or Pakistani Damascus quality it's adequate to me!
Still hoping for the film treatment.
Re: Origin of the STEEL in USA Made Spyderco's. Hope Sal reads.
Danke wrote: ↑Sun Jul 09, 2023 8:20 pmI've got copies of at least 2 of the different versions of Forever War, and Forever Free.soc_monki wrote: ↑Sun Jul 09, 2023 2:51 pmThe Forever War by Joe Haldeman is a fantastic read too. Old Man's War and the subsequent novels are some of my favorites though. And pretty much anything Heinlein.Danke wrote: ↑Sat Jul 08, 2023 10:27 pmIf you're a Sci Fi guy read "Old Man's War".Naperville wrote: ↑Sat Jul 08, 2023 9:21 am
If we ever quit fighting each other on the Earth we may just get off this rock and go see what elements and iron ores exist on other planets and moons.
I was willing as a young man to work in space, but I'm 63 now and those days are gone.
For the rest of use we'll meet this halfway. Next PM2 Sprint Run can me meteorite steel.
As for steel...I don't worry about what steel my knife is using very often. K390 is my favorite, but s30 works just fine as well. I have plenty of variety, and all cut things. As long as it isn't gas station or Pakistani Damascus quality it's adequate to me!
Still hoping for the film treatment.
Isn't Avatar and its sequel basically the premise of Old Man's War? You've got consciousness transfer to genetically engineered, different colored bodies, fighting for resources... etc
(I know, I know, basically a bunch of coincidences, but still worth a second thought )
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Re: Origin of the STEEL in USA Made Spyderco's. Hope Sal reads.
And The Ship Who Sang, and Altered Carbon, and When Gravity Fails. All the prototypical Cyberpunk upload/download your conscious stuff.nerdlock wrote: ↑Sun Jul 09, 2023 8:35 pmDanke wrote: ↑Sun Jul 09, 2023 8:20 pmI've got copies of at least 2 of the different versions of Forever War, and Forever Free.soc_monki wrote: ↑Sun Jul 09, 2023 2:51 pmThe Forever War by Joe Haldeman is a fantastic read too. Old Man's War and the subsequent novels are some of my favorites though. And pretty much anything Heinlein.
As for steel...I don't worry about what steel my knife is using very often. K390 is my favorite, but s30 works just fine as well. I have plenty of variety, and all cut things. As long as it isn't gas station or Pakistani Damascus quality it's adequate to me!
Still hoping for the film treatment.
Isn't Avatar and its sequel basically the premise of Old Man's War? You've got consciousness transfer to genetically engineered, different colored bodies, fighting for resources... etc
(I know, I know, basically a bunch of coincidences, but still worth a second thought )
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Re: Origin of the STEEL in USA Made Spyderco's. Hope Sal reads.
The rarity of meteorite and the fragility of it would be the issues for a knife manufacturer planning to make a blade out of it. Maybe it could be a cladding material if somebody could create a means of attaching it to another steel like VG-10. The costs would be prohibitive and the ability to use the knife would probably be nil, but for an art piece it still would attract buyers.Danke wrote: ↑Sun Jul 09, 2023 10:06 amI"d have the same worries I always have when natural materiel is involved. I'd worry about getting a "good" one.Naperville wrote: ↑Sun Jul 09, 2023 5:53 amDanke wrote: ↑Sat Jul 08, 2023 10:27 pmIf you're a Sci Fi guy read "Old Man's War".Naperville wrote: ↑Sat Jul 08, 2023 9:21 am
If we ever quit fighting each other on the Earth we may just get off this rock and go see what elements and iron ores exist on other planets and moons.
I was willing as a young man to work in space, but I'm 63 now and those days are gone.
For the rest of use we'll meet this halfway. Next PM2 Sprint Run can me meteorite steel.
Will take a look at "Old Man's War."
Meteorite steel is beautiful. I've seen it on watch faces. Would have to be a very limited run of knives. It is very pricey, not sure that I could afford it.
If I won the Lotto, you can put me down for one!
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Re: Origin of the STEEL in USA Made Spyderco's. Hope Sal reads.
Some of these exotic blade materials specially made by celebrity knife makers sell for 4-5 figures and if the buyer was a deceased celebrity for 6 figures. For example, “Anthony Bourdain’s Bob Kramer chef’s knife sold at auction for a whopping $231250”. Bourdain paid $5000 for the “meteorite” blade kitchen knife.
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And he's using the quarter million dollar knife to chop onions in his shop. Now that's avante garde.
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Re: Origin of the STEEL in USA Made Spyderco's. Hope Sal reads.
$5K then but $231K at auction because it used to belong to a dead celebrity & chef! Bourdain was a complicated man with a tragic ending. His “Anthony Bourdain: Parts Unknown” show (2013-2018) was about food, cultures, people, friendships, etc. Great stuff since the show visited so many different cuisines, countries and regions.
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Re: Origin of the STEEL in USA Made Spyderco's. Hope Sal reads.
Even a lot of foreign steel companies’ steel is made by CPM. For example, German company Zapp’s Z-wear that was used in the Z-Wear Shaman was made by CPM and rolled by Niagra, exactly the same as CPM-Cruwear. It is an identical steel with a different stamp.
Some others are actually made overseas like 20cv vs m390 vs 204p. Still the same steel though.
Some others are actually made overseas like 20cv vs m390 vs 204p. Still the same steel though.
Re: Origin of the STEEL in USA Made Spyderco's. Hope Sal reads.
RyanAnchors wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 9:18 pmSome others are actually made overseas like 20cv vs m390 vs 204p. Still the same steel though.
Although similar, CPM-20CV is made by Crucible in the U.S., CTS-204P is made by Carpenter in the U.S. and M390 is made by Bohler-Uddeholm in Sweden.
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Re: Origin of the STEEL in USA Made Spyderco's. Hope Sal reads.
I should have been more precise with my wording. Z-wear and CPM-Cruwear are the same (identical, made in the same place to the same standards), while the other three I mentioned are different manufacturer’s versions of the same steel (will naturally be slightly different). I appreciate the chart, it’s interesting that the silicon content differs ever so slightly while everything else is the same. I imagine that has no real world effect on the outcome, but maybe I’m wrong?RamZar wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 10:37 pmRyanAnchors wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 9:18 pmSome others are actually made overseas like 20cv vs m390 vs 204p. Still the same steel though.
Although similar, CPM-20CV is made by Crucible in the U.S., CTS-204P is made by Carpenter in the U.S. and M390 is made by Bohler-Uddeholm in Sweden.