I just imagine the blade in that handle had teeth (which I know it actually has not), then I tend to agree... at least in that "if I could only have one" scenario.
Still funny for me how you actually once were one of the main SE proponents who taught me a lot (especially when it comes to sharpening SE), and now your full stop back into PE.
Well, you have your personal PE edge there of course, the famous "Vivi edge" (not making fun of you, my "Vivi edge for dummies", inspired by you, works great on PE for me!)
Top three going by pocket-time (update April 25):
- EDC: Endela SE (K390). Endura thin red line ffg combo edge (VG10), Chaparral SE (CTS XHP)
- Mountains/outdoors: Pac.Salt 2 SE (LC200N), Salt 2 SE (LC200N), Endela SE (K390)
I know that you have (had?) a "post cqi" Siren, so with the lock "problem" fixed.
What features make you prefer the Pac Salt over the Siren? I know corrosion resistance is a concern of yours, but in that regard they should be at quite the same level, right?
Lighter weight? FRN? H1? From all I know the hump-less spine on the Siren should be a thing you prefer?
I never tried a Siren myself, but am strongly consideríng getting one, now that it is disco´ed and most likely further waiting for an FRN and/or SE version is in vain.
Top three going by pocket-time (update April 25):
- EDC: Endela SE (K390). Endura thin red line ffg combo edge (VG10), Chaparral SE (CTS XHP)
- Mountains/outdoors: Pac.Salt 2 SE (LC200N), Salt 2 SE (LC200N), Endela SE (K390)
i got stung by something in texas once (probably a scorpion, but it was under my sleeve and i never saw it) and i mistook an agave plant for aloe. i tried rubbing some on the sting to soothe it and my arm broke out and started itching like crazy. it was terrible.
I couldn't decide which DF2 to carry with my Crucarta PM2 today, so I ditched the PM2 and went with these instead:
How do you like the steel on that sprint?
I like it so far, very sharp but I have need needed to sharpen it yet. From what I've hear it is easy to get a nice edge but I can't confirm. Quality is great, I like it.
family beach day for good friday. i'm carrying my pac salt too, but this setting seemed most appropriate for the native.
native salt
Love the primary colors shot! Really pops the yellow of the knife. Well done; you are an arteeste. Submit for a calendar shot maybe?
I agree , wonderful shot . Dan
MNOSD 0002 / Do more than is required of you . Patton
Nothing makes earth so spacious as to have friends at a distance; they make the latitudes and longitudes.
Henry David Thoreau
i got stung by something in texas once (probably a scorpion, but it was under my sleeve and i never saw it) and i mistook an agave plant for aloe. i tried rubbing some on the sting to soothe it and my arm broke out and started itching like crazy. it was terrible.
i got stung by something in texas once (probably a scorpion, but it was under my sleeve and i never saw it) and i mistook an agave plant for aloe. i tried rubbing some on the sting to soothe it and my arm broke out and started itching like crazy. it was terrible.
Argh! I'm glad it wasn't even more serious!
Jim
yeah. i suppose i was lucky. it could've been way worse. definitely be careful about using plants for medicine and/or food without know for certain what you're messing with. i should've know better because i grew up using aloe and i'm not typically a complete idiot when it comes to being in the wilds. but we live and learn.
I know that you have (had?) a "post cqi" Siren, so with the lock "problem" fixed.
What features make you prefer the Pac Salt over the Siren? I know corrosion resistance is a concern of yours, but in that regard they should be at quite the same level, right?
Lighter weight? FRN? H1? From all I know the hump-less spine on the Siren should be a thing you prefer?
I never tried a Siren myself, but am strongly consideríng getting one, now that it is disco´ed and most likely further waiting for an FRN and/or SE version is in vain.
Comes down to handle size for me, and to a lesser degree the action.
The Siren is a great knife that does a lot of things better than the Pacific Salt. I love just about everything about it.
But for me there's two very minor flaws.
1. The handle feels about 10% undersized. My pinky grips behind the main area of the handle and feels like it wants to slip off at times.
2. With the opening and closing action, I prefer the Pacific Salt. More exposed hole is easier to access. If you remember how I like to close lockbacks (putting my index finger on the side of the opening hole to guide the blade shut), the Sirens guard gets in the way a bit.
Both are things I could overlook, but the Pacific Salt has a large enough handle it never feels undersized and the opening & closing action works great with my preferred method.
As far as the edge goes it's funny how preferences change. To me there simply is no beating a coarse PE for a pocket knife. It's fast and easy to apply with very rudimentary equipment and edge life is fantastic even on PE H1. It has cutting action similar to SE in that it really grabs materials being sliced, while having none of the drawbacks such as needing specialized sharpening tools, the tips of the teeth being fragile, chewing up cutting boards when slicing, or snagging when cutting certain materials. Sure, having your SE freshly sharpened can mitigate snagging, but I can cut a thousand feet of cardboard with my coarse PE and still have a functional edge with zero snag. Best of both worlds.
MNOSD 0002 / Do more than is required of you . Patton
Nothing makes earth so spacious as to have friends at a distance; they make the latitudes and longitudes.
Henry David Thoreau
Comes down to handle size for me, and to a lesser degree the action.
The Siren is a great knife that does a lot of things better than the Pacific Salt. I love just about everything about it.
But for me there's two very minor flaws.
1. The handle feels about 10% undersized. My pinky grips behind the main area of the handle and feels like it wants to slip off at times.
2. With the opening and closing action, I prefer the Pacific Salt. More exposed hole is easier to access. If you remember how I like to close lockbacks (putting my index finger on the side of the opening hole to guide the blade shut), the Sirens guard gets in the way a bit.
Both are things I could overlook, but the Pacific Salt has a large enough handle it never feels undersized and the opening & closing action works great with my preferred method.
As far as the edge goes it's funny how preferences change. To me there simply is no beating a coarse PE for a pocket knife. It's fast and easy to apply with very rudimentary equipment and edge life is fantastic even on PE H1. It has cutting action similar to SE in that it really grabs materials being sliced, while having none of the drawbacks such as needing specialized sharpening tools, the tips of the teeth being fragile, chewing up cutting boards when slicing, or snagging when cutting certain materials. Sure, having your SE freshly sharpened can mitigate snagging, but I can cut a thousand feet of cardboard with my coarse PE and still have a functional edge with zero snag. Best of both worlds.
Thanks for the reply,
Now I can recall that you actually mentioned that the grip area would be a bit short for your hand in your Siren review (highly recommended to all thinking about getting that knife, see here viewtopic.php?f=2&t=87480)
But given that your hands are really big, guys like me (and so folks with up to "just" XL hands) should be fine.,
Still I wonder why Lance designed the handle so that the grip area "curves up" quite early at the handle back end - would have been easy to make the flat area a bit longer as I see it.
As for closing: I actually use the method where one presses the backlock not with the thumb, but with the index finger quite a bit in "normal" conditions (not with wet, cold fingers or the like) with all of my backlocks (except the Chap) - and from all I know and what you said the Siren is king here among the backlocks, right, due to the very smooth action?
Anyway, I think it´s finally time for me to get a Siren. From all I can tell without having tried one yet it is really quite sad they disco´ed it. Looks like a really good no nonsense workhorse design.
/ On edges: I hear you, and as said: My basic Vivi-edge version (just using the CBN rods of the sm, followed perhaps by one or two light passes on the white rods) works great for me.
Still I prefer SE though. Among other things it gives me the peace of mind that I´ll always have a capable "separator" on me, even when the actual edge has gone dull already (cause SE will still rip and tear matter apart) - and I feel that I have to sharpen SE knives clearly less often than PE.
Top three going by pocket-time (update April 25):
- EDC: Endela SE (K390). Endura thin red line ffg combo edge (VG10), Chaparral SE (CTS XHP)
- Mountains/outdoors: Pac.Salt 2 SE (LC200N), Salt 2 SE (LC200N), Endela SE (K390)
Same as yesterday... another pleasant mix of trailrunning and no spin throwing, with the Salt 2 as perfect "just in case knife" in my waistband... Life is good!
Top three going by pocket-time (update April 25):
- EDC: Endela SE (K390). Endura thin red line ffg combo edge (VG10), Chaparral SE (CTS XHP)
- Mountains/outdoors: Pac.Salt 2 SE (LC200N), Salt 2 SE (LC200N), Endela SE (K390)
at least in that "if I could only have one" scenario.
s in 85 steel flavors.
