Paramilitary or Manix

[Bolster]

2.8 oz is a tad lighter than a Manix 2 LW, and the PM2 platform still offers a bit more edge/blade

Thanks for the calcs. A PM2 LW would be sweet, and might require a change in my backpack carry!

[TomAiello]

I'd love to see a CBBL Spyderco in the size of the Chaparral (or Native?), but it's my understanding that the engineering challenges of getting that lock into a knife that size are fairly large.

I spend quite a bit of time outdoors in winter, which means that reasonably bulky gloves are a standard feature of my life for several months every year.

wouldn't bulky gloves make it difficult to use a chaparral? i would think a manix would be better for that kind of use.

Sorry. Those were two different thoughts. I'd like to see a CBBL Chaparral, but not because I want it for winter outdoor use--just because I want it.

[TomAiello]

But, if you can manipulate the Compression lock then get what is best for you.=

I think the 'comp lock can't be used by lefties' is a little overdone. I have two left-handed friends who use the 'right handed' PM2 and have just learned to activate the lock tab with their thumb. It's not my cup of tea, but if you're a lefty, you can definitely learn to use the comp lock with the 'wrong' hand.

[TomAiello]

I'd love to see a CBBL Spyderco in the size of the Chaparral (or Native?), but it's my understanding that the engineering challenges of getting that lock into a knife that size are fairly large.

....

Well, the Sage 3 is pretty much Native sized, right? And the Bolt Action Lock not really too different from the CBBL, generally and regarding the space it takes up in the handle? (Never had a Sage 3 in hand though, so I can´t tell with certainty)

You are correct that the Sage 3 is a good choice for me.

I have three Sage 3's and I love them. I'm still bummed that they were discontinued. I own both the Blue G-10 and Black CF (x2) variants.

I wish that knife had been produced in some other steels. But that wasn't the point of the Sage project.

[Wartstein]

But, if you can manipulate the Compression lock then get what is best for you.=

I think the 'comp lock can't be used by lefties' is a little overdone. I have two left-handed friends who use the 'right handed' PM2 and have just learned to activate the lock tab with their thumb. It's not my cup of tea, but if you're a lefty, you can definitely learn to use the comp lock with the 'wrong' hand.

Yeah, as said in my previous post, I think so too.

Actually on backlocks most people press the tab (bar) with the thumb.
Using a (right handed) comp.lock left handed is, though not the same, still not too different to that.

Without meaning any disrespect, I sometimes think some people just don´t give techniques or approaches just a few tries till they get used to those or a bit of practice in the first place, due to the floating myths that this or that would be "so hard" or "impossible"

[akapennypincher]

Well there is no one perfect knife, not even Swiss Army with 50 blades. Does 50 things, nothing well.

[ladybug93]

I'd love to see a CBBL Spyderco in the size of the Chaparral (or Native?), but it's my understanding that the engineering challenges of getting that lock into a knife that size are fairly large.

I spend quite a bit of time outdoors in winter, which means that reasonably bulky gloves are a standard feature of my life for several months every year.

wouldn't bulky gloves make it difficult to use a chaparral? i would think a manix would be better for that kind of use.

Sorry. Those were two different thoughts. I'd like to see a CBBL Chaparral, but not because I want it for winter outdoor use--just because I want it.

i see. i've always thought of the sage as a mini manix and the chaparral as a micro manix. i like them all, but only own a manix because i'm allowed to carry a 3.5" blade. if i was restricted to smaller, i'd be happy with either of those two as smaller options. it would be cool to see them with a cbbl also, but the spring tension would have to be considerably lighter on a smaller knife or it would feel a lot less refined in my opinion.

[electro-static]

I’d get the Manix-2 LW, better Ergos and I like the leaf shaped blade better.

[mongo1958]

I'd love to see a CBBL Spyderco in the size of the Chaparral (or Native?), but it's my understanding that the engineering challenges of getting that lock into a knife that size are fairly large.

....

Well, the Sage 3 is pretty much Native sized, right? And the Bolt Action Lock not really too different from the CBBL, generally and regarding the space it takes up in the handle? (Never had a Sage 3 in hand though, so I can´t tell with certainty)

Bolt Action Lock?? Hmmm... Out side of a gun, I never heard of that.

[Wartstein]

Double post

[Wartstein]

Well, the Sage 3 is pretty much Native sized, right? And the Bolt Action Lock not really too different from the CBBL, generally and regarding the space it takes up in the handle? (Never had a Sage 3 in hand though, so I can´t tell with certainty)

Bolt Action Lock?? Hmmm... Out side of a gun, I never heard of that.

https://www.spyderco.com/catalog/details/C123GBL/621

[mongo1958]

Well, the Sage 3 is pretty much Native sized, right? And the Bolt Action Lock not really too different from the CBBL, generally and regarding the space it takes up in the handle? (Never had a Sage 3 in hand though, so I can´t tell with certainty)

Bolt Action Lock?? Hmmm... Out side of a gun, I never heard of that.

https://www.spyderco.com/catalog/details/C123GBL/621

cool, Seems like it was the predecessor of the CBBL.
https://www.spyderco.com/edge-u-cation/ ... echanisms/

[mongo1958]

Well, the Sage 3 is pretty much Native sized, right? And the Bolt Action Lock not really too different from the CBBL, generally and regarding the space it takes up in the handle? (Never had a Sage 3 in hand though, so I can´t tell with certainty)

Bolt Action Lock?? Hmmm... Out side of a gun, I never heard of that.

https://www.spyderco.com/catalog/details/C123GBL/621

Cool. Seems like it was the predecessor of the CBBL.
https://www.spyderco.com/edge-u-cation/ ... echanisms/

[mongo1958]

I'd love to see a CBBL Spyderco in the size of the Chaparral (or Native?), but it's my understanding that the engineering challenges of getting that lock into a knife that size are fairly large.

I spend quite a bit of time outdoors in winter, which means that reasonably bulky gloves are a standard feature of my life for several months every year.

wouldn't bulky gloves make it difficult to use a chaparral? i would think a manix would be better for that kind of use.

Sorry. Those were two different thoughts. I'd like to see a CBBL Chaparral, but not because I want it for winter outdoor use--just because I want it.

i see. i've always thought of the sage as a mini manix and the chaparral as a micro manix. i like them all, but only own a manix because i'm allowed to carry a 3.5" blade. if i was restricted to smaller, i'd be happy with either of those two as smaller options. it would be cool to see them with a cbbl also, but the spring tension would have to be considerably lighter on a smaller knife or it would feel a lot less refined in my opinion.

"Im allowed to carry a 3.5" blade." Is this a work place issue or a local government issue?
Where do you live?

[mongo1958]

Get both....

Well that is not possible as I have no TREE, just Cactus.

I am Southpaw, but both work for Lefty Carry.

I found a lefty PM2:
https://www.spyderco.com/catalog/details/C81GLE2/1042

[akapennypincher]

I am on fence.

[ladybug93]

wouldn't bulky gloves make it difficult to use a chaparral? i would think a manix would be better for that kind of use.

Sorry. Those were two different thoughts. I'd like to see a CBBL Chaparral, but not because I want it for winter outdoor use--just because I want it.

i see. i've always thought of the sage as a mini manix and the chaparral as a micro manix. i like them all, but only own a manix because i'm allowed to carry a 3.5" blade. if i was restricted to smaller, i'd be happy with either of those two as smaller options. it would be cool to see them with a cbbl also, but the spring tension would have to be considerably lighter on a smaller knife or it would feel a lot less refined in my opinion.

"Im allowed to carry a 3.5" blade." Is this a work place issue or a local government issue?
Where do you live?

both. i've lived and worked in places where i was restricted to smaller blades. i even got in trouble one time for carrying a multi-tool and was written up for having a large knife because the blade was over 2.5". i wasn't carrying it in defiance... the rules had recently changed and i didn't know. i will say though, that type of nonsense is a consideration for me when seeking employment in the future. it's not about the knife, although that irritates me. it's more about the organization not trusting me and putting unreasonable limits on my freedom. i don't want to work in that kind of environment.

[Netherend]

Get both....

[tomsch1963]

PM2 for me and it really comes down to the preference for the compression lock over the CBBL. I have been using my Manix 2 more lately just to become more familiar with the knife since I do think it's going to grow on my over time.

[Manixguy@1994]

I am on fence.

Here is a Left Hand Paramilitary 2 in the wild . MG2