I'll take that action!standy99 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 08, 2023 6:51 amFor me it’s a GB1 blade with a Mule handle in M4…….legOFwhat? wrote: ↑Wed Feb 08, 2023 6:42 amI wouldn't mind a Province blade with MT handle mash-up.
Mule Team XL?
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Re: Mule Team XL?
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Re: Mule Team XL?
Imho with extra length you need extra thick stock but still use existing scales and hardware. What you have is an abuseable knife that can be replaced with say Spy 27 that is a production item like the Spy 27 straight spine mule. Maybe some sprint runs in more exotic steels if proven popular. Heavier scales can be made to give balance or adding weight in the butt of the handle possibly utilizing existing holes on the steel handle and 3D print scales to hold the weights in place.
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Re: Mule Team XL?
Well, as usual I’m the one that’s not in favor of something like this. Maybe if it was a regular production version along side the current regular production SPY27 version but I would be fully against adding it to the actual Mule Team Project.
It shouldn’t be part of the Mule Team Project, in my opinion, because it would destroy the control variable that has been present through its entire existence. It just seems shortsighted in my mind to introduce a change to a research project after 35+ identical examples of Mule team knives.
As Darby noted, the Temperance 2 is already a lot like like a larger Mule Team knife. It’s worth looking into because the amount of investment needed is significantly less on your end compared to Spyderco tooling up for a whole new knife.
On top of it all, if Spydercos hands out this cookie, it won’t be long before people are asking for a glass of milk to go with it. It happens everytime. (Aka thread title - “Wharncliffe Mule? Anybody???”)
Too much of a good thing can be a bad thing. It can quickly become overwhelming and end up doing more harm than good. As one idiot who’s been obsessed with the brand for a decade, I would caution against spreading too thin.
It shouldn’t be part of the Mule Team Project, in my opinion, because it would destroy the control variable that has been present through its entire existence. It just seems shortsighted in my mind to introduce a change to a research project after 35+ identical examples of Mule team knives.
As Darby noted, the Temperance 2 is already a lot like like a larger Mule Team knife. It’s worth looking into because the amount of investment needed is significantly less on your end compared to Spyderco tooling up for a whole new knife.
On top of it all, if Spydercos hands out this cookie, it won’t be long before people are asking for a glass of milk to go with it. It happens everytime. (Aka thread title - “Wharncliffe Mule? Anybody???”)
Too much of a good thing can be a bad thing. It can quickly become overwhelming and end up doing more harm than good. As one idiot who’s been obsessed with the brand for a decade, I would caution against spreading too thin.
-Nick
Re: Mule Team XL?
this is all i saw and i am intrigued!
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current collection:
C36MCW2, C258YL, C253GBBK, C258GFBL, C101GBBK2, C11GYW, C11FWNB20CV, C101GBN15V2, C101GODFDE2, C60GGY, C149G, C189, C101GBN2, MT35, C211TI, C242CF, C217GSSF, C101BN2, C85G2, C91BBK, C142G, C122GBBK, LBK, LYL3HB, C193, C28YL2, C11ZPGYD, C41YL5, C252G, C130G, PLKIT1
spyderco steels:
H2, CPM 20CV, CPM 15V, CTS 204P, CPM CRUWEAR, CPM S30V, N690Co, M390, CPM MagnaCut, LC200N, CTS XHP, H1, 8Cr13MoV, GIN-1, CTS BD1, VG-10, VG-10/Damascus, 440C
current collection:
C36MCW2, C258YL, C253GBBK, C258GFBL, C101GBBK2, C11GYW, C11FWNB20CV, C101GBN15V2, C101GODFDE2, C60GGY, C149G, C189, C101GBN2, MT35, C211TI, C242CF, C217GSSF, C101BN2, C85G2, C91BBK, C142G, C122GBBK, LBK, LYL3HB, C193, C28YL2, C11ZPGYD, C41YL5, C252G, C130G, PLKIT1
spyderco steels:
H2, CPM 20CV, CPM 15V, CTS 204P, CPM CRUWEAR, CPM S30V, N690Co, M390, CPM MagnaCut, LC200N, CTS XHP, H1, 8Cr13MoV, GIN-1, CTS BD1, VG-10, VG-10/Damascus, 440C
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Re: Mule Team XL?
A slightly larger handle, please!
Re: Mule Team XL?
And a slightly smaller handle, too, please!
So when is that Wharncliffe mule being released?
And when do the milk & cookies arrive?
So when is that Wharncliffe mule being released?
And when do the milk & cookies arrive?
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Re: Mule Team XL?
Me 3
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Re: Mule Team XL?
it would be cool, but i was just joking. that's all i'll say about it because shiny footprints and whatnot.
keep your knife sharp and your focus sharper.
current collection:
C36MCW2, C258YL, C253GBBK, C258GFBL, C101GBBK2, C11GYW, C11FWNB20CV, C101GBN15V2, C101GODFDE2, C60GGY, C149G, C189, C101GBN2, MT35, C211TI, C242CF, C217GSSF, C101BN2, C85G2, C91BBK, C142G, C122GBBK, LBK, LYL3HB, C193, C28YL2, C11ZPGYD, C41YL5, C252G, C130G, PLKIT1
spyderco steels:
H2, CPM 20CV, CPM 15V, CTS 204P, CPM CRUWEAR, CPM S30V, N690Co, M390, CPM MagnaCut, LC200N, CTS XHP, H1, 8Cr13MoV, GIN-1, CTS BD1, VG-10, VG-10/Damascus, 440C
current collection:
C36MCW2, C258YL, C253GBBK, C258GFBL, C101GBBK2, C11GYW, C11FWNB20CV, C101GBN15V2, C101GODFDE2, C60GGY, C149G, C189, C101GBN2, MT35, C211TI, C242CF, C217GSSF, C101BN2, C85G2, C91BBK, C142G, C122GBBK, LBK, LYL3HB, C193, C28YL2, C11ZPGYD, C41YL5, C252G, C130G, PLKIT1
spyderco steels:
H2, CPM 20CV, CPM 15V, CTS 204P, CPM CRUWEAR, CPM S30V, N690Co, M390, CPM MagnaCut, LC200N, CTS XHP, H1, 8Cr13MoV, GIN-1, CTS BD1, VG-10, VG-10/Damascus, 440C
Re: Mule Team XL?
I was joking, too.
Except where Mushroom was promising cookies & milk.
I'm dead serious about wanting cookies & milk.
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Re: Mule Team XL?
IF it could be brought to reality I'd buy a 5 to 5.5 inch Spyderco Native Chief XL. Keep the same proportions for everything, just lengthen it from 4, to a 5 or 5.5 inch blade. If you make it 25% to 33% larger everywhere, that's it.
It may be an excellent fixed blade.
It may be an excellent fixed blade.
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Re: Mule Team XL?
i was eating an oatmeal cookie with white chocolate chips and craisins when i read this, so i guess i agree.
keep your knife sharp and your focus sharper.
current collection:
C36MCW2, C258YL, C253GBBK, C258GFBL, C101GBBK2, C11GYW, C11FWNB20CV, C101GBN15V2, C101GODFDE2, C60GGY, C149G, C189, C101GBN2, MT35, C211TI, C242CF, C217GSSF, C101BN2, C85G2, C91BBK, C142G, C122GBBK, LBK, LYL3HB, C193, C28YL2, C11ZPGYD, C41YL5, C252G, C130G, PLKIT1
spyderco steels:
H2, CPM 20CV, CPM 15V, CTS 204P, CPM CRUWEAR, CPM S30V, N690Co, M390, CPM MagnaCut, LC200N, CTS XHP, H1, 8Cr13MoV, GIN-1, CTS BD1, VG-10, VG-10/Damascus, 440C
current collection:
C36MCW2, C258YL, C253GBBK, C258GFBL, C101GBBK2, C11GYW, C11FWNB20CV, C101GBN15V2, C101GODFDE2, C60GGY, C149G, C189, C101GBN2, MT35, C211TI, C242CF, C217GSSF, C101BN2, C85G2, C91BBK, C142G, C122GBBK, LBK, LYL3HB, C193, C28YL2, C11ZPGYD, C41YL5, C252G, C130G, PLKIT1
spyderco steels:
H2, CPM 20CV, CPM 15V, CTS 204P, CPM CRUWEAR, CPM S30V, N690Co, M390, CPM MagnaCut, LC200N, CTS XHP, H1, 8Cr13MoV, GIN-1, CTS BD1, VG-10, VG-10/Damascus, 440C
Re: Mule Team XL?
It’s such a pleasure to wake up and read a load of good natured banter on a forum. I used to be a member of some chainsaw porting forums and the folk on there could be quite unpleasant to each other - really put me off being a part of those communities.
@Mushroom - good points well made. I’m not proposing that it should fulfil the current Mule’s role as a steel test bed platform. What I would like is a large bladed (6 inch or so) knife for use at work in a forestry application. I think there is a gap in the market for Spyderco to bring their unique design and ethical philosophy with a utilitarian offering at that size. Interoperability between current Mule scales and parts would be a bonus, but is not something I’m hung up on.
I love using my Mules as they are so beautifully designed and executed whilst being presented to us at a reasonable price point. If I could get double the blade length in a great steel with Spyderco’s heat treat for around double the price I would be thrilled and wouldn’t hesitate to use the thing to death. I’d be more reluctant to really use something for genuine work utility that I’d paid $500 upwards for from a custom maker.
@Mushroom - good points well made. I’m not proposing that it should fulfil the current Mule’s role as a steel test bed platform. What I would like is a large bladed (6 inch or so) knife for use at work in a forestry application. I think there is a gap in the market for Spyderco to bring their unique design and ethical philosophy with a utilitarian offering at that size. Interoperability between current Mule scales and parts would be a bonus, but is not something I’m hung up on.
I love using my Mules as they are so beautifully designed and executed whilst being presented to us at a reasonable price point. If I could get double the blade length in a great steel with Spyderco’s heat treat for around double the price I would be thrilled and wouldn’t hesitate to use the thing to death. I’d be more reluctant to really use something for genuine work utility that I’d paid $500 upwards for from a custom maker.
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Dream knives -
Chinook in Magnacut (any era)
Manix 2 XL Salt in Magnacut
A larger Rockjumper in Magnacut SE
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Dream knives -
Chinook in Magnacut (any era)
Manix 2 XL Salt in Magnacut
A larger Rockjumper in Magnacut SE
Re: Mule Team XL?
This is an abomination.
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Re: Mule Team XL?
Dark chocolate chips with pre toasted rolled oats, dried cherries and rum soaked raisins. Your welcome
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Re: Mule Team XL?
- Al
Work: Jumpmaster 2
Home: DF2 K390 Wharncliffe/DF2 Salt H1 SE and K390 Police 4 LW SE/15V Shaman
Dream knives -
Chinook in Magnacut (any era)
Manix 2 XL Salt in Magnacut
A larger Rockjumper in Magnacut SE
Work: Jumpmaster 2
Home: DF2 K390 Wharncliffe/DF2 Salt H1 SE and K390 Police 4 LW SE/15V Shaman
Dream knives -
Chinook in Magnacut (any era)
Manix 2 XL Salt in Magnacut
A larger Rockjumper in Magnacut SE
Re: Mule Team XL?
I like the concept, and I’m already liking my Mule Team 2. I’ve started testing and it’s pretty promising, for my preferences and uses.
A bigger one would be neat, though, only as a production knife.
If nothing else, I think it would be an interesting addition to the fixed blade market if it was presented with all of the other Spyderco things (like SpyderEdge, Spy27, Mule Team handles, Boltaron sheaths with G-Clips, and good geometry).
I’m a big fan of Spyderco fixed blades and have often lamented their apparent lack of recognition and sometimes discontinuation.
One day, I want to make prototypes of some fixed blades I’ve designed “with Spyderco in mind” and maybe see where that takes the ideas (ideas = protos) that I found in my head.
This just means I want to see Spyderco’s fixed blades gain recognition because I hope they might be inclined to make more in response.
I guess that could be seen as a bit selfish, but my support for their fixed blades is entirely rooted in my genuine appreciation of their high performance.
It’s a big win, in my eyes, if Spyderco makes more fixed blades, to sum it up.
A bigger one would be neat, though, only as a production knife.
If nothing else, I think it would be an interesting addition to the fixed blade market if it was presented with all of the other Spyderco things (like SpyderEdge, Spy27, Mule Team handles, Boltaron sheaths with G-Clips, and good geometry).
I’m a big fan of Spyderco fixed blades and have often lamented their apparent lack of recognition and sometimes discontinuation.
One day, I want to make prototypes of some fixed blades I’ve designed “with Spyderco in mind” and maybe see where that takes the ideas (ideas = protos) that I found in my head.
This just means I want to see Spyderco’s fixed blades gain recognition because I hope they might be inclined to make more in response.
I guess that could be seen as a bit selfish, but my support for their fixed blades is entirely rooted in my genuine appreciation of their high performance.
It’s a big win, in my eyes, if Spyderco makes more fixed blades, to sum it up.
rex121 is the king of steel, but nature’s teeth have been cutting for hundreds of millions of years and counting :cool:
Re: Mule Team XL?
I was thinking the ‘Big ***’, but the ‘Work Horse’ is more grown up
- Al
Work: Jumpmaster 2
Home: DF2 K390 Wharncliffe/DF2 Salt H1 SE and K390 Police 4 LW SE/15V Shaman
Dream knives -
Chinook in Magnacut (any era)
Manix 2 XL Salt in Magnacut
A larger Rockjumper in Magnacut SE
Work: Jumpmaster 2
Home: DF2 K390 Wharncliffe/DF2 Salt H1 SE and K390 Police 4 LW SE/15V Shaman
Dream knives -
Chinook in Magnacut (any era)
Manix 2 XL Salt in Magnacut
A larger Rockjumper in Magnacut SE
Re: Mule Team XL?
It’s a funny thing - I started buying Spyderco folding knives for work as they’re brilliant, but after acquiring a couple of Mules they have become my go-to for a plain edge blade. They are so durable, ergonomic, easy to clean, a pleasure to sharpen, the list is long. The only folder I always have with me now is my Caribbean Salt 2 SE as even though there are so many things about it that I don’t love it is frankly just brilliant at what it does.Cl1ff wrote: ↑Wed Feb 08, 2023 7:18 pmI like the concept, and I’m already liking my Mule Team 2. I’ve started testing and it’s pretty promising, for my preferences and uses.
A bigger one would be neat, though, only as a production knife.
If nothing else, I think it would be an interesting addition to the fixed blade market if it was presented with all of the other Spyderco things (like SpyderEdge, Spy27, Mule Team handles, Boltaron sheaths with G-Clips, and good geometry).
I’m a big fan of Spyderco fixed blades and have often lamented their apparent lack of recognition and sometimes discontinuation.
One day, I want to make prototypes of some fixed blades I’ve designed “with Spyderco in mind” and maybe see where that takes the ideas (ideas = protos) that I found in my head.
This just means I want to see Spyderco’s fixed blades gain recognition because I hope they might be inclined to make more in response.
I guess that could be seen as a bit selfish, but my support for their fixed blades is entirely rooted in my genuine appreciation of their high performance.
It’s a big win, in my eyes, if Spyderco makes more fixed blades, to sum it up.
- Al
Work: Jumpmaster 2
Home: DF2 K390 Wharncliffe/DF2 Salt H1 SE and K390 Police 4 LW SE/15V Shaman
Dream knives -
Chinook in Magnacut (any era)
Manix 2 XL Salt in Magnacut
A larger Rockjumper in Magnacut SE
Work: Jumpmaster 2
Home: DF2 K390 Wharncliffe/DF2 Salt H1 SE and K390 Police 4 LW SE/15V Shaman
Dream knives -
Chinook in Magnacut (any era)
Manix 2 XL Salt in Magnacut
A larger Rockjumper in Magnacut SE