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It Calls to Me, My Precious!

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Yeah, Looks Like I'm going to have a race. Lets see which leaf blade gets to the house first.
The M2 or the Sage 5.
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that's a really great choice too. congrats! it's basically like a m2lw mini with a compression lock.
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ladybug93 wrote:
Sat Feb 04, 2023 7:03 pm
that's a really great choice too. congrats! it's basically like a m2lw mini with a compression lock.
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The Sage is one of my top 3 knives. I love the Taichung FRN pattern. It might be my favorite of the FRN's.
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Very nice!
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Can't go wrong with either the Manix 2 or Sage 5 lightweight. Hope you like your new knives.
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Hey Spyderco gurus, Does this knife have, full liners, blade bushing, and inner blade channel with a stopping pin?
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Let me guess , the Sage is coming from the state of Louisiana? 😀 MG2
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mongo1958 wrote:
Sat Feb 04, 2023 11:06 pm
Hey Spyderco gurus, Does this knife have, full liners, blade bushing, and inner blade channel with a stopping pin?

Yes. Full liners with some holes to reduce weight. Pivot bushing as well.
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Whoa, very nice, I did not expect this kind of construction until I saw it in a video. Just needed to confirm with y'all.
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Manixguy@1994 wrote:
Sat Feb 04, 2023 11:12 pm
Let me guess , the Sage is coming from the state of Louisiana? 😀 MG2
LOL Yes, I think it is. It was ordered from Knife Works. How did you know? :thinking
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Bemo wrote:
Sat Feb 04, 2023 9:28 pm
The Sage is one of my top 3 knives. I love the Taichung FRN pattern. It might be my favorite of the FRN's.
That is encouraging to know. The Sage will be my 2nd light weight. The size seems to be close to the Para 3.
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mongo1958 wrote:
Wed Feb 08, 2023 6:53 am
Bemo wrote:
Sat Feb 04, 2023 9:28 pm
The Sage is one of my top 3 knives. I love the Taichung FRN pattern. It might be my favorite of the FRN's.
That is encouraging to know. The Sage will be my 2nd light weight. The size seems to be close to the Para 3.

Sir, you are making good decisions lately ! :smlling-eyes

The Sage LW is actually the only comp.lock folder that interests me at the moment. Very cool and clever design!

And yes, pretty similar to a Para 3 in dimensions (just by the given specs an just a tad smaller package, but probably not really noticeable) - but from what I can see a better design.
I think one can see that the Sage was developed from scratch as a perfect small folder in all aspects, while the Para 3 tries to be a smaller PM2, but adopts features of its bigger sibling that are suited for the PM2, but perhaps not so much for the smaller Para 3

So, again: Great choice imo! Curious how you´ll like it!
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mongo1958 wrote:
Wed Feb 08, 2023 6:33 am
Manixguy@1994 wrote:
Sat Feb 04, 2023 11:12 pm
Let me guess , the Sage is coming from the state of Louisiana? 😀 MG2
LOL Yes, I think it is. It was ordered from Knife Works. How did you know? :thinking
The KW picture . I have bought knives from them for a long time . Hope you like the knife , I have looked at them several times .MG2
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Wartstein wrote:
Wed Feb 08, 2023 7:14 am
mongo1958 wrote:
Wed Feb 08, 2023 6:53 am
Bemo wrote:
Sat Feb 04, 2023 9:28 pm
The Sage is one of my top 3 knives. I love the Taichung FRN pattern. It might be my favorite of the FRN's.
That is encouraging to know. The Sage will be my 2nd light weight. The size seems to be close to the Para 3.

Sir, you are making good decisions lately ! :smlling-eyes

The Sage LW is actually the only comp.lock folder that interests me at the moment. Very cool and clever design!

And yes, pretty similar to a Para 3 in dimensions (just by the given specs an just a tad smaller package, but probably not really noticeable) - but from what I can see a better design.
I think one can see that the Sage was developed from scratch as a perfect small folder in all aspects, while the Para 3 tries to be a smaller PM2, but adopts features of its bigger sibling that are suited for the PM2, but perhaps not so much for the smaller Para 3

So, again: Great choice imo! Curious how you´ll like it!
The Para was my first Spyderco. The PM2 was my second. I like them both but favor the Para 3 a bit more. I will be happy If the Sage can measure up to the Para 3.
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Manixguy@1994 wrote:
Wed Feb 08, 2023 8:33 am
mongo1958 wrote:
Wed Feb 08, 2023 6:33 am
Manixguy@1994 wrote:
Sat Feb 04, 2023 11:12 pm
Let me guess , the Sage is coming from the state of Louisiana? 😀 MG2
LOL Yes, I think it is. It was ordered from Knife Works. How did you know? :thinking
The KW picture . I have bought knives from them for a long time . Hope you like the knife , I have looked at them several times .MG2
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OH MY GOSH! I just got home and opened the box and the Sage 5 is absolutely an awesome knife. The Sage 5 is a light knife and it is small compared to the Manix 2. The blade pivot is like it is on ball bearings😍. Deploying the blade is very snappy and it is so fast that it seems like it has a spring assist🤩. When the blade is unlocked, it drops with out any resistance at all.
Fit, form, and finish are great. I like the texture of the scales better than the Manix 2.
The sharpened beveled edge of the blade is even on both sides and when closed the blade is centered. The Sage is not as sharp as the Manix 2 but it is about as sharp as my Para 3 with the 110 steel.
I can get 2 solid grips on this knife, one that chokes up with my thumb riding on top of the blade, the other further down the handle with all my fingers comfortably on the handle and my thumb on the spine of the handle. The clip does not interfere with any position that I grip the knife, I like the clip and it works well.
This is a nit picky thing here but I'd like the scales to be a little thicker.
The Sage 5 is an awesome knife.
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mongo1958 wrote:
Thu Feb 09, 2023 12:08 am
OH MY GOSH! I just got home and opened the box and the Sage 5 is absolutely an awesome knife. The Sage 5 is a light knife and it is small compared to the Manix 2. The blade pivot is like it is on ball bearings😍. Deploying the blade is very snappy and it is so fast that it seems like it has a spring assist🤩. When the blade is unlocked, it drops with out any resistance at all.
Fit, form, and finish are great. I like the texture of the scales better than the Manix 2.
The sharpened beveled edge of the blade is even on both sides and when closed the blade is centered. The Sage is not as sharp as the Manix 2 but it is about as sharp as my Para 3 with the 110 steel.
I can get 2 solid grips in this knife, one that chokes up with my thumb riding on top of the blade, the other further down the handle with all my fingers comfortably on the handle and my thumb on the spine of the handle. The clip does not interfere with any position that I grip the knife, I like the clip and it works well.
This is a nit picky thing here but I'd like the scales to be a little thicker.
The Sage 5 is an awesome knife.

Glad you like it! I really must get one myself too (again, you are the "new to the forum but still already professional enabler" - guy :') )

And I´d be interested how it compares to the Para 3 for you now that you have both. As said already, I think one can see that the Sage 5 was designed from scratch as a perfect small folder, while the Para 3 suffers a tiny bit from being a "shrunken PM2" (thick blade stock, handle not optimized to get a good four finger grip behind the choil due to that restricting "beak" at the handle end while the Sage is flat there)
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Wartstein wrote:
Thu Feb 09, 2023 12:21 am
mongo1958 wrote:
Thu Feb 09, 2023 12:08 am
OH MY GOSH! I just got home and opened the box and the Sage 5 is absolutely an awesome knife. The Sage 5 is a light knife and it is small compared to the Manix 2. The blade pivot is like it is on ball bearings😍. Deploying the blade is very snappy and it is so fast that it seems like it has a spring assist🤩. When the blade is unlocked, it drops with out any resistance at all.
Fit, form, and finish are great. I like the texture of the scales better than the Manix 2.
The sharpened beveled edge of the blade is even on both sides and when closed the blade is centered. The Sage is not as sharp as the Manix 2 but it is about as sharp as my Para 3 with the 110 steel.
I can get 2 solid grips in this knife, one that chokes up with my thumb riding on top of the blade, the other further down the handle with all my fingers comfortably on the handle and my thumb on the spine of the handle. The clip does not interfere with any position that I grip the knife, I like the clip and it works well.
This is a nit picky thing here but I'd like the scales to be a little thicker.
The Sage 5 is an awesome knife.

Glad you like it! I really must get one myself too (again, you are the "new to the forum but still already professional enabler" - guy :') )

And I´d be interested how it compares to the Para 3 for you now that you have both. As said already, I think one can see that the Sage 5 was designed from scratch as a perfect small folder, while the Para 3 suffers a tiny bit from being a "shrunken PM2" (thick blade stock, handle not optimized to get a good four finger grip behind the choil due to that restricting "beak" at the handle end while the Sage is flat there)
It would probably be a better to compare the Para 3 lightweight to the Sage 5 lightweight.
Regardless, here we go.
The cutting edge on both knives are very close to the same length and curvature to each other.
The blade of the Para is more clip point(ish) and the Sage is more drop point(ish), or maybe they are a morphed version of both types of blades. Who knows?
The top portion of blades and blade thickness is where the differences are seen. The the grooves or what ever they are called on the bottom of the blade (finger choil, I think) and it's curvature of both knives are very close, to the point where I can't tell the difference between them. The top groves of the Para's blade ramps up a little higher. I like this feature, it adds a bit more leverage for aggressive deep cutting. You can do the same think with the Sage but it just seems to me that the Para wins in that aspect. The shape of the handles are almost identical, the bottom of the handle, towards the lanyard, is where the shapes begin to differ.
When I choke up on both knives, all my fingers are comfortably griping the handle. When I move my hand down below finger choil (if that is what is is called), my fingers have room (barely) on both knives.
In the pocket, I can't tell if they are there, until I need to put my hand in my pocket. I did swap out the clip on the para so both have deep pocket carry clips. A little bit of the Sage sticks out of the pocket where the Para is completely submerged.
I like both knives and if pressed to pick only one of these, I would have to go with.... No, I can't do it! I like them both equally the same! EDIT NOTE: The Sage 5 does not come out of the pocket well compared to my Para 3. I think it is due to the shape of the directional texture on the scales.
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Text removed due to Fred Flintstone fingers! :zany
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