CPM 15v Manix 2

[Phil Wilson]

Shawn and all. I did pass on a photo of the cutting tests, perhaps you could follow up with it. Thanks, Phil

[skeeg11]

Shaun's work and Phil's endorsement. Doesn't get any better than that. Looking forward to seeing where Spyderco moves 15V in their lineup.

[Kleon]

Phil

Thanks for your report. What an amazing place this forum is for learning / discovery. Terrific having a legend like you testing a knife that is available to so many.

[Bemo]

Amazing accomplishment Shawn and Spyderco! I'm excited to receive mine next week. But anyone else start drooling at the thought of a K390 South Fork?

[Rymanz]

The CPM 15V Manix 2 has the same geometry as the other Manix 2 knives made in 2022 and before.

~17dps

Should be noted that it is impossible to make the perfect angle that would be a solution to ALL USERS.

If a person needs more durability? Go 25dps
If a person wants better cutting ability? Go 15dps.

Cutting ability and durability are inverse relationships.

An end users preferences and uses will be the biggest factor for whats wanted or needed.

I wonder if the acute factory angle was based on input/direction from Shawn? From pictures I've seen, these definitely have a noticeably larger edge bevel versus other Manix I've seen.

17 dps is my target, so that works perfect.

[vandelay]

wow I got lucky checking on the house of knives listing when I did. It sold out about 30 minutes later (though maybe posting in the alert thread sped it up a bit). I wasn't expecting to be able to get one with how quick they're selling out.

[Deadboxhero]

Photos by Phil Wilson

Phil requested I upload these pictures for him, save him the hassle.

15V

I was fortunate to get a CPM 15V Maxus 2 to work with and over the next few months will use it in a daily way, working in the shop and carrying with me. I do have some observations I can make based on this initial use. This knife tested 65 Rockwell and an average of 0.024 behind the edge.

The blade finish is incredible. Even more impressive for a steel grade with such high carbide volume and hardness.
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The sharpness out of the box was also very good. I made an initial single cut on 3/4 manila rope and it sliced cleanly with good aggression. Downward pressure to enable this first cut was 20 to 25 pounds. It sliced printer paper like zip with out any hang up. I have tested many knives that had no bite and would slide on rope with the initial sharpening so I feel this is excellent out of the box sharpening.

The knife feels solid in the hand, no discernible play either in the lock or pivot. The handle shape provides a very secure grip and the scales are non slip.

I did some more extensive cutting tests on 3/4 manila rope using my standard that I use on my knives. Manila rope makes an ideal cutting medium since it simulates animal hair like found on deer, elk and wild pigs. Rope does change over time depending on age and ambient humidity. To compensate for this it is necessary to to have a datum knife to compare to the blade being tested. In this case I used a South Fork in K390 that had 0.015 thickness behind the edge and full flat grind geometry. The hardness is RC 64 tested on my Wilson tester and standard test block.

I used the as delivered edge and found it to start to slide at about half of that of the datum knife. Resharpening the Manix 2 on a vitrified diamond plate with 320 grit gave a nice aggressive edge.This edge now provided performance close to the datum knife. This is is good performance considering the thicker behind the edge of the Maxus 2. When doing my testing I am always amazed on how much difference the sharpening and behind the edge thickness makes. I have seen sharpening media and grit size to make as much as 50% difference on the same blade cutting the same test media. I estimate that with comparable edge thickness the Maxus 2 CPM 15V would end up at 15% better edge holding than the datum knife. This compares pretty close with the work that doctor Larrin (knifesteelnerds.com) has done in his CATRA testing on comparing blade steels. Shawn (BBB) working with Spyderco has done a lot of work and research to optimize the heat treat and it appears that is spot on. We now have another high carbide, high hardness blade steel that will find a niche in that category and has a lot of potential to have the balance to be a winner.

[Buddafucco]

Hey Shawn... Congrats on your new baby boy! Make sure you grab a 15v Manix for him for when he's old enough!

[msum]

Hey Shawn... Congrats on your new baby boy! Make sure you grab a 15v Manix for him for when he's old enough!

Congratulations!

[msum]

Sorry to mess up the Alert thread by asking this question there. But what is the import duty for getting something from CAN to USA? I assume it depends on the item, but is there a schedule somewhere that can be consulted? Doesn’t apply to me on this occasion, but I figure it’s possible it might in future…

Also, what’s the situation with Indiana Knives going out of stock then getting re-listed so quickly? Does that happen not uncommonly with these Sprint Runs?

[Deadboxhero]

THANK you, its been an amazing day.

My beautiful son.

Trevor Houston

12/18/2022

I'll love him forever.

Hey Shawn... Congrats on your new baby boy! Make sure you grab a 15v Manix for him for when he's old enough!

[TkoK83Spy]

Congrats Shawn!!

[msum]

THANK you, its been an amazing day.

My beautiful son.

Trevor Houston

12/18/2022

I'll love him forever.

Great news!

Now get off the forum and enjoy. ;-)

[JSumm]

Congrats Shawn! What an awesome day!

[WilliamMunny]

THANK you, its been an amazing day.

My beautiful son.

Trevor Houston

12/18/2022

I'll love him forever.

Hey Shawn... Congrats on your new baby boy! Make sure you grab a 15v Manix for him for when he's old enough!

Congratulations! I have two boys myself and they are a ton of fun. BTW it will get easier when he is about 2 months old, the time he sleeps through the night.

[Bemo]

Congrats and good health to Mom and son!

[DarkCleric21]

I’ve had emails and watch list for this knife. Had one sold from my basket as I was checking out. This is so frustrating and infuriating.

[Buddafucco]

Sorry to mess up the Alert thread by asking this question there. But what is the import duty for getting something from CAN to USA? I assume it depends on the item, but is there a schedule somewhere that can be consulted? Doesn’t apply to me on this occasion, but I figure it’s possible it might in future…

Also, what’s the situation with Indiana Knives going out of stock then getting re-listed so quickly? Does that happen not uncommonly with these Sprint Runs?

I don't have an answer to your 1st question because I've never imported anything. I'm sure somebody around here knows that stuff though.

I've seen dealers go in and out of stock like that often. I once read that they do that to prevent over-selling if they get bombarded with orders. If the payment processer is slow, and it over-sells, they have a back up inventory to cover it. Take that with a grain of salt, because I'm not sure how true it is, or if that was the case today.

[msum]

I don't have an answer to your 1st question because I've never imported anything. I'm sure somebody around here knows that stuff though.

I've seen dealers go in and out of stock like that often. I once read that they do that to prevent over-selling if they get bombarded with orders. If the payment processer is slow, and it over-sells, they have a back up inventory to cover it. Take that with a grain of salt, because I'm not sure how true it is, or if that was the case today.

Thanks Beau.

Seems plausible. But for really hot items, does one need a backup for the backup? ;-)

[electro-static]

THANK you, its been an amazing day.

My beautiful son.

Trevor Houston

12/18/2022

I'll love him forever.

Hey Shawn... Congrats on your new baby boy! Make sure you grab a 15v Manix for him for when he's old enough!

Holy ****! Congratulations! That’s awesome!