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C83 Persian
There are several features in the design of the C83 Persian that I'd like to share with you folks. I like multiple working grip positions. The back grip on the Persian allows the slightly negative angled blade to work as a 4.5 inch blade rather than its measured lenght of 3.5 inches. By choking up on the blade you have more control for delicate cutting operations. Moving your middle finger into the index finger groove allows for a fine caping action. The knife is narrow at the standard grip index finger position. Your index finger is the fulcurm to which the thumb holds the knife. This positon has alot to do with how easy it is to manipulate the knife with your fingers. Try this out for yourself by using sticks of various widths and see how far you can rotate the sticks between your thumb and forefinger. This knife holds very naturally in the reverse grip position. When the knife is clipped in your right pocket slid back toward your hip, the long radius of the back of the handle guides and slides your hand into the pocket without scraping your hand. This aids in pocket access and knife delivery. Let me congratulate Spyderco on the high quality that this design has been delivered to market. I'm more than satisfied with this vault of a knife..Thanks..Ed Schempp
Hello Ed, thank you for sharing the detail of your design with us. I have not yet received my knife, but it is in the mail as I've been told. We've met before at the Spyderco booth this year at the SHOT show in Orlando and I look forward meeting you again next year in Las Vegas. I highly appreciate the Persian design and I would love to talk knives and damascus with you again. Have a great Thanksgiving and a peaceful holiday season.
Jurphaas.
Clipits work!
Jurphaas.
Clipits work!
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Thanks for the info Ed, and thanks even more for designing what, IMHO, is one of the best looking Spydies ever. Not an easy trick designing something that combines functionality with grace and eye appeal, but you sure nailed it on this one. Now if my fellow southpaws and I can just bully Sal into making a LH clip for it, it will be perfect!
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Dear Mr. Schempp,
Congratulations on your newest custom collaboration with Spyderco. The Persian has some beautiful lines and the ergonomy seems great. It hit the spot at first sight <img src="smile.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle border=0> Thank you.
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Congratulations on your newest custom collaboration with Spyderco. The Persian has some beautiful lines and the ergonomy seems great. It hit the spot at first sight <img src="smile.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle border=0> Thank you.
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Mr. Shemp and others,
As my first post on this forum, I just wanted to comment on how awesome I think this knife is. I just got mine a few weeks ago, and I must say that this is currently my favorite folder. The design is both highly practical as well as beautiful, and is now my main EDC. Very nice work!
I may write a more detailed review on my site, or even here when time allows, just to express why I feel so strongly about this product...
...but now I am off to teach a class...
yours,
Paul
As my first post on this forum, I just wanted to comment on how awesome I think this knife is. I just got mine a few weeks ago, and I must say that this is currently my favorite folder. The design is both highly practical as well as beautiful, and is now my main EDC. Very nice work!
I may write a more detailed review on my site, or even here when time allows, just to express why I feel so strongly about this product...
...but now I am off to teach a class...
yours,
Paul
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Ed -
Let me tell you I think the Persian has
<i>Cold Steel's </i> scimitar beat in the "looks" dept. - and I'm certain in
the "works" dept. ( as soon as I get my
hands on one <img src="wink.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle border=0>)
You did a great job - hopefully many more
here will see the fewer "whistles, bells & sirens" ( read : G-10, compression lock, etc. ) the better. <img src="smile.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle border=0>
AET
Some things are necessary evils, some things are more evil than necessary. John Le Carre
Let me tell you I think the Persian has
<i>Cold Steel's </i> scimitar beat in the "looks" dept. - and I'm certain in
the "works" dept. ( as soon as I get my
hands on one <img src="wink.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle border=0>)
You did a great job - hopefully many more
here will see the fewer "whistles, bells & sirens" ( read : G-10, compression lock, etc. ) the better. <img src="smile.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle border=0>
AET
Some things are necessary evils, some things are more evil than necessary. John Le Carre
Hey Ed, I enjoyed meeting you at 'Blade Show' up in Atlanta back in June though we didn't talk much I enjoyed showing the Tan FRN Spyderco Native and seeing your 'Damascus Folder'? I just remember it being a wavy blade with a lot of etching design done to it and I believe some type of bone or grooved handle. Can you tell us more about that knife? Maybe post a pic here of it? If not, I understand...I hope to come across a Persain soon though I much prefer Natives as Jeff Smith could tell yah. Thanks again for your support of Spyderco. I'd like to learn sometime from you how you come up with knife designs...I'm sorta looking into getting into knifemaking...though not too sure how much time and money I can invest as an amautuer. Okay, time to shut now...ha...take it easy! <img src="wink.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle border=0>
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Hi Kudzu74,
I remember meeting you in Atlanta. The knife I showed you I call the Moro Kris. Sal has asked me for ethnic designs, so this is what is happening on that front. The knife to my knowledge is in the pipeline, but I don't know if the blade can be ground by the subcontractor.
When I started making knives 14 years ago I wanted to build folders. I did fixed blades for several years refining my skills. I then got side tracked by forging and steel making. After 12 years I finally got around to building folders, mainly to be able to showcase the Mosaic Damascus Steel I was making and wanted to sell. I had to find a path through building a folder than I could understand and repeat and improve. My designs start with what do you want to cut, what do you want to do with the knife? I design a blade shape for that function, then I build the best handle I can to control that blade shape and nest into the handle nicely when closed. With the more knives I design the more I learn. I've only made about 40 folders total, but I have about 35 designs. Some 20 plus of those designs have a round hole in the blade. Sal gave me the opportunity to design for a good company and I try to give him a lot from which to choose. This is not an easy task as Spyderco has produced 80 plus different designs and rejected multiple of that number. Some knives have been in the design loop for quite a while waiting for the technology to produce them commercially. I really enjoy the challenge. I look at the distributor catalogs with dozens of thumbnails of pictures of most knives made then I try to make something that doesn't look like all the rest. There is a picture of the Moro Kris in Nov. Blade magazine.
I remember meeting you in Atlanta. The knife I showed you I call the Moro Kris. Sal has asked me for ethnic designs, so this is what is happening on that front. The knife to my knowledge is in the pipeline, but I don't know if the blade can be ground by the subcontractor.
When I started making knives 14 years ago I wanted to build folders. I did fixed blades for several years refining my skills. I then got side tracked by forging and steel making. After 12 years I finally got around to building folders, mainly to be able to showcase the Mosaic Damascus Steel I was making and wanted to sell. I had to find a path through building a folder than I could understand and repeat and improve. My designs start with what do you want to cut, what do you want to do with the knife? I design a blade shape for that function, then I build the best handle I can to control that blade shape and nest into the handle nicely when closed. With the more knives I design the more I learn. I've only made about 40 folders total, but I have about 35 designs. Some 20 plus of those designs have a round hole in the blade. Sal gave me the opportunity to design for a good company and I try to give him a lot from which to choose. This is not an easy task as Spyderco has produced 80 plus different designs and rejected multiple of that number. Some knives have been in the design loop for quite a while waiting for the technology to produce them commercially. I really enjoy the challenge. I look at the distributor catalogs with dozens of thumbnails of pictures of most knives made then I try to make something that doesn't look like all the rest. There is a picture of the Moro Kris in Nov. Blade magazine.
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Mr. Schempp,
Your C83 Persian design is beautiful, but it won't be in my collection until <img src="spyder.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle border=0> makes the clip moveable to the left-hand side. My daughter appears to be right-handed (she's 4 months young, so I'm just guessing here), so she's definitely going to have one.
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Your C83 Persian design is beautiful, but it won't be in my collection until <img src="spyder.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle border=0> makes the clip moveable to the left-hand side. My daughter appears to be right-handed (she's 4 months young, so I'm just guessing here), so she's definitely going to have one.
-Thom Brogan <a href="http://www.tntbrogan.com" target="_blank">Pictures</a> of our daughter, Cynthia
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Yep. I've heard some say that it's an art knife and that putting more holes in the handle would ruin its aesthetic, but I disagree. The steel is VG10, the handles are micarta, and it has a midlock on its spine. You can't make more of a user knife than that these days.
-Thom Brogan <a href="http://www.tntbrogan.com" target="_blank">Pictures</a> of our daughter, Cynthia
-Thom Brogan <a href="http://www.tntbrogan.com" target="_blank">Pictures</a> of our daughter, Cynthia
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