Factory Seconds at Arizona Custom Knives

[CaptWiggum]

Shame, shame. The agreement when you buy a factory second, is that you will not resell it. Someone broke their promise. Several factory seconds for sale at Arizona Custom Knives.

11/04/2022 Arizona Knives

[Mushroom]

There is no agreement to not resell a factory second. Someone could purchase their limit of seconds and resell every one of them if they wanted to. Which is exactly what some people do after the seconds sale.

As far as I know, there is an agreement with Op-Focus though that the knives purchased using the Opfocus discount will not be resold. I do not believe that agreement extends to the Op-Focus seconds sale since they’re not given any additional discounts, just exclusive access.

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On a less related note, I was under the impression that restricted knives such as autos and balisongs were not available at the Op-Focus seconds sale though. If I recall correctly, I asked about that on here after the most recent Op-Focus seconds sale and was told they’re not available during the sale. Could’ve just been a miscommunication when I asked in the past but I’d be curious to know where these Autonomy 2 seconds came from.

[vivi]

ACK is a good company. They clearly label anything that's used or factory 2nds. Nothing but good experiences dealing with them.

[Evil D]

2nds are flipped for profit literally the same day they're sold, just check eBay.

[razorburn]

Can you really blame anyone that's hard for Cash.

[WilliamMunny]

There is no agreement to not resell a factory second. Someone could purchase their limit of seconds and resell every one of them if they wanted to. Which is exactly what some people do after the seconds sale.

As far as I know, there is an agreement with Op-Focus though that the knives purchased using the Opfocus discount will not be resold. I do not believe that agreement extends to the Op-Focus seconds sale since they’re not given any additional discounts, just exclusive access.

———

On a less related note, I was under the impression that restricted knives such as autos and balisongs were not available at the Op-Focus seconds sale though. If I recall correctly, I asked about that on here after the most recent Op-Focus seconds sale and was told they’re not available during the sale. Could’ve just been a miscommunication when I asked in the past but I’d be curious to know where these Autonomy 2 seconds came from.

Is the Op-Focus seconds sale only in person or does it also happen online too?

[Evil D]

Can you really blame anyone that's hard for Cash.

I dunno man I try to not judge people but I also have had multiple jobs, sacrificed luxuries in my life and have done without in hard times. It never occurred to me to leech off of a hobby to make a living.

[WilliamMunny]

Can you really blame anyone that's hard for Cash.

I dunno man I try to not judge people but I also have had multiple jobs, sacrificed luxuries in my life and have done without in hard times. It never occurred to me to leech off of a hobby to make a living.

It’s a weird pet peeve of mine, resellers. Now I don’t mean people who buy something, it’s not for them, or even people who buy two, with intention of selling one to offset the cost.

The people who kill me are the ones buying a lot of a popular item with the sole intent of selling it to make money. Especially when it comes to toys on the holidays. For some reason it just really drives me crazy.

[Woodpuppy]

Can you really blame anyone that's hard for Cash.

I dunno man I try to not judge people but I also have had multiple jobs, sacrificed luxuries in my life and have done without in hard times. It never occurred to me to leech off of a hobby to make a living.

There’s a difference between vacuuming up all the seconds or sprints and exclusives with the sole intent to sell them for profit, vs. buy/try/sell or even liquidating parts of a collection to fund something else.

I’m in liquidation mode now to fund another piece of another hobby, one that’s more about experiences than about stuff. I’m selling off knives I’ve used and had for some time, or duplicate models in steels that I didn’t feel I needed to keep. By now I have a handle on the models and steels I “need” so everything else is going.

[standy99]

Thought the only rule was you can’t send them back for a refund or for warranty repairs…

“Something like that when they done the online factory sale a while back”

[JRinFL]

The other way to look at it is that provides a way for some us to get a Spyderco auto at a decent price. I don’t qualify for any Opfocus discounts.

From the regular nature of the drops, I sort of suspect it might be an official outlet for automatic seconds, but I’m probably wrong.

[nerdlock]

I really, really cannot remember getting a notice from Spyderco that I could never ever resell the factory seconds I got from them during the Great One and Only Online Seconds Sale.

[Evil D]

Can you really blame anyone that's hard for Cash.

I dunno man I try to not judge people but I also have had multiple jobs, sacrificed luxuries in my life and have done without in hard times. It never occurred to me to leech off of a hobby to make a living.

There’s a difference between vacuuming up all the seconds or sprints and exclusives with the sole intent to sell them for profit, vs. buy/try/sell or even liquidating parts of a collection to fund something else.

I’m in liquidation mode now to fund another piece of another hobby, one that’s more about experiences than about stuff. I’m selling off knives I’ve used and had for some time, or duplicate models in steels that I didn’t feel I needed to keep. By now I have a handle on the models and steels I “need” so everything else is going.

I'm not saying people shouldn't ever sell or even make a profit when they do, but it's hard for me to respect people who buy with the sole intent to resell and make a quick profit.

But, this topic tends to go south when I participate and I really don't have the energy for a debate about it (not saying with you personally just generally). I don't like it, other think it's ok. It'll never change so no sense in rehashing this one.

[Mushroom]

There is no agreement to not resell a factory second. Someone could purchase their limit of seconds and resell every one of them if they wanted to. Which is exactly what some people do after the seconds sale.

As far as I know, there is an agreement with Op-Focus though that the knives purchased using the Opfocus discount will not be resold. I do not believe that agreement extends to the Op-Focus seconds sale since they’re not given any additional discounts, just exclusive access.

———

On a less related note, I was under the impression that restricted knives such as autos and balisongs were not available at the Op-Focus seconds sale though. If I recall correctly, I asked about that on here after the most recent Op-Focus seconds sale and was told they’re not available during the sale. Could’ve just been a miscommunication when I asked in the past but I’d be curious to know where these Autonomy 2 seconds came from.

Is the Op-Focus seconds sale only in person or does it also happen online too?

In person only.

[yablanowitz]

Yep, in-person only, and no restricted (autos) are for sale at the SFO. As I understand it, autos are sold only through dealers, and are not available through the SFO at any time including the Seconds Sales.

Knives purchased with OpFocus discount are not to be resold. That discount is a very generous gift from Sal to those who have served to say "Thank you!" There is a special place in **** reserved for the people who would abuse that.

Earlier in the evolution of the Seconds Sale there were several store owners that would come early and load up all the pieces of a given model they could find to stock their stores. When purchase limits were instituted to fight that, they would still come in early and load up, then hang around all day waiting for the limit to be lifted so they could buy their hundreds of pieces for store stock. And since they had nothing else to do while they waited, they'd "horse trade" with other shoppers to get more of what they wanted in exchange for things they were holding but hadn't paid for yet. Now that the Spydercrew has that shut down, those people don't seem to be coming to the sales, or if they are they at least abide by the rules. I doubt that 25 or 50 pieces at a time would be worth the time for them.

[Woodpuppy]

Yikes. Glad Spydercrew put a stop to that.

[Danke]

OMG!

https://www.arizonacustomknives.com/products/1054530/

For the other stuff, looks like someone purged their collection/accumulation. Probably won't retire on the profits of consigning it at those prices.

[vivi]

ACK is a shop that sells knives on consignment. If they posted a seconds it's because someone has that seconds and asked ACK to sell it for them.

Very bizarre crusade when you understand what kind of shop ACK is.

They didn't buy the second with intent to resell, they are providing a service to someone like you or me that decided to sell a knife they own. The potential profit from reselling one Spyderco second is nothing compared to the multiple $1,000+ knives they stock.

I bought a Pacific Salt 1 from them last week. Great communication, fast shipping and the knife was precisely as described.

[rgc]

I have an account and a wish list with them . . . sometimes you can really get some good deals if you follow closely enough.

I have been tempted for a bit now to snatch up the Bradley Bowie they have, but, for some reason every time I get around to it something else catches my fancy.

[JRinFL]

ACK does consignment and direct sales from some vendors. That’s the only reason for my speculation that Spyderco might be using ACK as an outlet since they self-restrict auto sales so heavily.

FTR, ACK has been good to me three times so far.