Backlock is my favorite but the Millie is just an anomaly. I don’t like comp locks as I don’t like free swinging blades. Have you handled a Millie?Teddy0215 wrote: ↑Mon May 16, 2022 9:21 amI’ve never really been drawn to the Military. I don’t like tip down carry and I don’t like liner locks in general. Nothing against them, just not my jam.twinboysdad wrote: ↑Mon May 16, 2022 8:37 amIn the size range we are getting to, doesn’t the Military kind of eclipse both Shaman and Chief?
M4 Native Chief/M4 Shaman Comparisons and Contrasts
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I haven’t. No where around here has them in stores and I don’t want to to buy one and bother with selling it if I didn’t like it.twinboysdad wrote: ↑Mon May 16, 2022 11:10 amBacklock is my favorite but the Millie is just an anomaly. I don’t like comp locks as I don’t like free swinging blades. Have you handled a Millie?Teddy0215 wrote: ↑Mon May 16, 2022 9:21 amI’ve never really been drawn to the Military. I don’t like tip down carry and I don’t like liner locks in general. Nothing against them, just not my jam.twinboysdad wrote: ↑Mon May 16, 2022 8:37 amIn the size range we are getting to, doesn’t the Military kind of eclipse both Shaman and Chief?
Btw, I have twin girls. Crazy, but fun. The girls are 2.5 and big brother is 4.5.
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Well major props man, twins are hard. Mine are 14 now but birth- third grade shortened my life I am certain.Teddy0215 wrote: ↑Mon May 16, 2022 11:45 amI haven’t. No where around here has them in stores and I don’t want to to buy one and bother with selling it if I didn’t like it.twinboysdad wrote: ↑Mon May 16, 2022 11:10 amBacklock is my favorite but the Millie is just an anomaly. I don’t like comp locks as I don’t like free swinging blades. Have you handled a Millie?Teddy0215 wrote: ↑Mon May 16, 2022 9:21 amI’ve never really been drawn to the Military. I don’t like tip down carry and I don’t like liner locks in general. Nothing against them, just not my jam.twinboysdad wrote: ↑Mon May 16, 2022 8:37 amIn the size range we are getting to, doesn’t the Military kind of eclipse both Shaman and Chief?
Btw, I have twin girls. Crazy, but fun. The girls are 2.5 and big brother is 4.5.
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So, my ADHD is kicking in hard and I have too many knives waiting to be used. I’m not going to be able to make myself do this for 30 days.
I have realized in 5 days that I do love the Chief though. I’ll continue to update here with any interesting findings.
I have realized in 5 days that I do love the Chief though. I’ll continue to update here with any interesting findings.
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stick it out for a week, it's a nice enough period.
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As a heads-up the satin M4 Chief is back in stock at BHQ
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There was only one so it’s likely sold back out
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Some initial impressions switching to the Shaman for the last day and a half…
Doesn’t slice nearly as well as the Chief, but that was to be expected. I also think I prefer the feel of the Chief in my hand for a lot of my usual tasks. The Shaman definitely feels beefier when bearing down through push cuts. I could see it replacing a small fixed blade while camping and fishing.
Going to carry the Shaman again tomorrow, but I am missing the Chief today. Maybe I’ll carry both.
Doesn’t slice nearly as well as the Chief, but that was to be expected. I also think I prefer the feel of the Chief in my hand for a lot of my usual tasks. The Shaman definitely feels beefier when bearing down through push cuts. I could see it replacing a small fixed blade while camping and fishing.
Going to carry the Shaman again tomorrow, but I am missing the Chief today. Maybe I’ll carry both.
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Just found this nice thread (as I’m making a decision which sprint of those to buy too late and overpriced ). Any updates here? How both feel after all that time?
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After all this Chief love, may need to give this a try.
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The whole Native line is carved in glory and good taste. Good job Spyderco. I'd buy them all if I could.
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I like the Chief more than the Shaman for my daily uses at work. It’s much slicer and it just feels better in my hand overall. Seems counterintuitive based on the Shaman’s contoured scales. I really like the Shaman as well though and grab it when I feel like I’ll be doing more abusive tasks. It’s more like a beefed up PM2 to me.
I did some trading for a second Chief in Rex45, if that tells you anything.
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Cuscadi can make them for you.kennethsime wrote: ↑Fri May 13, 2022 10:05 pmI’d love a chief with contoured Micarta scales.
I almost bought the M4 Chief, but the fact that there are no aftermarket scales yet held me back.
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Maybe! I can’t find an example on their site. It seems like the liner less construction is hard to replicate in micarta.Sonorum wrote: ↑Sat Sep 24, 2022 5:25 amCuscadi can make them for you.kennethsime wrote: ↑Fri May 13, 2022 10:05 pmI’d love a chief with contoured Micarta scales.
I almost bought the M4 Chief, but the fact that there are no aftermarket scales yet held me back.
Unfortunately, or luckily for my wallet, the M4 Chief is OOS for now.
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Thank you!Teddy0215 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 24, 2022 4:17 amI like the Chief more than the Shaman for my daily uses at work. It’s much slicer and it just feels better in my hand overall. Seems counterintuitive based on the Shaman’s contoured scales. I really like the Shaman as well though and grab it when I feel like I’ll be doing more abusive tasks. It’s more like a beefed up PM2 to me.
I did some trading for a second Chief in Rex45, if that tells you anything.
Recent favourites: Massad Ayoob CPM CRU-WEAR PE & SE, Yojimbo 2, Lil' Temperance 3.
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I amTeddy0215 wrote: ↑Sun May 15, 2022 1:08 amYou’re a micarta addict!kennethsime wrote: ↑Fri May 13, 2022 10:05 pmI’d love a chief with contoured Micarta scales.
I almost bought the M4 Chief, but the fact that there are no aftermarket scales yet held me back.
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I have scales on order right now, shoot them an emailkennethsime wrote: ↑Sat Sep 24, 2022 9:27 amMaybe! I can’t find an example on their site. It seems like the liner less construction is hard to replicate in micarta.Sonorum wrote: ↑Sat Sep 24, 2022 5:25 amCuscadi can make them for you.kennethsime wrote: ↑Fri May 13, 2022 10:05 pmI’d love a chief with contoured Micarta scales.
I almost bought the M4 Chief, but the fact that there are no aftermarket scales yet held me back.
Unfortunately, or luckily for my wallet, the M4 Chief is OOS for now.
/ David
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Oh man, thanks for the heads up David!Sonorum wrote: ↑Sun Sep 25, 2022 11:58 amI have scales on order right now, shoot them an emailkennethsime wrote: ↑Sat Sep 24, 2022 9:27 amMaybe! I can’t find an example on their site. It seems like the liner less construction is hard to replicate in micarta.Sonorum wrote: ↑Sat Sep 24, 2022 5:25 amCuscadi can make them for you.kennethsime wrote: ↑Fri May 13, 2022 10:05 pmI’d love a chief with contoured Micarta scales.
I almost bought the M4 Chief, but the fact that there are no aftermarket scales yet held me back.
Unfortunately, or luckily for my wallet, the M4 Chief is OOS for now.
Definitely show us some pics when you get yours installed.
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